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windy1365

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Okay, girls... let me know if you would be highly mad and upset if your fiancee that you are marrying in nine days told you this...

Last night, I was complaining to him about us having such a long engagement. We have been engaged for a year and two months. When he first proposed, I wanted only a six month engagment, but he wouldn''t budge on it. It has just drug on!! Anyway, he told me that he needed that time to be sure it was the right thing to do. Wrong thing to say, and he realized it immediately. He started saying that he wanted to give me time to see if that''s what I really wanted... whatever!!

So, today, I told him that it really hurt my feelings. I told him that he shouldn''t have proposed unless he was ''sure''. I didn''t pressure him at all to propose to me! We hadn''t even really discussed marriage b/f he proposed. He said that he needed the time to start thinking of me as his fiancee instead of his girlfriend... and needed that time for his feelings to develop even more. I accepted this response and started feeling better.

Then, he called me late this afternoon, and I told him that I felt better about it. He decided that he was going to explain it better by using a simile..metaphor... whatever. He said that it is like how at work (he is an engineer), he has to make a decision using what data he has available. He said that when he proposed, he based that decision on the data that he had at the time hoping for a good result. But, he said, it takes more data b/f you can determine whether or not you''ve made the right decision. The year gave him time to collect more data, and he indeed had might the right choice.

Now, I am more mad than I was the first time at the whole needing a year to be sure comment. Everything worked out fine in the end, but I don''t understand why you would propose to someone unless you are absolutely sure at that moment!! This takes all the love and romance out of the whole thing and makes me feel like a scientific experiment that just happened to go right.

How would you all feel if your fiancee that you are about to marry told you this???
 
You are getting married in nine days?? Maybe emotions are just running a little high at the moment. If you felt this way why didn''t you bring it up before?? Maybe you did and you were just trying to get some more validation from him. This must be a hectic time for both of you. Have a heart to heart with him, I''m sure he will put your mind at ease. I wish you all the best and hope everythings ok!!!
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I agree with kaleigh and will add my two cents - as a fellow engineer (and as a guy), I''d cut him a little slack. I''d hazard a guess that your BF operates more by logic than by emotions and he tried to explain himself in his terms....not the best thing to do when your emotions are running high and you are involved in a lot of stress.

How about this translation - though maybe I''m not the best spokesperson for this...

He said that when he proposed, he based that decision on the data that he had at the time hoping for a good result." Translation - He listened to his heart and made that oh so hard leap of faith to marry you.

"But, he said, it takes more data b/f you can determine whether or not you''ve made the right decision." Translation - Our engagement was good as we''ve gotten to know each other - it takes me time to know if my emotions and my logic are all in sync.

"The year gave him time to collect more data, and he indeed had might the right choice."
Translation - I love you.



Have a talk with him but realize you might be communicating in different languages....
 
Yes...he is a very logical thinking person. But...why can''t he at least try to say it in a better way? I''ll talk to him about it again tonight.

I would just think that you would be sure about the person b/f you proposed. But... since we''ve lived together the past year... he has gotten the opportunity to get to know me better. Which...makes his comment even weirder. I would think he would want to run the other way after getting to know me better. I am irrational a lot of the time. I am very emotional. I am a very jealous person. I like to do things to piss him off. I pick on him constantly, especially if I know he wants to be left alone. I am always daydreaming about wanting to be one of the women on Sex and the City.

I wouldn''t want to marry someone like me!! I drive my own self crazy! I even asked him a month or so ago was he absolutely sure that he wanted to marry me, and I proceeded to list out all of my bad qualities. He said that he already knew my bad qualities and accepts them and loves me anyway. He said that I was like when he makes Koolaide and puts just the right amount of sugar in it, and it''s just perfect.... not too sweet.
 
You are going to be the bride in NINE days and I''m sure your head is going a million miles a minute!!

