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blondie23

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I know this topic has been discussed at length here on PS. I have looked through the various threads, and I am still at a loss as to what to do.

Background:

I have been off PS for a while now, but I joined right after getting engaged. Since that time my engagement ring has been lost or stolen. We’ve filed an insurance claim with Chubb (BTW- they were AMAZING to work with and made this process so much easier!!!) and received our check.

My old ring was a 1.5 RB, I/VS1, Cartier 1895 Solitaire.

I would like to upgrade my ring to a 2.5 RB.

So, back to the topic at hand.

I have been looking at WF and Brian Gavin. WF has a 2.45 J/SI1 available that I am highly considering. I recently purchased earrings that are both J color. The earrings are AMAZING. When I look at them face down all I see is white. Even when I look at the side, I hardly see any yellow.

But for some reason I’m still nervous about getting a J in a larger stone which is pushing me to wait until an I-colored stone becomes available.

Will the color be more noticeable in a larger stone?

Will I really be able to tell that much of a difference from an I to a J as opposed to a G to a J??

Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.

HELP!

Thanks!
 
Personally, even in larger sizes, I cannot tell the difference between an I and a J. However, I can spot a slight difference between a G and a J. It''s not yellow but sort of off coloured.
 
Date: 11/24/2009 11:27:46 AM
Author:blondie23


Will I really be able to tell that much of a difference from an I to a J as opposed to a G to a J??

Define "that much".

The difference is real.
The difference is slight.
The difference affects the price.

The difference between J and K is slight too.
Then the difference between K and L is slight too.
So get the L?
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I just don't understand this oft-asked question, "Is the difference worth the money?"

But yes, I to J is one grade difference while G to J is three.
Of course the difference between a G and J will be greater than the difference between I and J.

There's really no end to this.
We all have different color sensitivity.
You could get 20 people here saying get the J, but when you get it you may not agree with them, so what good was that majority opinion?
You have to go out and see them for yourself.
 
I think that most people can see the difference in color between a ''G'' and a ''J'' if they are consciously looking for it... However most people aren''t looking for color when they look at diamonds, they are looking for sparkle. Dropping a color grade or two to pick up some extra size? I''d venture to say that the extra size will be more noticed by people than a color grade.
 
Date: 11/24/2009 11:38:15 AM
Author: kenny



Date: 11/24/2009 11:27:46 AM
Author:blondie23


Will I really be able to tell that much of a difference from an I to a J as opposed to a G to a J??

Define 'that much'.

The difference is real.
The difference is slight.
The difference affects the price.

The difference between J and K is slight too.
Then the difference between K and L is slight too.
So get the L?
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But yes, I to J is one grade while G to I is two, so the difference between a G and I will be greater than the difference between I and J.

There's really no end to this.
We all have different color sensitivity.
You could get 20 people here saying get the J, but when you get it you may not agree with them, so what good was that majority opinion?
You have to go out and see them for yourself.
I thought that the width of colour band got wider in the lower colours, except for I, which was caused by an instrument error that went undetected for many years?
So that, for example, D-F colour bands are quite tight, but by the time you get to K-M, the bands are so wide that tere are visible differences betweentwo stones that have the nominal same grade. Hence the commonly-seen reference to "I have a high J colour".

I can see the difference between an ideal-cut round F and H (two grades), when side-by-side, face up and mounted.
But I can't tell the difference between D and F (two grades) when face-up and mounted.
Likewise, I can't tell the difference between H and I when mounted.

That kind of supports the bands getting wider as the colours get more tinted.
 
I have read that too.

Still, seeing for yourself is better than basing your buying decision on the color sensitivity of others.
 
Date: 11/24/2009 11:50:16 AM
Author: kenny
I have read that too.
I added a little more after you replied.
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Me too.
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I'm a notorious editor.
I frequently keep editing till the time is up.
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Blondie, I can tell you that I have had both and I and a J from Brian. I love love love my stone that was a 1.70 J VS 2. It was truly one of the most beautiful stones I have
ever seen. At times I could see a little color in it. It bugged me a little bit, but not to much. No one who ever looked at my stone could see any color at all, and on top
of that my girlfriends always looked at my stone and compared it to theirs and liked mine better. Some of them had very white stones. So if that is what it takes to get
the size you want in a Brian Gavin diamond, go for it without another thought. It will be gorgeous, that is the only thing Brian would give you. A handful of gorgeous.

You will always be able to trade up for an I if you decide later. When I upgraded to a 2.57 I was able to go up to an I. When I opened the box the first time, I noticed color
against the white background but never again after that. I do miss my J, if I could afford to buy it back, I would. Brian said to me, "It''s like comparing your children, they
are each a little different, but you love them both". It is true. Go for it girl, if that is the size you want. Ask Lesley how much color she sees. The girl has an eye, and she
will tell you the truth. You will love love love any stone that Brian picks, he wouldn''t give you less.
 
Date: 11/24/2009 11:40:39 AM
Author: Todd Gray
I think that most people can see the difference in color between a ''G'' and a ''J'' if they are consciously looking for it... However most people aren''t looking for color when they look at diamonds, they are looking for sparkle. Dropping a color grade or two to pick up some extra size? I''d venture to say that the extra size will be more noticed by people than a color grade.
ditto. when i look at a diamond, i don''t look for a color difference first, i wanna see how much it can blind my eyes
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. i also wouldn''t be able to tell difference in color between a G and a J unless i had a G colored diamond next to it.

the advantage with rounds is that if you get a really well cut diamond, the tint is less noticeable.
 
Date: 11/24/2009 11:40:39 AM
Author: Todd Gray
I''d venture to say that the extra size will be more noticed by people than a color grade.
agreed
at the end of the day, people notice the size and sparkle more than the colour
 
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