If i graduated with a Doctoral Degree in Arts...

[Dancing Fire]

should I expect people to address me as Dr. Dancing Fire?... or is the word "doctor" only for people graduated with a medical related degree?..

 

[Snicklefritz]

Yup! If you have a PhD, the title of Dr comes along with it

 

[smitcompton]

Hi,

Lawyers get a Dr. of Jurisprudence degree(JD). If you have it , you can use it, but some areas customarily just don't use the DR.


Annette

 

[marymm]

I know quite a few college/university professors with non-medical Ph.D degrees - I'd say it is 50/50 with half requesting the Dr. title and half preferring the Professor title.

From what I understand, the Ph.D. recipient is the one who decides whether he/she wishes to be addressed as Dr. in professional and/or social situations. If you are in doubt, and you know they have a Ph.D., I think etiquette says to go with Dr. and let the person advise you otherwise.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I have a PhD and darn well expect to be called "Dr."

 

[Dancing Fire]

I have a PhD and darn well expect to be called "Dr."

ok,from now on i call you Dr. Dreamer...

 

[Haven]

Do you want to know what traditional etiquette advises, or what people would do?

Traditional etiquette advises that MDs are the only doctors who are to be addressed as "Dr." socially. That being said, I'll call people whatever they want to be called.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Do you want to know what traditional etiquette advises, or what people would do?

Traditional etiquette advises that MDs are the only doctors who are to be addressed as "Dr." socially. That being said, I'll call people whatever they want to be called.

That's what I thought.

 

[LibbyLA]

Professionally, yes. Socially, no.

I've heard tell that in the Ivies and similar lofty educational institutions, it is assumed that all faculty have Ph.D.s and everyone is addressed as Mr. or Ms., but I have no personal experience with that.

liz

 

[justginger]

If (when?) I get my PhD, I definitely want my mail addressed as:

Dr. and Mr. Justginger.

The look on DH's face will be worth every minute of my thesis.

 

[Deactivated member 42515]

If (when?) I get my PhD, I definitely want my mail addressed as:

Dr. and Mr. Justginger.

The look on DH's face will be worth every minute of my thesis.

Hahaha it's soooo totally worth it just to see that!

 

[MissStepcut]

Hi,

Lawyers get a Dr. of Jurisprudence degree(JD). If you have it , you can use it, but some areas customarily just don't use the DR.


Annette

I have yet to ever meet a JD who goes by Dr.!

 

[mayerling]

A PhD entitles you to be called Dr. So does an MD. I don't know about other doctorates. Also, in the UK, Dr. is used for PhDs socially as well - not among a group of friends, but I'm addressed as doctor when I go to stores, banks, hospitals, etc.

Having said that, I've always found it weird that in the US professions such as physical therapist, osteopath, chiropractor, dentist, etc. also mean that people are addressed as Dr - this doesn't happen in the UK.

 

[chrono]

A PhD entitles you to be called Dr. So does an MD. I don't know about other doctorates. Also, in the UK, Dr. is used for PhDs socially as well - not among a group of friends, but I'm addressed as doctor when I go to stores, banks, hospitals, etc.

Having said that, I've always found it weird that in the US professions such as physical therapist, osteopath, chiropractor, dentist, etc. also mean that people are addressed as Dr - this doesn't happen in the UK.

+1. This is the same where I am from.

 

[partgypsy]

OK, I have a non medical Ph.D., and have many colleagues with non medical PhDs. If someone is a professor, they are referred to as "Professor Smith". Except in a joking manner, we don't go around calling each other Dr, just our name or when in writing "Jane Smith, PhD". If there is formal corresspondence it if typically addressed "Dr. Jane Smith" as a courtesy.

There may be some old school PhDs who like to be referred to as "Dr." but I don't see that as the norm.

