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So, I''ve already bought my wife an ''A Cut Above,'' 1 carat princess stone from Whiteflash. This ring is an upgrade because I had no money when we got married. She has no idea I''ve already gotten the diamond but we went out yesterday to look at settings (had to make it look like I was just curious). I did this because I tried to find a setting on my own but I just wasn''t sure if she would like any of them. I had to get her opinion. Since the setting is all I need, I thought, this will make it much easier! Wrong!!!!!!!!!!! I made a huge mistake and went to Tiffany''s with her. Next thing I know, she''s telling me, "Oooooo, I would be so happy if you got me a ring from Tiffany''s. Even if it''s not a one carat, those took my breath away." Now I feel like my AGS 000 stone is crap! I''m going to end up spending $8000 on the ring but I feel like she''s just going to think that I should have spent that money at Tiffany''s and gotten her a ring for under a carat. But, learning all I did about diamonds, I know my stone is superior...right? It just doesn''t feel that way now. Later on, she tried to reassure me that she would be happy with whatever I get her. But, she was so happy after leaving the Tiffany''s store. I''m so freakin'' depressed. Why do women like Tiffany''s so much!!!!? Should I send my stone back to Whiteflash? I only have one day left on the return period. What to do.
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Date: 9/10/2007 10:00:25 AM
Author:surgeon
So, I''ve already bought my wife an ''A Cut Above,'' 1 carat princess stone from Whiteflash. This ring is an upgrade because I had no money when we got married. She has no idea I''ve already gotten the diamond but we went out yesterday to look at settings (had to make it look like I was just curious). I did this because I tried to find a setting on my own but I just wasn''t sure if she would like any of them. I had to get her opinion. Since the setting is all I need, I thought, this will make it much easier! Wrong!!!!!!!!!!! I made a huge mistake and went to Tiffany''s with her. Next thing I know, she''s telling me, ''Oooooo, I would be so happy if you got me a ring from Tiffany''s. Even if it''s not a one carat, those took my breath away.'' Now I feel like my AGS 000 stone is crap! I''m going to end up spending $8000 on the ring but I feel like she''s just going to think that I should have spent that money at Tiffany''s and gotten her a ring for under a carat. But, learning all I did about diamonds, I know my stone is superior...right? It just doesn''t feel that way now. Later on, she tried to reassure me that she would be happy with whatever I get her. But, she was so happy after leaving the Tiffany''s store. I''m so freakin'' depressed. Why do women like Tiffany''s so much!!!!? Should I send my stone back to Whiteflash? I only have one day left on the return period. What to do.
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Was she drooling over Princess shapes or rounds? If she was loving the rounds then I might be inclined to go with an ACA round rather than a Princess, her enthusiasm may not have been about Tiffany, but about their solitaire styles - can you fill us in a bit more?
 
Date: 9/10/2007 10:00:25 AM
Author:surgeon
So, I''ve already bought my wife an ''A Cut Above,'' 1 carat princess stone from Whiteflash. This ring is an upgrade because I had no money when we got married. She has no idea I''ve already gotten the diamond but we went out yesterday to look at settings (had to make it look like I was just curious). I did this because I tried to find a setting on my own but I just wasn''t sure if she would like any of them. I had to get her opinion. Since the setting is all I need, I thought, this will make it much easier! Wrong!!!!!!!!!!! I made a huge mistake and went to Tiffany''s with her. Next thing I know, she''s telling me, ''Oooooo, I would be so happy if you got me a ring from Tiffany''s. Even if it''s not a one carat, those took my breath away.'' Now I feel like my AGS 000 stone is crap! I''m going to end up spending $8000 on the ring but I feel like she''s just going to think that I should have spent that money at Tiffany''s and gotten her a ring for under a carat. But, learning all I did about diamonds, I know my stone is superior...right? It just doesn''t feel that way now. Later on, she tried to reassure me that she would be happy with whatever I get her. But, she was so happy after leaving the Tiffany''s store. I''m so freakin'' depressed. Why do women like Tiffany''s so much!!!!? Should I send my stone back to Whiteflash? I only have one day left on the return period. What to do.
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Honestly? I have no idea. I don''t get the whole namebrandstorething.

I don''t know what to tell you, other than I KNOW the stone you got her is killer, and I seriously doubt anything at Tiff''s would beat it.

I guess the question is, do you think she really MEANT it when she said she would be happy with whatever you got her? Was she just seduced by the sparklies themselves? (in which case she will love the stone you got her), or, is it the NAME??
 
tiffany does not sell princess cuts.
 
