I Know I Have DOCD But.........

[Rod]

Hey all,

As some of you saw, last week I finally had my ring resized and I am really happy I did. My ring is custom made, semi-tension mount platinum with a 1.12 carat center and two .3 carat sides bezel set. When I originally received the ring the center stone was ever so slightly crooked, but it was not loose and only I (the person who gives Anal new meaning) could have ever noticed the slight crooked slant. Now, almost a year later, the platinumsmith must have had to remove the center stone to size my ring and when it was put back, he corrected the slight crooked angle and the stone is now set completely level. Actually, the table seems just a tad elevated from the original placement.

So, here's my question. How is it possible that my stone looks better? I know it's the same stone. I louped it. While it's moved in the setting, it is my beautiful 60/60 stone, but it's somehow different in a good way. I see the patterns better. It looks better in sunlight (not that it didn't look fine in direct sunlight to begin with). But in moving the tilt and in elevating the stone just a bit in the setting, there is some change and I don't understand what could cause this observation? Now, I'm even happier with my stone, but I don't understand what made it better?

So, Belle, Storm, Alj, Julie, Ellen or any other more scientific PS'ers...........Have I lost my DOCD aflicted mind, or could changing the tilt and height of the diamond in my setting somehow change the apparent visual characteristics of the stone??????

 

[Mara]

it''s tension set right rod? could it be that the higher elevation is letting more light to the stone? when we had greg''s tension set ring made, the first one was set lower in the setting, but when bruce boone redid it, he moved it up more and we both noticed that the stone seemed bigger, brighter and we just chalked it up to being ''more visible'' rather than lower in the setting. i know that people say that tension or bezel setting or whatever should not affect a well-cut stone but i definitely think that greg''s tension set stone shows MORE of all the good stuff that is going on in it than in my more typical girlie ring setting. not that mine doesn''t show fabulously, but his just seems like you see more of it all just going on...maybe it''s how you can see the stone from more angles, who knows.

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 3:20:43 PM
Author: Mara
it''s tension set right rod? could it be that the higher elevation is letting more light to the stone? when we had greg''s tension set ring made, the first one was set lower in the setting, but when bruce boone redid it, he moved it up more and we both noticed that the stone seemed bigger, brighter and we just chalked it up to being ''more visible'' rather than lower in the setting. i know that people say that tension or bezel setting or whatever should not affect a well-cut stone but i definitely think that greg''s tension set stone shows MORE of all the good stuff that is going on in it than in my more typical girlie ring setting. not that mine doesn''t show fabulously, but his just seems like you see more of it all just going on...maybe it''s how you can see the stone from more angles, who knows.

In essence it is tension, even though there''s a bridge under the stone. But, it without question looks better after being moved in the setting compared to when I first got it. It''s interesting to see that Greg''s stone became brighter after his tension ring was remade and the stone was moved up a bit. It would support what I''m seeing.

As always, thanks Mara!!!

 

[belle]

if they raised it in a tension setting perhaps more light is getting to the crown, which could make the largest difference. also, leveling the diamond would be the best way to maximize the contrast effects in normal viewing circumstances and with good optical symmetry, that leveling might be enhancing the patterning you see. finally, all these things may be enhanced by the 'mind clean' you're feeling by having the issues addressed.

it sounds like you are really enjoying your diamond rod. that's the way it should be!

eta: i see mara already addressed this with real life examples while i was slow posting.

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 3:24:58 PM
Author: belle
if they raised it in a tension setting perhaps more light is getting to the crown, which could make the largest difference. also, leveling the diamond would be the best way to maximize the contrast effects in normal viewing circumstances and with good optical symmetry, that leveling might be enhancing the patterning you see. finally, all these things may be enhanced by the 'mind clean' you're feeling by having the issues addressed.

it sounds like you are really enjoying your diamond rod. that's the way it should be!

Thansk Belle and I do really enjoy my pet rock a lot!! And I think the fact that the crown is receiving more light, which would agree with my visiual assessment that the stone is brighter. Whatever it is, I'm certainly pleased!!!

 

[lili]

I''m no expert, but I think it is more a concept of one-point perspective.
When the diamond is set higher up, it is closer to you.
So it looks bigger relative to your finger.

 

[Mara]

oh so true re the leveling of the stone making the symmetrical pattern more visible. i think if couldn''t see my pattern very well it would drive me nuts cuz i would know it was there!!

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 3:26:43 PM
Author: lili
I''m no expert, but I think it is more a concept of one-point perspective.
When the diamond is set higher up, it is closer to you.
So it looks bigger relative to your finger.