 

[partgypsy]

OOPs I just realized there is a Jane Smith on the board. It is just my version of a female "John Smith" (and I like Dr. Who)

 

[Lulie]

Do you want to know what traditional etiquette advises, or what people would do?

Traditional etiquette advises that MDs are the only doctors who are to be addressed as "Dr." socially. That being said, I'll call people whatever they want to be called.

That advise has changed so I respectfully disagree. Anyone with a doctoral on 'anything' uses Dr. When teaching/researching on this part of the country.
Socially for the past 10 years or so, it has become common to see someone with any Ph.D. addressed/call as Dr., and as a consequence, deviation from convention has become acceptable. Again, it's probably a regional thing.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Hi,

Lawyers get a Dr. of Jurisprudence degree(JD). If you have it , you can use it, but some areas customarily just don't use the DR.


Annette

I have yet to ever meet a JD who goes by Dr.!

me neither,maybe in the UK?

 

[distracts]

Having said that, I've always found it weird that in the US professions such as physical therapist, osteopath, chiropractor, dentist, etc. also mean that people are addressed as Dr - this doesn't happen in the UK.

My veterinarian is a doctor too! Doctor Bunny Lady!

 

[Karl_K]

call everyone hey you... problem solved :}

 

[GemFever]

call everyone hey you... problem solved :}

 

[Deactivated member 42515]

call everyone hey you... problem solved :}

Hay is for horses, Karl

Or you could call people "sir"... I had a man call me that the other day. I guess I look like a dude?

 

[pregcurious]

A PhD entitles you to be called Dr. So does an MD. I don't know about other doctorates. Also, in the UK, Dr. is used for PhDs socially as well - not among a group of friends, but I'm addressed as doctor when I go to stores, banks, hospitals, etc.

Having said that, I've always found it weird that in the US professions such as physical therapist, osteopath, chiropractor, dentist, etc. also mean that people are addressed as Dr - this doesn't happen in the UK.

Many Americans tend to associate the word doctor with medical doctor, but the title of Dr. is for people with doctorates, or doctoral degrees (as opposed to bachelor or associate degrees). In the US there are doctoral degrees in osteopathy, dentistry, veterinary medicine and of course non-medical related degrees. The title Dr. should not be limited to just medical doctors who have a doctorate degree in _medicine_. I have a doctoral degree, but only use the title Dr. professionally. Otherwise, I use the title Ms.

DF, whatever is the norm in your field is what you should expect. If you are a professor, you can asked to be Dr. instead of Prof. In general, asking people to address you as doctor in any field, comes off as arrogant. I would never ask to be called Dr. in a social setting.

 

[Dancing Fire]

A PhD entitles you to be called Dr. So does an MD. I don't know about other doctorates. Also, in the UK, Dr. is used for PhDs socially as well - not among a group of friends, but I'm addressed as doctor when I go to stores, banks, hospitals, etc.

Having said that, I've always found it weird that in the US professions such as physical therapist, osteopath, chiropractor, dentist, etc. also mean that people are addressed as Dr - this doesn't happen in the UK.

Many Americans tend to associate the word doctor with medical doctor, but the title of Dr. is for people with doctorates, or doctoral degrees (as opposed to bachelor or associate degrees). In the US there are doctoral degrees in osteopathy, dentistry, veterinary medicine and of course non-medical related degrees. The title Dr. should not be limited to just medical doctors who have a doctorate degree in _medicine_. I have a doctoral degree, but only use the title Dr. professionally. Otherwise, I use the title Ms.

DF, whatever is the norm in your field is what you should expect. If you are a professor, you can asked to be Dr. instead of Prof. In general, asking people to address you as doctor in any field, comes off as arrogant. I would never ask to be called Dr. in a social setting.

I don't have a doctoral degree,just wondering... I barely made it through HS..

 

[Deactivated member 42515]

What the! This thread is irrelevant DF!