Date: 9/10/2007 10:12:18 AM
Author: rocks
tiffany does not sell princess cuts.
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Thanks Rocks, I didn't know that. Well maybe it is the round in the classic solitaire setting she likes, in which case WF can do similar, you could perhaps consider changing the Princess to a round ACA if you think that might be best Surgeon.

ETA - looks like they do after all!!!
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Date: 9/10/2007 10:00:25 AM
Author:surgeon
So, I''ve already bought my wife an ''A Cut Above,'' 1 carat princess stone from Whiteflash. This ring is an upgrade because I had no money when we got married. She has no idea I''ve already gotten the diamond but we went out yesterday to look at settings (had to make it look like I was just curious). I did this because I tried to find a setting on my own but I just wasn''t sure if she would like any of them. I had to get her opinion. Since the setting is all I need, I thought, this will make it much easier! Wrong!!!!!!!!!!! I made a huge mistake and went to Tiffany''s with her. Next thing I know, she''s telling me, ''Oooooo, I would be so happy if you got me a ring from Tiffany''s. Even if it''s not a one carat, those took my breath away.'' Now I feel like my AGS 000 stone is crap! I''m going to end up spending $8000 on the ring but I feel like she''s just going to think that I should have spent that money at Tiffany''s and gotten her a ring for under a carat. But, learning all I did about diamonds, I know my stone is superior...right? It just doesn''t feel that way now. Later on, she tried to reassure me that she would be happy with whatever I get her. But, she was so happy after leaving the Tiffany''s store. I''m so freakin'' depressed. Why do women like Tiffany''s so much!!!!? Should I send my stone back to Whiteflash? I only have one day left on the return period. What to do.
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I had a similar problem with my gf. Women are suckers for marketing and the emotions that come with a certain brand name due to marketing
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. But the solution to this is simple:

All you have to do now is start reciting all the disadvantages of buying from Tiffany, and dispelling the image of the brand she has in her head. E.g. you might like to tell her that if you bought from Tiff, you wouldn''t get a chance to choose a diamond with killer specs and it will be up to luck of the draw. And dont forget to mention the 40% premium, and maybe point her to some of the complaint threads on PS about shoddy setting workmanship from Tiffs.

If your propaganda mission is successful, she''ll see all brand name chain stores for what they are. Then knock her out with the super-ideal ACA with obviously superior stats, tightness and optical symmetry (because you were able to cherry pick your diamonds, unlike shopping at Tiff)
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Hope that helps
 
i''ve been corrected. apparently they have started to sell them. i''ve only seen them in their "important" selections, not the mass market material.
 
I''m not that familiar with Tiffany''s, but couldn''t you just get the stone that you bought at Whiteflash set there? It''s the best of both worlds, the better stone and the setting with the Tiffany''s name on it. She''d never know.
 
Lorelei, she''s dead set on the princess cuts so I know I''ve already bought the right shape. And, if Tiffany''s doesn''t sell princess cuts, I don''t know what I was looking at for 20 minutes yesterday.
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The salesman also referred to them as princess cuts.

Ellen, I really think she meant it. I honestly think she was seduced by the sparkles. It just doesn''t help that she already loves tiffany''s and already owns a couple of pieces of jewelry from them. Yes, she loves the name.

I think the problem is partly me. I wanted the presentation of this ring to by PERFECT. But, now I think that in the back of my mind I''m going to be thinking, "she doesn''t like it because it''s not from Tiffany''s" when I present it to her.
 
Sorry rocks, I didn''t see your post until after I posted mine.
 
Date: 9/10/2007 10:24:46 AM
Author: surgeon
Ellen, I really think she meant it. I honestly think she was seduced by the sparkles. It just doesn''t help that she already loves tiffany''s and already owns a couple of pieces of jewelry from them. Yes, she loves the name.

I think the problem is partly me. I wanted the presentation of this ring to by PERFECT. But, now I think that in the back of my mind I''m going to be thinking, ''she doesn''t like it because it''s not from Tiffany''s'' when I present it to her.
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Well, gee, maybe go ahead and keep the stone and show her Tiff''s isn''t the only name brand going on. I mean, you DID get her a name brand stone...

I''m not familiar with their policies, would they set your stone in one of their setting'' as Stephanie suggested? That would be a good solution!
 
Ellen, I called them about a month ago to ask them and they said no. They only set Tiffany diamonds. Yes, that would have been a good solution.
 
