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Hey everyone,


I''ve been reading and re-reading this website for about a week now and I''ve looked all over the net for the Perfect engagement ring. I know exactly the ring and stye I want I just need help picking out actual quality. I found this one over at another website and I know it has problems just by the price.....I would like to be able to spend $6000 Canadian total for everything. Here is what I am looking for can somone point me in the right direction????? I greatly appreciate any help.

Thanks Rampy



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Check out this website:

www.hpdiamonds.com

Their princess cut selection is to die for. Also, the vendor name is Wink Jones and you cannot find more honest vendor than he is. If you like a stone, email him (his information is available on that website) and he can make a video of that diamond for you.

Enjoy the selection process and good luck!!!
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The other vendors that carry ideal cut princess stones and provide pictures are Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash. They don''t have much listed at the moment, but you could call and ask what they may be getting in.
 
Date: 4/27/2009 12:13:24 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
The other vendors that carry ideal cut princess stones and provide pictures are Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash. They don''t have much listed at the moment, but you could call and ask what they may be getting in.
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Ditto my esteemed friend DS! Give them a call and see what they can do.
 
O.K. Thanks for the help so far.....So for my next question.....Can I get a nice engagement ring for $6000 Canadian ???
Would it be a problem if I made my ideal engagement ring on say blue nile and showed it here so I could get your opinions??? Not for suggestions in looks but for help in quality. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks again

Rampy
 
That is just under $5,000 in the US, so I would say yes. Just shop around. You will probably not find an AGS0 1 ct diamond for that price, but you could get a .8ct or so H&A AGS0 and a nice setting online. You can contact vendors like Good Old Gold and White Flash directly to ask for help. They will both have very high quality diamonds - the ACA from WF are their flagship stone. I don't think GOG has a branded name for their stones, but they have some of the best stone documentation on the internet. I think GOG is located in NY and WF is in TX so if you live near them, you could go check it out in person.
 
What about a website called gemstone king?? Anyone heard bad or good about these folks? Thanks for the reply about the Good Old Gold.
 
Whoa! Swingirl that is exactly the type of diamond I am looking for....now is this a qualtiy stone though??? They all look so beautiful great on-line.....Like it''s a J colour, am I going to notice any yellowish tinting, also are the blemishes very noticable just by looking at a ring like this???

Thanks so much!!!

I am trying to get on Blue Nikle here now to show you the type of ring I Built to get everyones reviews but I am currently in a hotel room on wireless and I think they have a security setting on there website so standby!!! and if anyone lse would like to add more keep it up.

Rampy
 
Date: 4/27/2009 10:15:41 PM
Author: rampy
Whoa! Swingirl that is exactly the type of diamond I am looking for....now is this a qualtiy stone though??? They all look so beautiful great on-line.....Like it's a J colour, am I going to notice any yellowish tinting, also are the blemishes very noticable just by looking at a ring like this???

Thanks so much!!!

I am trying to get on Blue Nikle here now to show you the type of ring I Built to get everyones reviews but I am currently in a hotel room on wireless and I think they have a security setting on there website so standby!!! and if anyone lse would like to add more keep it up.

Rampy
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GOG hand picks their stones and the one I suggested is a "signature" stone which means it gets their highest rating. They are a very highly regarded vendor. It's lower in color but very close to 1 ct so it is affordable. The inclusions on a VS2 are going to be pretty small. GOG shows you exactly where they are in the 2 b/w photos. J will probably show a hint of warmth, some people are okay with it, others are not. You'd need to go smaller in size to get higher. Lots of ladies prefer sacrificing color for size. It's all personal preference. But the lower colors aren't as noticeable when the cut is good.
 
Date: 4/27/2009 10:18:57 PM
Author: swingirl

Date: 4/27/2009 10:15:41 PM
Author: rampy
Whoa! Swingirl that is exactly the type of diamond I am looking for....now is this a qualtiy stone though??? They all look so beautiful great on-line.....Like it''s a J colour, am I going to notice any yellowish tinting, also are the blemishes very noticable just by looking at a ring like this???

Thanks so much!!!

I am trying to get on Blue Nikle here now to show you the type of ring I Built to get everyones reviews but I am currently in a hotel room on wireless and I think they have a security setting on there website so standby!!! and if anyone lse would like to add more keep it up.

Rampy
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GOG hand picks their stones and the one I suggested is a ''signature'' stone which means it gets their highest rating. They are a very highly regarded vendor. It''s lower in color but very close to 1 ct so it is affordable. The inclusions on a VS2 are going to be pretty small. GOG shows you exactly where they are in the 2 b/w photos. J will probably show a hint of warmth, some people are okay with it, others are not. You''d need to go smaller in size to get higher. Lots of ladies prefer sacrificing color for size. It''s all personal preference. But the lower colors aren''t as noticeable when the cut is good.
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Hi Swinggirl,
Could you let me know how to know a stone (RB) is a signature diamond in GOG website? Thanks!!!! It is for my future reference.
 