 

[Dreamer_D]

OK, I have a non medical Ph.D., and have many colleagues with non medical PhDs. If someone is a professor, they are referred to as "Professor Smith". Except in a joking manner, we don't go around calling each other Dr, just our name or when in writing "Jane Smith, PhD". If there is formal corresspondence it if typically addressed "Dr. Jane Smith" as a courtesy.

There may be some old school PhDs who like to be referred to as "Dr." but I don't see that as the norm.

This is true where I work too.

In actuality, I give the students the option to call me "Dr. Dreamer" or "Professor Dreamer," because I prefer that slight level of formality and I really hate being called "Mrs." or "Miss" in that setting. I don't use it with friends or colleagues or socially.

 

[mayerling]

A PhD entitles you to be called Dr. So does an MD. I don't know about other doctorates. Also, in the UK, Dr. is used for PhDs socially as well - not among a group of friends, but I'm addressed as doctor when I go to stores, banks, hospitals, etc.

Having said that, I've always found it weird that in the US professions such as physical therapist, osteopath, chiropractor, dentist, etc. also mean that people are addressed as Dr - this doesn't happen in the UK.

Many Americans tend to associate the word doctor with medical doctor, but the title of Dr. is for people with doctorates, or doctoral degrees (as opposed to bachelor or associate degrees). In the US there are doctoral degrees in osteopathy, dentistry, veterinary medicine and of course non-medical related degrees. The title Dr. should not be limited to just medical doctors who have a doctorate degree in _medicine_. I have a doctoral degree, but only use the title Dr. professionally. Otherwise, I use the title Ms.

DF, whatever is the norm in your field is what you should expect. If you are a professor, you can asked to be Dr. instead of Prof. In general, asking people to address you as doctor in any field, comes off as arrogant. I would never ask to be called Dr. in a social setting.

Are these professional doctorates? If so, they don't exist in the UK, as far as I know. For instance, a dentist has a first degree in dentistry, and as such would not be a doctor. If a physical therapist does a PhD - so basically research in physical therapy, they will be called Dr.

DF, JD does not exist in the UK. A law degree is an undergraduate degree or a master's degree. A doctorate in Law is acquired by doing a PhD, i.e. research, on a topic in law.

Also, in the UK, 'Professor' is only used for Full Professors. People who have not attained full professorship cannot be addressed as 'Professor'.

 

[wildcat03]

You can expect to be addressed as "Dr." in professional settings. If you ask to be called Dr. in social settings, people willt hink you're a douche.

I'm a physician and only use "Dr." at work.

One of the rudest encounters I've ever had was when a family member was screaming at me and I addressed her as "Ms." and she screamed "That's Dr. _____." I asked her if she was a physician. I was not being difficult, it's helpful to know if someone is a physician because it changes how I explain things to them. She shouted, "No, I have a PhD." I thought, but didn't say, "That's fine, but don't expect me to stand in a hospital and address you as doctor when you have a doctorate in education." Actually, in some states, it's a felony to identify yourself as title "Doctor" in a healthcare settings if you are not a physician.

 

[Haven]

Do you want to know what traditional etiquette advises, or what people would do?

Traditional etiquette advises that MDs are the only doctors who are to be addressed as "Dr." socially. That being said, I'll call people whatever they want to be called.

That advise has changed so I respectfully disagree. Anyone with a doctoral on 'anything' uses Dr. When teaching/researching on this part of the country.
Socially for the past 10 years or so, it has become common to see someone with any Ph.D. addressed/call as Dr., and as a consequence, deviation from convention has become acceptable. Again, it's probably a regional thing.

We aren't in disagreement. I shared what traditional etiquette advises, you shared what has become acceptable of late as a deviation from the traditional standard.

As I said, I'll call people whatever they prefer, of course. Doctor, Chief, Your Royal Highness, whatever they need to hear. In my experience the only non-MDs I know who have insisted on being addressed as Doctor socially have been PsyDs. It always makes me wonder if they have a professional org that tells everyone to do this or something.