I know it''s just numbers but give me some opinions anyway...

[lovelylulu]

Shape Emerald

Carat Weight 1.54

Length-to-Width 8.78 x 5.38 x 3.46

Depth 64.3

Table 65

Girdle MD

Culet S

Polish EX

Symmetry VG

Clarity Grade VVS1

Color Grade H

Fluorescence NON

Price $8200 (but can probably get it for a little less)

This is the stone that the vendor won''t show me pictures of...

 

[Demelza]

It looks promising to me, but again, hard to tell much from the info provided. Too bad you can't get a picture!! It's going to be a slightly longer stone. Is that the look you're going for? My stone has a ratio of 1.5:1 which is just a tad long for my taste. I wish it were a bit less rectangular. My stone is also an H (GIA) and I don't see any color in it whatsoever. Good luck on your search!

ETA Seems like a reasonable price, too.

 

[Shay37]

LL, I would love to help you. I just don''t have any idea how. I really only know about rounds because they are my favorite. I''m sorry I am such a goober.

shay

 

[jaz464]

What you have looks good (do you have crown height) but I think step cuts really need to be seen

Oh, I think the shape is perfect

 

[lovelylulu]

I had emailed the vendor again saying that if he didn''t have pictures perhaps he did have the crown height, but he was not priviledged to that information either saying:

" I do not have the crown height or pavilion angles for you. When GIA grades diamonds, they do not mention anything about the crown height or pavilion angles unless they are out of the normal range. The diamond you selected does not have any notes on the GIA report, so you can rest assured that the crown height and pavilion angles are not out of the ordinary."

hmmmm.

i do like a longer rectangular shape -- that is actually what drew me to the stone in the first place, but without having a bit more info and without being able to know what the "H" color looks like, that little lady might have to stay put...

 

[jaz464]

Now, I'm sure I know which vendor you are talking about

I bought my diamond from a vendor who advertised that he could get in any diamond that another online vendor advertised and could beat the price too. Have you considered asking someone else to get the diamond in for you?

 

[Kaleigh]

Maybe windowshopper can help, she got a very nice EC from DCD/James Allen. I know nothing about EC''s sorry.

 

[windowshopper]

yes you at least need to know crown height--if that is 10% or higher --ideally about 14% --then it is very likely a winner and i would get it in to look at..............

 

[Kaleigh]

I am assuming this vendor would have to call in this stone for you right?? So why not have another PS vendor do the same for you, one that is willing to get you that all important crown height, etc...???

 

[LadyluvsLuxury]

I agree with everyone else, ECs are very hard to gauge, if not truly impossible to guage with such limited info. It does not seem as if this vendor is even willing to assist in providing the proper information. It seems that the stone is not in their possession so I would definitely contact another vendor willing to provide you with the information you are requestiing.

 

[windowshopper]

Date: 11/3/2005 8:38:03 PM
Author: lovelylulu
I had emailed the vendor again saying that if he didn''t have pictures perhaps he did have the crown height, but he was not priviledged to that information either saying:

'' I do not have the crown height or pavilion angles for you. When GIA grades diamonds, they do not mention anything about the crown height or pavilion angles unless they are out of the normal range. The diamond you selected does not have any notes on the GIA report, so you can rest assured that the crown height and pavilion angles are not out of the ordinary.''

hmmmm.

i do like a longer rectangular shape -- that is actually what drew me to the stone in the first place, but without having a bit more info and without being able to know what the ''H'' color looks like, that little lady might have to stay put...

the comment about the crown height and pavilion angles not being out of the ordinary is ludicrous...............GIA didnt comment on my last Ec with a depth of 78%------------now lets see , is that something GIA should comment on???????????? is it out of the ordinary? who decides? is a 78% depth a good thing? i believe we all would agree NO

 

[Kaleigh]

I am dying to know who this vendor is .

 

[LadyluvsLuxury]

Date: 11/3/2005 9:35:08 PM
Author: kaleigh
I am dying to know who this vendor is .

DITTO!

 

[belle]

the search brings up diamond.com. it doesn''t seem to be a virtual stone.

 

[belle]

Date: 11/3/2005 8:38:03 PM
Author: lovelylulu
I had emailed the vendor again saying that if he didn''t have pictures perhaps he did have the crown height, but he was not priviledged to that information either saying:

'' I do not have the crown height or pavilion angles for you. When GIA grades diamonds, they do not mention anything about the crown height or pavilion angles unless they are out of the normal range. The diamond you selected does not have any notes on the GIA report, so you can rest assured that the crown height and pavilion angles are not out of the ordinary.''

hmmmm.

i do like a longer rectangular shape -- that is actually what drew me to the stone in the first place, but without having a bit more info and without being able to know what the ''H'' color looks like, that little lady might have to stay put...

i just read this.
his answer is yet again absurd. MOVE ON.

 

[windowshopper]

i''ve compared this to stone''s specs to similar pricescope stones and the dimension are quite large in comparison to equal carat weight stones.......i fear it might be very flat

 

[lovelylulu]

Shopper you are probably right, but since we''ll never get to see this we will never know. it was diamond.com -- and i don''t think any level of relationship would have led to any more information...

windowshopper: in looking to maximize spread -- does that often lead to a flat, boring stone??

 

[windowshopper]

Date: 11/4/2005 11:57:30 AM
Author: lovelylulu
Shopper you are probably right, but since we''ll never get to see this we will never know. it was diamond.com -- and i don''t think any level of relationship would have led to any more information...

windowshopper: in looking to maximize spread -- does that often lead to a flat, boring stone??

well darn that diamond.com.........you know i dont know re your question. a shallower doesnt mean it will be flat and boring necessarily. i think it just has to be the right combination of factors. If your goal is size which is the norm ...........i would only look at stones with a depth of 63 or less------then see what the other factors are. you need a crown of at least 9% to give the stone stone some oomph. i will search myself

 

[windowshopper]

check out this james allen stone.........maybe worth an inquiry

Item Number: 7628356
Shape: Emerald
Carat weight: 1.52
Cut: Premium
Color: H
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA

Depth: 65.8%
Table: 64%
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.64*5.70*3.75
Ratio: 1.34

 

[windowshopper]

this one from Union Diamond is a little longer but looks promising..........a longer stone even if skinnier can look much bigger on the hand with the right mounting

Diamond Information: Diamond Details:
Stock Number 13644
Certificate: EGL
Shape: Emerald
Cut: Select Ideal™
Carat: 1.50
Color: H
Clarity: VS2
Regular Price: $7041
Wire Transfer Price: $6836

Diamond Proportions:
Measurements: 8.03-5.63-3.7
Length to Width: 1.43
Depth Percentage: 65.7 %
Table Percentage: 63 %
Girdle: TN P
Culet: None (Pointed)
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: None (Inert)
Special Notes:

 

[lovelylulu]

Window: ignore my PM -- I found this

I''m going to do a little more investigating! exciting

 

[lovelylulu]

I like the second one on paper -- though i'm still unsure how "colored" an H is and i'd have to see the inclusions for a VS2.

my budget can likely go up to around $8500