Date: 4/27/2009 10:31:41 PM
Author: joelly
Date: 4/27/2009 10:18:57 PM
Author: swingirl
Date: 4/27/2009 10:15:41 PM
Author: rampy
Whoa! Swingirl that is exactly the type of diamond I am looking for....now is this a qualtiy stone though??? They all look so beautiful great on-line.....Like it's a J colour, am I going to notice any yellowish tinting, also are the blemishes very noticable just by looking at a ring like this???
Thanks so much!!!
I am trying to get on Blue Nikle here now to show you the type of ring I Built to get everyones reviews but I am currently in a hotel room on wireless and I think they have a security setting on there website so standby!!! and if anyone lse would like to add more keep it up.
Rampy
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GOG hand picks their stones and the one I suggested is a 'signature' stone which means it gets their highest rating. They are a very highly regarded vendor. It's lower in color but very close to 1 ct so it is affordable. The inclusions on a VS2 are going to be pretty small. GOG shows you exactly where they are in the 2 b/w photos. J will probably show a hint of warmth, some people are okay with it, others are not. You'd need to go smaller in size to get higher. Lots of ladies prefer sacrificing color for size. It's all personal preference. But the lower colors aren't as noticeable when the cut is good.
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Hi Swinggirl,
Could you let me know how to know a stone (RB) is a signature diamond in GOG website? Thanks!!!! It is for my future reference.
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GOG hand picks most of their stones. They call their princess picks "Signature Princess Cut" and they could be AGS or GIA. It's just their own terminology. I don't think they use "Signature" for RB. They refer to RB's as "Hearts & Arrows" if it falls into that category.
 
Date: 4/26/2009 10:24:25 PM
Author:rampy

Hey everyone,



I''ve been reading and re-reading this website for about a week now and I''ve looked all over the net for the Perfect engagement ring. I know exactly the ring and stye I want I just need help picking out actual quality. I found this one over at another website and I know it has problems just by the price.....I would like to be able to spend $6000 Canadian total for everything. Here is what I am looking for can somone point me in the right direction????? I greatly appreciate any help.

Thanks Rampy


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Hi Rampy,

Check out this link: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/crafted-by-infinity-diamond-e-ring-from-summa-jewelers.113791/

The diamond in that link is an infinity princess cut diamond. It rocks!!!
 
We're an overly helpful bunch, we can't help but suggest.
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I LOVE the GOG stone swingirl linked you to. http://shop.goodoldgold.com/index.cfm/a/catalog.prodshow/vid/46622/catid/170 I prefer this setting though, because it will make the stone REALLY pop and stand out, whereas in a 1 carat (5.5 mm) princess I personally feel that settings like the X prong make them look smaller and overpower them. I had a 5.8mm square stone in one of those and it was just overwelmed.

I don't know if this one would be eyeclean (or even mindclean for you) but if you want high color, then there is this one as well. http://www.hpdiamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=454

But I think this one is the most balanced I was able to find: http://www.hpdiamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=141 It's a little smaller than the other two, but it's a balance of color/clarity/size. It will probably be the most 'mindclean' of the bunch as it's not likely to have visible color or inclusions. And it too is an ideal cut. Wink (owner of HPD) will be able to get you a channel set X-prong like the one you want-- Ingwar, Unique Settings etc will have that style if you are set on it. This one would also be a nice balance:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3779/ and it is also .9 carats, though it faces up a little smaller than the H.
 
O.K. everyone what are your opinions on these diamonds, this is the first one.

http://www.bluenile.ca/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-or-less-very-good-cut-e-colour-si1-clarity_LD01006450?tempcurr=CAD&rf=pd

this is the second.

http://www.bluenile.ca/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-f-colour-si1-clarity_LD01447968?tempcurr=CAD&rf=pd

this is the third with the band that I like as well.

http://www.bluenile.ca/design.jsp?filter_id=1

Whats everyone think?

Do I have the right eye for the diamonds or am I picking out crap? What are some of the negatives for each? Also does anyone have anything to say about the complete ring setup I have chosen? Thanks again all so much for the help this is a great site I can`t even begin to tell you how happy I am that Ì found it.

I hope to buy soon!!!

Rampy
 
We really can't tell much for princess cuts from Blue Nile because they don't supply ASET & IdealScope images, which are critical for judging. You really can't make a judgement call based on numbers alone. The AGA has a guideline chart that can help to eliminate certain combinations. I'll see if I can find a link for it.

Whiteflash, Good Old Gold and High Performance Diamonds post ASET images on their stones and James Allen can at least provide a IS image. If you want to go with BN, that is fine, they have a good return policy, but you will get a lot more information from other vendors.

EDT: Here is a link to the chart http://diamonds.pricescope.com/fnc1.asp If you can find an AGS0 princess, which may fall outside of the ideal chart ranges, you will surely have a good performing stone, but every princess has its own "personality" due to number of facets and how the angles work together. Once again, however, you will need pictures and images to see.
 
Date: 4/28/2009 12:14:36 PM
Author: jet2ks
We really can''t tell much for princess cuts from Blue Nile because they don''t supply ASET & IdealScope images, which are critical for judging. You really can''t make a judgement call based on numbers alone. The AGA has a guideline chart that can help to eliminate certain combinations. I''ll see if I can find a link for it.