Actually the stone doesn''t look bigger. It just looks brighter and the patterns are more easily discernable. But thanks for your comments

 

[strmrdr]

a good cleaning might have made the biggest difference.
Wait a month or 2 and see if it goes back to looking like it did.

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 3:51:15 PM
Author: strmrdr
a good cleaning might have made the biggest difference.
Wait a month or 2 and see if it goes back to looking like it did.

Thanks Storm, but you if you've read many of my posts, you'll note that I clean my ring EVERY night and I have the JewelJet Steamer that is used at least once a week, (typically every Friday night). When I took my ring in for resizing, they actually accused me of never wearing my ring, because:

1. It was cleaner than any ring a customer had ever brought in
2. I am super duper careful with my ring and after almost a year there were barely any scratches on the band at all.

But, I will look at it over time and see if it returns to it's previous appearance (at least in my mind).

 

[Sundial]

Sounds like we need to see some new pictures Rod!

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 4:36:31 PM
Author: Sundial
Sounds like we need to see some new pictures Rod!

Hey Sundial..........I''ve got this great digital SLR, with Macro capabilities and I still haven''t figured out how to take a decent picture that even remotely shows the beauty of this carbon fossil?? I will take some more pics and post them soon.

Thanks

 

[lili]

Date: 8/22/2006 3:32:35 PM
Author: Rod
Actually the stone doesn''t look bigger. It just looks brighter and the patterns are more easily discernable. But thanks for your comments

Ooops, please excuse me. Don''t know what I was reading.

By the way, how much did you size down your ring?
You are so lucky to be experiencing finger lipo
The ring size reduction should make your diamond look a lot bigger, no?

Can''t wait to see the new pix.

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 4:57:47 PM
Author: lili

Date: 8/22/2006 3:32:35 PM
Author: Rod
Actually the stone doesn''t look bigger. It just looks brighter and the patterns are more easily discernable. But thanks for your comments

Ooops, please excuse me. Don''t know what I was reading.

By the way, how much did you size down your ring?
You are so lucky to be experiencing finger lipo
The ring size reduction should make your diamond look a lot bigger, no?

Can''t wait to see the new pix.

Thanks Lili.......I actually began a program I call "Rebuild Rod" almost a year ago. I''ve lost 50 pounds on the scale, but more importantly, I''ve lost significantly more body fat. My BFI has gone from nearly 30% to below 17%. I work out at the gym 5 days a week for over 2 hours. I run (last night 4 nonstop miles). And I skate 8 miles at a time. My ring size went from 10 1/2 to 9 1/4. I doubt the ring size did anything. The resizing affected the bottom half, not the top half where the stones are set. Again, the stone doesn''t look bigger, just brighter and more defined.

I''ll take pics soon.

 

[kcoursolle]

Hmmm, interesting. When I first read this thread I immediately thought what storm did...but then I saw that you clean your rings all the time. The others could be on to something that more light is getting in somehow. Either way, what a wonderful way to re-love your rings again!

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 5:25:22 PM
Author: kcoursolle
Hmmm, interesting. When I first read this thread I immediately thought what storm did...but then I saw that you clean your rings all the time. The others could be on to something that more light is getting in somehow. Either way, what a wonderful way to re-love your rings again!

I''m afraid I''m beyond Anal when it comes to keeping my ring clean. I even buy shirts with the express interest of ensuring they are suitable ring cleaning options......LOL. I am so religious about cleaning my ring that it can''t be because they just cleaned it. Plus, after almost a week, it''s still brighter and it would have likely gotten dirty enough by now to be less bright and less defined. I have to believe the additional light entering the crown must be why it''s light''s went up a notch. Still as you said, it''s a wonderful way to re-love my ring all over again. I am a lucky guy. I really am!!

 

[lili]

Date: 8/22/2006 5:15:47 PM
Author: Rod

Date: 8/22/2006 4:57:47 PM
Author: lili

Date: 8/22/2006 3:32:35 PM
Author: Rod
Actually the stone doesn''t look bigger. It just looks brighter and the patterns are more easily discernable. But thanks for your comments

Ooops, please excuse me. Don''t know what I was reading.

By the way, how much did you size down your ring?
You are so lucky to be experiencing finger lipo
The ring size reduction should make your diamond look a lot bigger, no?

Can''t wait to see the new pix.