I think Websailor put things pretty well. My brother-in-law is an engineer, and I suspect this is just a communication issue gone awry. I wouldn''t bring it up again--you KNOW he loves you. You KNOW he wants to marry you--any other over-examination of his lousy metaphor/phrasing is just nitpicking. I''d try to NOT have another chat about it tonight, if you can manage that. He stuck his foot in his mouth big time, but I suspect he meant something along the lines of, I was sure about you then, but now 14 months later I''m REALLY sure about you.
 
windy-
I don''t know you personally, but from your posts, you remind me a lot of one of my old college roommates. A year and a half ago, she married a very logical, scientific thinking type of guy (PhD in Chemistry). They are so cute together! They complement each other other''s personalities very well. Her extreme "irrational", "emotional", "dreamer", etc., qualities balance out his "logical", "stoic", "non-imaginitve" qualities. It''s like a yin-yang effect. Maybe the reason why your FI feels you are perfect for him is that you make him a better man. Your personality traits that you listed sound like they help to bring out your FI''s lively and fun side of his personality. I know the phrase is corny, but it sounds like "you complete him" (like the line from the Jerry Maguire movie).

To answer your question "How would you all feel if your fiancee that you are about to marry told you this???", I would probably giggle
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because my boyfriend and I are both engineers. That is such an engineer''s statement!!!
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Our work days consist of data, predictions, input, output, results, repeat process, vary the variables, etc., etc. The process is so ingrained! I''m sure that I''ve used a similar method as your FI when I''ve tried to explain something.

I know on the outside it may sound unromantic, but think of it this way: When he proposed, he didn''t know for sure if you would say yes, am I right? Based on his feelings, he thought you might be the one. I think that some of the "more data" that he needed was whether or not you felt the same way, could you compromise to plan a wedding together, assess life goals, etc., etc. He probably just needed a little longer to thoroughly evaluate everything (a very annoying quality that a lot of us engineers have
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). To make sure he had all his bases covered. That sort of thing.

RELAX! ENJOY YOUR LAST WEEK OF BEING ENGAGED!!! You two sound like a great couple and I know your wedding will be BEAUTIFUL!
 
I love engineers. So logical, yet confusing at the same time. One of my best male friends is an engineer. I always tell him he lives in a different world than the rest of us. Of course I wouldn''t have him any other way.
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If it was a regular guy telling me this I would be upset...but from an engineer - well it is more like a compliment.
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Thanks for the great advice! Ya''ll are right. We made up while ago. He made me laugh, so I feel all better now.

Buena Girl - you are so right about our relationship! When I first met my fiancee...he was so reserved. He kept to himself and did not open up to anyone. I, on the other hand, am very silly. I just kept picking on him until months into our relationship...he opened up finally! Now he picks on me, too. We have the best time doing silly things to each other.

I did bring out the fun side of his personality!! People that he knows probably would never believe how he acts when it''s just me and him. He is so serious and professional at work! We do seem to complete each other.

I guess I''m stressed b/c I only have 9 more days. I keep worrying that something is going to happen to me to mess me up for the wedding. Tuesday at the gym, we were doing bicep curls by stepping on those rubber things with the handles. It came out from under my foot, but luckily, it hit me on top of the head instead of in the face...though, I don''t know how.
 
When my husband asked me to marry him, he would have married me the next weekend, the next month or in two years for that matter. When I went to work on the Monday after the Saturday he proposed, people were like, "Have you set a date?" as if they thought we''d spent all day Sunday looking at reception halls!!! We did set a date three weeks later...Aug. 15, 2004...11 months after the proposal. It was really about getting the right place for us, as well as having enough time to plan a nice wedding...I thought it was fun being engaged -- I got to shop -- a lot! It honestly never entered my mind to think it was too long or too short or that he or I needed time to figure out what we wanted. Even earlier than the day we got engaged, I don''t think either one of us have wondered if being together was the right thing to do!

I wouldn''t say this if I hadn''t read your previous posts, but are you sure you''re ready to marry this man...you never seem to have anything nice to say about him until other people give you advice...and then you defend him! I hope I''m not out of line here, just concerned that''s all...klr
 
Date: 4/21/2005 8:54:22 PM
Author: windy1365
I even asked him a month or so ago was he absolutely sure that he wanted to marry me, and I proceeded to list out all of my bad qualities. He said that he already knew my bad qualities and accepts them and loves me anyway. He said that I was like when he makes Koolaide and puts just the right amount of sugar in it, and it''s just perfect.... not too sweet.

That''s really what it comes down to.....loving someone enough to accept who they really are. Loving someone''s positive qualities so much that the less attractive qualities are relegated to minor league status.

What more could you want?
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