I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed :)

[calibre]

So,

I found this diamond I really like
-Carat: 2.29
-Color: J
-Clarity: VS2
-Excellent Cut polish and symmetry (I am assuming that means triple ex as I've heard?)
-Fluorescence: faint
-Depth: 63%
-Table: 56%
-Crown angle: 36.5 degrees
-Pavilion Angle: 40.8 degrees

I watched this youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21v3jBtTEmM about diamonds similar and I am hoping this one will perform the same, though I would like some of your wonderful and sometimes harsh criticism

Here are the images from the diamond

Diamond: http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q683/Kohlmann_Carvell/6380428 Actual_zpsqfvpwrdz.jpg
Hearts: http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q683/Kohlmann_Carvell/6380428 Hearts_zps0iivyxpm.jpg
Arrows: http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q683/Kohlmann_Carvell/6380428 Arrows_zpssuypjxmd.jpg
ASET: http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q683/Kohlmann_Carvell/6380428 ASET_zpslqxjfuel.jpg
Ideal Scope: http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q683/Kohlmann_Carvell/6380428 Idealscope_zpsoxxmx3ec.jpg

 

[16ocean]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

frankly for me,
Cut wise:
I would not choose this stone bz is cut too deep.
Color wise for a ring J shows a slight tint for me.


This tends to be my cheat sheet for round brilliants.
depth - 60 - 62% - although my personal preference is to allow up to 62.4%
table - 54- 57% (can go up to 58 )
crown angle - 34- 35 degrees
pavilion angle - 40.6- 41 degrees
girdle - avoid extremes, look for thin to slightly thick, thin to medium etc
polish and symmetry - very good and above

note - with crown and pavilion angles at the shallower ends ( CA 34- PA 40.6) and steeper ( CA 35- PA 41) check to make sure these angles complement in that particular diamond - eyeballs, Idealscope, trusted vendor input - check as appropriate!

 

[pfunk]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

frankly for me,
Cut wise:
I would not choose this stone bz is cut too deep.
Color wise for a ring J shows a slight tint for me.


This tends to be my cheat sheet for round brilliants.
depth - 60 - 62% - although my personal preference is to allow up to 62.4%
table - 54- 57% (can go up to 58 )
crown angle - 34- 35 degrees
pavilion angle - 40.6- 41 degrees
girdle - avoid extremes, look for thin to slightly thick, thin to medium etc
polish and symmetry - very good and above

note - with crown and pavilion angles at the shallower ends ( CA 34- PA 40.6) and steeper ( CA 35- PA 41) check to make sure these angles complement in that particular diamond - eyeballs, Idealscope, trusted vendor input - check as appropriate!

I agree with this. I would pass.

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

frankly for me,
Cut wise:
I would not choose this stone bz is cut too deep.
Color wise for a ring J shows a slight tint for me.


This tends to be my cheat sheet for round brilliants.
depth - 60 - 62% - although my personal preference is to allow up to 62.4%
table - 54- 57% (can go up to 58 )
crown angle - 34- 35 degrees
pavilion angle - 40.6- 41 degrees
girdle - avoid extremes, look for thin to slightly thick, thin to medium etc
polish and symmetry - very good and above

note - with crown and pavilion angles at the shallower ends ( CA 34- PA 40.6) and steeper ( CA 35- PA 41) check to make sure these angles complement in that particular diamond - eyeballs, Idealscope, trusted vendor input - check as appropriate!

Okay! Thanks! All great info, I guess I oversaw the table depth because I didn't see much difference in the ideal scope. Also I am inquiring about the yellow tint as I'm seeing it a bit now too! Thank you!

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I should mention price is $12.9k. Which is why I was interested as I'm trying to stay under $13.5k. Can anyone recommend possibly a better 2ct plus stone in that budget?

Much appreciated!

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

Okay following above advice, I think I found some alternates and am now seeing that there is not a whole lot of difference from a 2-2.3 diamond in diameter (from what I have saved about 0.2mm difference at the most.)