Thanks Lili.......I actually began a program I call ''Rebuild Rod'' almost a year ago. I''ve lost 50 pounds on the scale, but more importantly, I''ve lost significantly more body fat. My BFI has gone from nearly 30% to below 17%. I work out at the gym 5 days a week for over 2 hours. I run (last night 4 nonstop miles). And I skate 8 miles at a time. My ring size went from 10 1/2 to 9 1/4. I doubt the ring size did anything. The resizing affected the bottom half, not the top half where the stones are set. Again, the stone doesn''t look bigger, just brighter and more defined.

I''ll take pics soon.

Rod,

Wow, congrats on accomplishing so much in your program. It is really quite a feat in reducing almost half your body fat index.
What is your ultimate goal? How much more lbs to shed?
You stamina must have increased drastically.
I tired after WALKING a mile

Anyway, keep up the good work.

 

[JohnQuixote]

So Rod, for the record...

I believe you've established that expected DOCD medication includes no jewelry-stressful activity, and a regimen of daily cleaning & inspection. Outpatient treatment could involve US cleaner, use of polishing materials & regular inspection with a loupe or microscope (more ?) and it sounds like the minor surgery you had performed resulted in stress relief and clearer vision.

Would Dr. Brillianteering concur?

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 8/22/2006 6:26:06 PM
Author: JohnQuixote
So Rod, for the record...

I believe you''ve established that expected DOCD medication includes no jewelry-stressful activity, and a regimen of daily cleaning & inspection. Outpatient treatment could involve US cleaner, use of polishing materials & regular inspection with a loupe or microscope (more ?) and it sounds like the minor surgery you had performed resulted in stress relief and clearer vision.

Would Dr. Brillianteering concur?

ROFLMHO!!!

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 6:06:05 PM
Author: lili

Date: 8/22/2006 5:15:47 PM
Author: Rod

Date: 8/22/2006 4:57:47 PM
Author: lili

Date: 8/22/2006 3:32:35 PM
Author: Rod
Actually the stone doesn''t look bigger. It just looks brighter and the patterns are more easily discernable. But thanks for your comments

Ooops, please excuse me. Don''t know what I was reading.

By the way, how much did you size down your ring?
You are so lucky to be experiencing finger lipo
The ring size reduction should make your diamond look a lot bigger, no?

Can''t wait to see the new pix.

Thanks Lili.......I actually began a program I call ''Rebuild Rod'' almost a year ago. I''ve lost 50 pounds on the scale, but more importantly, I''ve lost significantly more body fat. My BFI has gone from nearly 30% to below 17%. I work out at the gym 5 days a week for over 2 hours. I run (last night 4 nonstop miles). And I skate 8 miles at a time. My ring size went from 10 1/2 to 9 1/4. I doubt the ring size did anything. The resizing affected the bottom half, not the top half where the stones are set. Again, the stone doesn''t look bigger, just brighter and more defined.

I''ll take pics soon.

Rod,

Wow, congrats on accomplishing so much in your program. It is really quite a feat in reducing almost half your body fat index.
What is your ultimate goal? How much more lbs to shed?
You stamina must have increased drastically.
I tired after WALKING a mile

Anyway, keep up the good work.

Sorry for the delayed response Lili, but Tues, Wed and Thur nights are gym nights and I go directly from work. Thanks for the kudo''s. I''m not sure I have much more weight to lose. I''m already at a 32 inch waist from a 40 incher and I''ve gone down to 171 from 221. What I have to do is continue converting what flab I do have into muscle and that takes a lot of work, especially for a guy who will turn 52 in less than 6 months.

Now.......about your getting tired walking a mile

. You might want to join our thread in Family and Home. It''s our fitness thread and you''d be surprised how many diamond afflicted friends are working out and sharing successes and helping each other acheive better health. We welcome anyone who cares to join. And one doesn''t have to be working out to join. Just wanting to eat better, or eventually do something for their health (like quitting smoking) is more than welcome

 

[Rod]

Date: 8/22/2006 6:26:06 PM
Author: JohnQuixote
So Rod, for the record...

I believe you''ve established that expected DOCD medication includes no jewelry-stressful activity, and a regimen of daily cleaning & inspection. Outpatient treatment could involve US cleaner, use of polishing materials & regular inspection with a loupe or microscope (more ?) and it sounds like the minor surgery you had performed resulted in stress relief and clearer vision.

Would Dr. Brillianteering concur?

Oh you got me John and indeed Dr. Brillianteering would wholeheartedly concur that the operation provided enormous benefits in fit and vision!!

Thanks for adding additional brightness to my night Sir John!!!

 

[Stone Hunter]

Rod,

I just want to Congratulate you on your weight loss and new fitness level.

Oh, and it''s nice that your ring resize helped your diamond look better.