By the way, Echelon, your post made me laugh. Thanks, I needed that!
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Hi! I used to be just like your wife...I actually dreamed that I''d get a princess cut engagement ring (from Tiffany''s no less). Then, I found pricescope, and realized that I LOVE round brilliants more and that green box was nice to have and flaunt, but a beautiful stone was what people would be looking at, not that little green box.

This may be decieving, but maybe you can buy a small pendant from Tiffany''s and use the green box to put the ring in. Then after a few weeks (or days) of her loving the ring, you can tell her you did not get the ring from there and she''ll see that she loves the ring and the man that gave it to her more than that silly box!
 
Does it have to be a surprise? I was just wondering if it would spoil things very much if you told her you had got this ( SUPERB) diamond and it's weight etc, if she would like it or for you to send it back and get her to pick out a Tiffany ring. It would be a no brainer for me to choose the WF diamond, but your wife may feel differently, that way you will both be happy in the long run as she will be wearing what she wants and you will feel your money is well spent.

I hear you about wanting to make the ring presentation perfect, but it might be worth considering spilling the beans to get it exactly right in the long run, well it has for me anyway and my Hubby!
 
Date: 9/10/2007 10:41:31 AM
Author: mamalala
Hi! I used to be just like your wife...I actually dreamed that I'd get a princess cut engagement ring (from Tiffany's no less). Then, I found pricescope, and realized that I LOVE round brilliants more and that green box was nice to have and flaunt, but a beautiful stone was what people would be looking at, not that little green box.

This may be decieving, but maybe you can buy a small pendant from Tiffany's and use the green box to put the ring in. Then after a few weeks (or days) of her loving the ring, you can tell her you did not get the ring from there and she'll see that she loves the ring and the man that gave it to her more than that silly box!
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I personally wouldn't do this. I understand the ultimate goal, but I just wouldn't do it.


Surgeon, you say she already has a couple pieces from Tiff's. Does she own any OTHER nice pieces, not from there?
 
mamalala, I just don''t think I could ever do that. I, like Ellen, also understand the point but it seems very deceptive to me. Plus, imagine the hurt she''ll feel when she tells all of her friends it''s from tiffany''s, only to later find out that it''s not.

Lorelei, yes it has to be a surprise. She has expressed on multiple occasions that she doesn''t want to know anything about it. In fact, I know exactly when I''m doing it. We''re going on vacation soon and I''m giving it to her on the first night that we''re there, on the beach, during sunset.

Ellen, she doesn''t really have any other nice pieces. Tiffany''s seems to be the best quality jewelry that she owns. She has a charm bracelet and a silver ring from there.
 
Tough dilemma... I know I''d rather have the wf diamond for sure, as would many ppl on this board, but I''m not your wife!

If it were me, I''d give the WF ring, and tell her all the things that make it special.... tell her about picking it out, about all the research you did, about the AGS certification, about how you especially picked the diamond and setting separately and had them put together to make a ring unique for her... I think that will blow her away! And, you can tell her that this ring is far and away superior to what you could buy at Tiff for the same price.
 
I agree with ellen and DO NOT use a fake Tiffanys box. I think if you are a person that does not look at jewelery all the time- the quality and whole atmosphere at tiffanys is appealing. There are other less fancy jewelery stores at the mall (sorry if I offend anyone) like Kay jewelers and I think most women if they had to choose would take Tiffanys over Kays, or Costco, etc.

You KNOW she loves princess cut and you own one of the nicest ones you can get! i hope you paid particular attention to what tiffany SETTING she seemed to love most. you can have something made with your ACA that is just as nice as tiffanys.

Then- when you present it... you can explain this ring was CUSTOM made just for her. You should go the extra mile and have something special engraved on the inside of the band- really personalize it. the stone you have purchased from WF must be larger and brighter than what you can get at Tiffanys for the same price -just due to that blue box mark up! Most women will appreciate getting a LARGER diamond than they originally thought their man was willing to spend- you look like a champ!
 
If time runs out on your decision...maybe the wedding band can come from Tiffany''s? And every Christmas and Birthday gift...like forever?? So instead of one blue box you will shower her with an avalanche of them? (there are affordable things there...well, within reason.) Sorry, I know that is a lame idea...I just hope you can find serenity in your decision.

You got her the best stone you could find. And it wasn''t from a brick and mortar...yes, to some women they that Tiffany''s store uses gold bricks and platinum mortar. WF offers the best stones over any B&M. Period.

Before PS, I though all diamonds were the same. I mean I thought a 1 carat stone measured exactly what another one did. That is how they called it one carat. I knew the colors were different. But that is about all I knew. Is it possible that your girl is the same as I?