Here are a few alternates I found, all under 2 on the HCA scale, which I feel may be better performers if I'm following advice correctly:

-2.08 HCA: 1.0
-https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R208-1LF7WV

-2.13 HCA: 0.9 sorry no pics, I know its a 59/59 diamond but I read the holloway rule on pavilion angle so I believe this one is an option.
-https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R213-4RW8CP

-2.04 HCA: 1.3
-https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R204-9XCM7N

-2.00 HCA: 1.8
-https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R200-DE28Y1

 

[JDDN]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

#2 diamond has strong blue fluorescence, so that may appear milky. Strong blue fluorescence is iffy as some love and others dislike, so I may avoid if you can't confirm it's NOT milky/oily and that she/you are into strong blue fluorescence.

#3 I can see a large inclusion on the crown. Ask if it's eye clean as I'm not sure how magnified the images are. Could possibly be hidden by a prong.

Hard to tell when we can't access the ASET and IS images!

#1 looks like there is some green on the crown on the ASET but it's so tiny I can't be sure.

If you can't verify how the strong blue fluorescence looks, I may avoid that one. I would probably avoid the SI1 stone since you have options that are cleaner. So that leaves #1 or #4!

Question: Is the tint of a J okay with you/or the person who will receive this stone? They look fairly yellow on the 360. A slightly smaller stone with a higher color could be an alternative if that's something you'd consider.

 

[16ocean]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I like JDDN's process of elimination.

So b/t #1 and #4.

It looks as if #4 has an inclusion right in the middle of the table and the ASET (is tiny) but looks different than the ASET's from other companies.

so
I would check w/ the vendor if stone #1 is eye clean (to your standards) and then have it sent to you to be sure you and your FF are ok w/ the J color in all angles and lighting.

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I think I agree, #1 appears best. Never considered those processes of elimination! Thanks!

In regards to the first 2.29 I posted, I've been emailing the salesman and he says the warmth is hardly noticeable only under a Loupe? Does that make sense? I thought color was color whether it's under 10x or not but I could be wrong!

 

[JDDN]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

That salesperson is trying very hard to get you to buy the diamond! Sounds like he's confusing inclusions with color. I think the enchanted diamond options are better than the initial one you posted.

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

That salesperson is trying very hard to get you to buy the diamond! Sounds like he's confusing inclusions with color. I think the enchanted diamond options are better than the initial one you posted.

Haha that's what I'm starting to think!

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I messaged David at good old gold regarding the diamonds posted in the video. He believes it should be very easy for me to get a similar diamond (2ct+) in setting with my total budget.

I've heard good things of good old gold, would this be the better route?

 

[pfunk]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I hear nothing but good things about Good Old Gold, and they seem immensely helpful at making sure you make a good purchase so I would not hesitate to buy from them. I purchased my diamond just a couple months ago from enchanted and ended up a very satisfied customer. Wouldn't hesitate to give them my business again either. They have different models though, with GOG dealing with in house inventory and enchanted selling from virtual inventory so they don't actually have the stones in house (most of the time anyway). GOG can therefore provide detailed info about the stone right away, while enchanted will have to go off notes from the supplier. GOG also has a buy back policy where they will buy back the diamond for 75% of what you paid, and has a trade up policy that allows you to upgrade diamonds as long as it is more expensive than your original stone. Enchanted diamonds, on the other hand, does not have a buyback policy (to my knowledge) and requires an upgrade diamond to be at least TWICE as expensive as the original. The virtual inventory and less aggressive upgrade and buyback policies, however, allow enchanted to sell diamonds for less money on the original purchase. You should weight all of this into your decision of where to buy. If upgrading or selling in the future is likely, then GOG has some attractive policies. If the diamond will be kept for the long haul, then Enchanted diamonds may be the more attractive option.

I purchased a diamond very similar to what you are looking at, and have been checking back periodically to see what has come up since I purchased. I will say that the first stone from enchanted (2.08 ct J) looks very well cut and is the first one that has came up since I purchased in mid February that looks really good to me. It also has all the images to show how well cut it is, which is a bonus because you often can't get that info easily unless you buy from somewhere that specializes in well cut superideals (GOG, Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, High Performance Diamonds, etc).