Whiteflash, Good Old Gold and High Performance Diamonds post ASET images on their stones and James Allen can at least provide a IS image. If you want to go with BN, that is fine, they have a good return policy, but you will get a lot more information from other vendors.

EDT: Here is a link to the chart http://diamonds.pricescope.com/fnc1.asp If you can find an AGS0 princess, which may fall outside of the ideal chart ranges, you will surely have a good performing stone, but every princess has its own ''personality'' due to number of facets and how the angles work together. Once again, however, you will need pictures and images to see.
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Ditto Jet with his spiffy new avatar!
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So going ahead with this purchase would not be a wise investment then? Well this is getting to be the hardest thing i have ever done, I will call and see if they can send me some images of the diamond? Whats everyone think of the complete ring I have put together?

Rampy
 
Date: 4/28/2009 12:38:45 PM
Author: rampy
So going ahead with this purchase would not be a wise investment then? Well this is getting to be the hardest thing i have ever done, I will call and see if they can send me some images of the diamond? Whats everyone think of the complete ring I have put together?

Rampy
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They will not be able to supply images, as they are a drop ship vendor and do not have the diamond on hand. As far as the ring goes, the link you posted leads to a search screen, can you find the setting again and post a link to that?

Off topic: Hey, Lorelei, it''s now riding season.
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I love my dog, but it was time for a change and this seemed appropriate.
 
Date: 4/28/2009 12:38:45 PM
Author: rampy
So going ahead with this purchase would not be a wise investment then? Well this is getting to be the hardest thing i have ever done, I will call and see if they can send me some images of the diamond? Whats everyone think of the complete ring I have put together?


Rampy
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Blue Nile chooses not to provide the kind of information pre-purchase that makes it possible for you to know you are getting a well-cut stone. They will tell you the shape, color, clarity, and size, but will not let you "see" in any way the actual stone you are going to buy. They (Blue Nile) never actually handle the stones so they can't provide you the pictures even if they wanted to. If you want a spectacularly cut diamond (which is pretty much everything of what determines how much it sparkles) and insist on getting it from Blue Nile, the best thing to do is to order, say, 10 of them, and return 9 (and maybe even all 10 if you were unlucky).

With the other vendors that are more favored here in Pricescope land, they will provide you with detailed pictures that will show you how the diamond actually "performs" (as in, gathers and reflects light). So that's why people keep showing you and suggesting the diamonds from the other sites. I took a look at that diamond from GOG that was posted and am quite jealous. It's stunning. And as others have said you *may* see some tinting if you manage to look past the sparkles of the diamond, but getting past the sparkles will be a formidable task and something I promise neither her nor her friends will ever do. WF is also great and will educate you and let you know everything you need to know about *that* *particular* *diamond* so that you can know you're making the right choice.

Blue Nile's business model just does not include providing specifics about a diamond's performance to the customer.

Hope that helps...

(Edited for grammar. Twice. Ooops.)
 
BN will not be able to send you any images.
 
Date: 4/28/2009 12:50:59 PM
Author: jet2ks


Date: 4/28/2009 12:38:45 PM
Author: rampy
So going ahead with this purchase would not be a wise investment then? Well this is getting to be the hardest thing i have ever done, I will call and see if they can send me some images of the diamond? Whats everyone think of the complete ring I have put together?

Rampy
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They will not be able to supply images, as they are a drop ship vendor and do not have the diamond on hand. As far as the ring goes, the link you posted leads to a search screen, can you find the setting again and post a link to that?

Off topic: Hey, Lorelei, it's now riding season.
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I love my dog, but it was time for a change and this seemed appropriate.
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Way kewl! What is that movie Easy Rider??
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Rampy, I wouldn't bother contacting Blue Nile concerning any images, they don't provide them regrettably.
 
O.K. how about jamesallen is this a reputable site. I have a phote request in now on a diamond, here are the specs of the build I just made and I really like. Fire away!!!!

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/settings-with-sidestones/ring/item_58-883_design.asp?cid=58&module=diamond&item=1093565


Rampy
 
Here is a pic that they sent me...within an hour. What do you think??

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I'd pass on that one, rampy. The girdle is listed as extremely thin to very thin and could be prone to chipping as a result.

James Allen is a good vendor. If they have a stone that everything else checks out, they will get IS images. While not quite as good as ASET, an IS still helps see light performance.

EDT: I looked at the diamonds that swingirl and Gypsy linked. Is there a reason you don't like those? I thought the GOG stone that swing linked looked really nice. The ones Gypsy found were also good choices. For the money, though, that .97 is a real winner!
 
Although I am disapointed I am happy to know before I wasted my money
I''ll be back with more.....
 
Can I use the holloway cut adviser for a princess cut ring???
 
Date: 4/28/2009 3:38:56 PM
Author: rampy
Can I use the holloway cut adviser for a princess cut ring???
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HCA only works with rounds.
 
Date: 4/28/2009 3:41:07 PM
Author: jet2ks

Date: 4/28/2009 3:38:56 PM
Author: rampy
Can I use the holloway cut adviser for a princess cut ring???
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HCA only works with rounds.
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Ditto Jetskis.
 
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