You have the luxury of the knowing as much as you can from your experience here on PS and then the purchase and consult from WF. You now know there is more to the measurement of a diamond...more than just a color...more importantly the cut...and not just any cut sitting on blue velvet..but an AGS 000. The sparkle of that stone will knock any pedigree out of her thoughts.

Yes, you are a knucklehead for going into Tiffany''s!! But I am sure you will be redeemed once she sees your Cut ABOVE princess. Rely on your instincts for this decision. You thought enough about the decision to buy...you aren''t second guessing that. Lets face it...You already pulled the trigger...now ride the bullet. An AGS000 is a magnificant bullet.

DKS
 
Well, after thinking about this, here''s my suggestion. I would go ahead and give her the ring you intended to. I would then explain that you''d 1. already purchased it, and 2. KNEW that a better diamond was not going to be found at Tiff''s, and your goal was to ultimately get her the BEST DIAMOND you could. That you had done your homework, and felt this was it.

Then I would tell her, there will be other gifts along the way, and you''re sure there could be one from Tiff''s if her heart is still set on it.

This way, she will know just how much thought you put into this. That you wanted the best for her and you felt you had it. I think she will fall in love with this stone (how could she not?), but, she can still have a Tiff''s piece down the road. win/win?
 
lol Didn''t see the previous responses, but it seems a lot of us agree!
 
I agree with the Tiffany wedding band idea- that way you can go together to the store and pick out what will look good with her ring. i am sure the sales people will be impressed with her stone and that will make he feel great! I was not sure about my ACA stone until I brought into Tiffanys to compare. My diamond in the same lighting next to theirs looked amazing!
 
I originally wanted Tiffany''s, but a week after getting my engagement ring (we picked out an awesome stone) I went into tiffanys and it sparkled more than anything in their case)!

Stick with what you have and if you are really concerned, by one of there Gorgeous celebration rings to match!
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Once she see''s that ACA Tiffany''s will be far from her mind!
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The problem is the one day on the return period ...

If you do present it BEFORE the return period ends then you could say "Babe, I wanted to get you the prettiest Princess cut in the world & I researched it and found this ... I bought it BEFORE we went to Tiffany''s & before I saw your heart set on it. If you want to trade this OVER 1ct stone for an under 1ct ______(whatever weight) Tiffany ring I''ll understand."

But, oy, no return period left! Whydddya wait so LONG???
 
i like deco's suggestion, any way you can show her the stone today and give her the choice?

ETA: and do you really have enough time to send back the WF stone if she chooses Tiffany's..does it have to be mailed back postmarked with tomorrow's date, or in their hands by tomorrow? if it's the latter, no way registared mail will get it there in time .
 
Date: 9/10/2007 11:00:06 AM
Author: surgeon
mamalala, I just don't think I could ever do that. I, like Ellen, also understand the point but it seems very deceptive to me. Plus, imagine the hurt she'll feel when she tells all of her friends it's from tiffany's, only to later find out that it's not.

Lorelei, yes it has to be a surprise. She has expressed on multiple occasions that she doesn't want to know anything about it. In fact, I know exactly when I'm doing it. We're going on vacation soon and I'm giving it to her on the first night that we're there, on the beach, during sunset.

Ellen, she doesn't really have any other nice pieces. Tiffany's seems to be the best quality jewelry that she owns. She has a charm bracelet and a silver ring from there.
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It seems he has it all planned out and wants it to be a surprise.
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Despite the surprise element, I would tell her that you researched princess cut stones and found the very best one for her, but it was not at Tiff's. You could return it and get a smaller princess from Tiff's...what would she prefer? She will be wearing it and should have the diamond of her dreams. She may need some information, that you already have, about choosing a diamond. If she still wants the blue box, then so be it
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I don't know if I've got in my reply before the return period but I have to go against the tide here.... if she is SO taken with the name Tiffany then do you really want ot have to work so hard to convince her to like your ring?

I don't get it, everyone here for engagement rings always says 'Listen to your gf, get what SHE wants' even if it is from Tiffs. Why is this so different?

By all means try the education path, but if she doesn't want to know anything about the ring, that might not work. It might really hurt, but I would return it, try the education path and then if it works, get her another ACA.

No matter how unreasonable it is to us, or hard to understand, the emotion she associates with the name might outweigh all the extra beauty and size of the ACA. Remember she won't have them side-by-side to see how much nicer the WF stone is.

Just my .02c Good luck in whatever you do!
 
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