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I hear nothing but good things about Good Old Gold, and they seem immensely helpful at making sure you make a good purchase so I would not hesitate to buy from them. I purchased my diamond just a couple months ago from enchanted and ended up a very satisfied customer. Wouldn't hesitate to give them my business again either. They have different models though, with GOG dealing with in house inventory and enchanted selling from virtual inventory so they don't actually have the stones in house (most of the time anyway). GOG can therefore provide detailed info about the stone right away, while enchanted will have to go off notes from the supplier. GOG also has a buy back policy where they will buy back the diamond for 75% of what you paid, and has a trade up policy that allows you to upgrade diamonds as long as it is more expensive than your original stone. Enchanted diamonds, on the other hand, does not have a buyback policy (to my knowledge) and requires an upgrade diamond to be at least TWICE as expensive as the original. The virtual inventory and less aggressive upgrade and buyback policies, however, allow enchanted to sell diamonds for less money on the original purchase. You should weight all of this into your decision of where to buy. If upgrading or selling in the future is likely, then GOG has some attractive policies. If the diamond will be kept for the long haul, then Enchanted diamonds may be the more attractive option.

I purchased a diamond very similar to what you are looking at, and have been checking back periodically to see what has come up since I purchased. I will say that the first stone from enchanted (2.08 ct J) looks very well cut and is the first one that has came up since I purchased in mid February that looks really good to me. It also has all the images to show how well cut it is, which is a bonus because you often can't get that info easily unless you buy from somewhere that specializes in well cut superideals (GOG, Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, High Performance Diamonds, etc).

Thanks so much for the reply! Yeah it is a very nice stone, and the more I look at the original 2.29 I posted the more weary I am of the color, I was so unaware a GIA graded triple ex J could look so warm, then again for a 2.29 it is a bit reflected in the price. I ended up finding another at B2C that looks good and may be on par with the 2.08 I posted. Enchanted doesn't have a setting I like unfortunately which is a bit of a drawback. I did find a setting I really like at B2C and awaiting to see what GOG has in regards to petite pave.

Here is the other I found from B2C:

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-7176507-2.02-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

 

[yssie]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I hear nothing but good things about Good Old Gold, and they seem immensely helpful at making sure you make a good purchase so I would not hesitate to buy from them. I purchased my diamond just a couple months ago from enchanted and ended up a very satisfied customer. Wouldn't hesitate to give them my business again either. They have different models though, with GOG dealing with in house inventory and enchanted selling from virtual inventory so they don't actually have the stones in house (most of the time anyway). GOG can therefore provide detailed info about the stone right away, while enchanted will have to go off notes from the supplier. GOG also has a buy back policy where they will buy back the diamond for 75% of what you paid, and has a trade up policy that allows you to upgrade diamonds as long as it is more expensive than your original stone. Enchanted diamonds, on the other hand, does not have a buyback policy (to my knowledge) and requires an upgrade diamond to be at least TWICE as expensive as the original. The virtual inventory and less aggressive upgrade and buyback policies, however, allow enchanted to sell diamonds for less money on the original purchase. You should weight all of this into your decision of where to buy. If upgrading or selling in the future is likely, then GOG has some attractive policies. If the diamond will be kept for the long haul, then Enchanted diamonds may be the more attractive option.

Pfunk - this is an excellent summary of some of the pros and cons of buying from vendors espousing different business models

 

[yssie]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

Whoa... hold up. This ASET is nonsensical.



The mains of a modern RBC are always more shallow in angle than the lower girdle facets. Longer LGFs (ex. 80) will be shallower than shorter LGFS (ex. 70) - that's why you'll occasionally see someone say that longer LGFs are "saving" face-up light return in a marginally steep/deep stone.
Karl's article explains this, and its consequences, in detail: https://www.pricescope.com/journal/do_pavilion_mains_drive_light_return_modern_round_brilliant

This is an ASET scope - the scope these ASET photos are taken through. The green band sits below the red band, indicating light return from 0-45degrees from the horizontal. That photo was taken head on, the optical symmetry isn't particularly wonky, and based on the faceting I see no explanation for those green LGFs when the adjacent mains are red.



Can one of our board experts weigh in on this?

 

[pfunk]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I hear nothing but good things about Good Old Gold, and they seem immensely helpful at making sure you make a good purchase so I would not hesitate to buy from them. I purchased my diamond just a couple months ago from enchanted and ended up a very satisfied customer. Wouldn't hesitate to give them my business again either. They have different models though, with GOG dealing with in house inventory and enchanted selling from virtual inventory so they don't actually have the stones in house (most of the time anyway). GOG can therefore provide detailed info about the stone right away, while enchanted will have to go off notes from the supplier. GOG also has a buy back policy where they will buy back the diamond for 75% of what you paid, and has a trade up policy that allows you to upgrade diamonds as long as it is more expensive than your original stone. Enchanted diamonds, on the other hand, does not have a buyback policy (to my knowledge) and requires an upgrade diamond to be at least TWICE as expensive as the original. The virtual inventory and less aggressive upgrade and buyback policies, however, allow enchanted to sell diamonds for less money on the original purchase. You should weight all of this into your decision of where to buy. If upgrading or selling in the future is likely, then GOG has some attractive policies. If the diamond will be kept for the long haul, then Enchanted diamonds may be the more attractive option.

I purchased a diamond very similar to what you are looking at, and have been checking back periodically to see what has come up since I purchased. I will say that the first stone from enchanted (2.08 ct J) looks very well cut and is the first one that has came up since I purchased in mid February that looks really good to me. It also has all the images to show how well cut it is, which is a bonus because you often can't get that info easily unless you buy from somewhere that specializes in well cut superideals (GOG, Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, High Performance Diamonds, etc).

Thanks so much for the reply! Yeah it is a very nice stone, and the more I look at the original 2.29 I posted the more weary I am of the color, I was so unaware a GIA graded triple ex J could look so warm, then again for a 2.29 it is a bit reflected in the price. I ended up finding another at B2C that looks good and may be on par with the 2.08 I posted. Enchanted doesn't have a setting I like unfortunately which is a bit of a drawback. I did find a setting I really like at B2C and awaiting to see what GOG has in regards to petite pave.

Here is the other I found from B2C:

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-7176507-2.02-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

It is not cut as well as the one from Enchanted as it is a little deep and hiding weight. The strong fluoro may be helping the price too which is another reason it is cheaper, though you may actually like the fluorescence.

I purchased my diamond from Enchanted and the setting locally, so that is always an option as well. If you can, though, I agree that getting it all together from the same place is preferred.

 

[Rhino]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

Whoa... hold up. This ASET is nonsensical.



The mains of a modern RBC are always more shallow in angle than the lower girdle facets. Longer LGFs (ex. 80) will be shallower than shorter LGFS (ex. 70) - that's why you'll occasionally see someone say that longer LGFs are "saving" face-up light return in a marginally steep/deep stone.
Karl's article explains this, and its consequences, in detail: https://www.pricescope.com/journal/do_pavilion_mains_drive_light_return_modern_round_brilliant

This is an ASET scope - the scope these ASET photos are taken through. The green band sits below the red band, indicating light return from 0-45degrees from the horizontal. That photo was taken head on, the optical symmetry isn't particularly wonky, and based on the faceting I see no explanation for those green LGFs when the adjacent mains are red.



Can one of our board experts weigh in on this?

In typical round brilliant ideal cut diamonds the mains are generally going to be blue so long as the crown/pavilion angles are falling in that traditional "ideal" zone. In the diamond you are posting in that example it is likely the crown/pavilion combo is more on the steeper side (crown angles greater than 35 and/or pavilion angles greater than 41) because the pavilion mains are red. Being that the lower half angles are in fact steeper than the mains you are thus drawing in more reflections from the 0-45 degree region resulting in greens on some of the lower halves and will result in a visual difference a layman would be able to see.

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I hear nothing but good things about Good Old Gold, and they seem immensely helpful at making sure you make a good purchase so I would not hesitate to buy from them. I purchased my diamond just a couple months ago from enchanted and ended up a very satisfied customer. Wouldn't hesitate to give them my business again either. They have different models though, with GOG dealing with in house inventory and enchanted selling from virtual inventory so they don't actually have the stones in house (most of the time anyway). GOG can therefore provide detailed info about the stone right away, while enchanted will have to go off notes from the supplier. GOG also has a buy back policy where they will buy back the diamond for 75% of what you paid, and has a trade up policy that allows you to upgrade diamonds as long as it is more expensive than your original stone. Enchanted diamonds, on the other hand, does not have a buyback policy (to my knowledge) and requires an upgrade diamond to be at least TWICE as expensive as the original. The virtual inventory and less aggressive upgrade and buyback policies, however, allow enchanted to sell diamonds for less money on the original purchase. You should weight all of this into your decision of where to buy. If upgrading or selling in the future is likely, then GOG has some attractive policies. If the diamond will be kept for the long haul, then Enchanted diamonds may be the more attractive option.

I purchased a diamond very similar to what you are looking at, and have been checking back periodically to see what has come up since I purchased. I will say that the first stone from enchanted (2.08 ct J) looks very well cut and is the first one that has came up since I purchased in mid February that looks really good to me. It also has all the images to show how well cut it is, which is a bonus because you often can't get that info easily unless you buy from somewhere that specializes in well cut superideals (GOG, Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, High Performance Diamonds, etc).

Thanks so much for the reply! Yeah it is a very nice stone, and the more I look at the original 2.29 I posted the more weary I am of the color, I was so unaware a GIA graded triple ex J could look so warm, then again for a 2.29 it is a bit reflected in the price. I ended up finding another at B2C that looks good and may be on par with the 2.08 I posted. Enchanted doesn't have a setting I like unfortunately which is a bit of a drawback. I did find a setting I really like at B2C and awaiting to see what GOG has in regards to petite pave.

Here is the other I found from B2C:

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-7176507-2.02-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

It is not cut as well as the one from Enchanted as it is a little deep and hiding weight. The strong fluoro may be helping the price too which is another reason it is cheaper, though you may actually like the fluorescence.

I purchased my diamond from Enchanted and the setting locally, so that is always an option as well. If you can, though, I agree that getting it all together from the same place is preferred.

I see I'm starting to lean more towards the enchanted now as its in between all 3 in size and has the best cut, didn't realize how much depth was hurting that 2.02, it's below 8mm! can you tell me, how was negotiating? Any flexibility in their end? Mind if I see the stone you purchased?

 

[yssie]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

In typical round brilliant ideal cut diamonds the mains are generally going to be blue so long as the crown/pavilion angles are falling in that traditional "ideal" zone. In the diamond you are posting in that example it is likely the crown/pavilion combo is more on the steeper side (crown angles greater than 35 and/or pavilion angles greater than 41) because the pavilion mains are red. Being that the lower half angles are in fact steeper than the mains you are thus drawing in more reflections from the 0-45 degree region resulting in greens on some of the lower halves and will result in a visual difference a layman would be able to see.

Good grief. Yes, of course - I somehow managed to waltz my thoughts into precisely the opposite pattern of pav reflection - despite posting the scope pic myself. Thanks Rhino... this is a total tail-between-the-legs-and-walk-away moment...

 

[pfunk]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

Honestly I didn't even try to negotiate the price. I felt it was a fair asking price and it was listed on another PS vendor for quite a bit more. It was far cheaper than lower quality stones at local retail, and I had been searching for quite awhile and didn't want to beat around the bush too much. The diameter of mine faces up a little small too, and is cut like a 1.96 carat and not a 2.01 as it is hiding weight in the slightly thick girdle. Problem is, you won't find many diamonds cut from 1.90 to 2.0 carats and in order to get a superideal over 8mm I would have had to pay a healthy premium. I was also happy with mine because it is a stong J that my appraiser called an I color which did not surprise me as I closely compared it to another AGS ideal stone that was graded I and they looked the same in every lighting I compared them. I don't think you'll get them to come down much in price if at all, as I think their margins on diamonds are pretty slim. I found them to be very price competitive. It doesn't hurt to ask though! This is the link, though I am not sure if it will still work or not.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R201-CLBVHD

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

Honestly I didn't even try to negotiate the price. I felt it was a fair asking price and it was listed on another PS vendor for quite a bit more. It was far cheaper than lower quality stones at local retail, and I had been searching for quite awhile and didn't want to beat around the bush too much. The diameter of mine faces up a little small too, and is cut like a 1.96 carat and not a 2.01 as it is hiding weight in the slightly thick girdle. Problem is, you won't find many diamonds cut from 1.90 to 2.0 carats and in order to get a superideal over 8mm I would have had to pay a healthy premium. I was also happy with mine because it is a stong J that my appraiser called an I color which did not surprise me as I closely compared it to another AGS ideal stone that was graded I and they looked the same in every lighting I compared them. I don't think you'll get them to come down much in price if at all, as I think their margins on diamonds are pretty slim. I found them to be very price competitive. It doesn't hurt to ask though! This is the link, though I am not sure if it will still work or not.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R201-CLBVHD

Pfunk you have been absolute amazing help, I think I'm going a different route than enchanted but I do appreciate all the info and help you've given me regarding them

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

Okay, this is the final time I'm bumping this thread. We went and looked at diamonds that were "in house" graded (I'm sure much less strict than GIA) and we found we weren't super picky nor color sensitive. I've found one last diamond on my solo quest id like to run by, and unless it's horrendous I think I may go this route as she seems to like slightly bigger sizes! If it is horrible and I should run then I'm just going to GOG as I need to prepare for our time and Paris and am reducing my diamond search time frame :p so my last request is this and I thank you all so much for all your help and replies

From what I can tell the indented is helping this diamond get into my budget but it's very minimal and could easily be tucked behind a prong. HCA is returning a 1.7

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I was concerned about the crystal in the arrow but it has been confirmed to be eye clean

 

[pfunk]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I am not sure if by indented you mean the natural, but I doubt that is having an impact on the price. The strong fluoro on the other hand could definitely be bringing the price down. You can see the obvious areas of leakage, but whether you would be sensitive to that in real life I don't know. If she is okay with sacrificing on cut to get the extra size then go for it. I would personally stay a little smaller to get a better cut, but I'm not you. You'll need to weigh what is most important to you. If you're in a time crunch and don't have time to have this sent to you for personal inspection, I'd pass on it. Sounds like you are getting close to being in a time crunch and if that's the case and you are buying sight unseen, I'd be buying something I know is cut really well to take any chance of being underwhelmed out of the equation.

 

[calibre]

Re: I think I found the one, maybe a wee bit of help needed

I am not sure if by indented you mean the natural, but I doubt that is having an impact on the price. The strong fluoro on the other hand could definitely be bringing the price down. You can see the obvious areas of leakage, but whether you would be sensitive to that in real life I don't know. If she is okay with sacrificing on cut to get the extra size then go for it. I would personally stay a little smaller to get a better cut, but I'm not you. You'll need to weigh what is most important to you. If you're in a time crunch and don't have time to have this sent to you for personal inspection, I'd pass on it. Sounds like you are getting close to being in a time crunch and if that's the case and you are buying sight unseen, I'd be buying something I know is cut really well to take any chance of being underwhelmed out of the equation.

Yes I asked about fluour and was told it caused no cloudy or milky effect. And well I have 5 weeks so not too bad of a crunch pfunk your reply has truly helped. I will attach an older poor diamond I was offered and she loved it and was so upset when I passed it up (thank god I did). But I think these past few weeks it's been to much what I want from the diamond and not her. Of all the very similar stones I've viewed, she seems to be drawn towards the slightly larger stones. She's not near as in depth as I am, well she pretends she understands aset and I think I should lean slightly more towards carat. The subtle differences would more than likely be unnoticeable to us in all the stones I've posted. I think she's slightly less concerned about top tier cut because her eyes aren't that good. I think so long as it's flashes she will love the stone. I'm much more of a "hobbyist" and she is not so much, so I get very in depth to a point past she is not worried about. I guess one step leads to another, from looking at local jewelers, then to online, then to forums then to becoming a cut snob (don't worry it's a good thing in my opinion). But I'm at my typical indecisive crossroads where I am simply stuck. So I guess my lenience should be to what she thinks is slightly better, not me. I recently watched GOG's video comparing diamond cuts along side their aset's and my current selection is all so similar it'll be unnoticeable to me. I would like to thank you so much pfunk, when you stated what you would do, it let me know I need to do what's best for my situation. Maybe in the future when we're out of college and gets lasik like she's always wanted, we'll up her to a superior ideal h&a

Oh and as promised, this was one of the first diamonds I found and she wanted, it's bad. So I'd say with all my current selection she'll be very impressed :p