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CharlemagneInSweatpants

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The setting I am considering looks sooo good with 1ct and 0.25 sides, but I have a pricepoint I am trying to stick to...

I am thinking this one with .18 sides in a three e-ring...



Round Brilliant
Measurements: 6.09 - 6.11 x 3.65 mm
Carat Weight: 0.83
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: SI2
Cut Grade: Excellent
Depth: 59.8 %
Table: 60 %
Crown Angle: 34°
Crown Height: 14 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.6°
Pavilion Depth: 42.5 %
Star length: 55 %
Lower Half: 80 %
Girdle: Medium
Culet: Very Small
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Feather
 
Have you asked the vendor if its eye clean?
 
I did not but I should. The vendor is steering me toward a 0.86 H SI1, not really liking the one I chose to get a quote on.

I would not be so wishy washy but I really love the setting they offer and want to find one of their diamonds to make it all work.

So the first question is eye clean?

I appreciate the input this board can give...
 
The sales person has presented me with a couple options:

Carat: 0.8
Color: G
Clarity: SI1
Cut: IDEAL
Shape: Round
Depth %: 62.6
Table %: 57
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 5.91*5.94*3.71
Crown Angle: 36.0
Lab: GIA

and

Carat: 0.86
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Cut: SIGNATURE
Shape: Round
Depth %: 62.9
Table %: 55
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.06*6.09*3.82
Lab: GIA

The sales person said that if I was really interested in these, she could request a cert from her vendor.
 
Date: 11/15/2007 9:13:40 AM
Author: CharlemagneInSweatpants
The sales person has presented me with a couple options:

Carat: 0.8
Color: G
Clarity: SI1
Cut: IDEAL
Shape: Round
Depth %: 62.6
Table %: 57
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 5.91*5.94*3.71
Crown Angle: 36.0 * need pavillion angle and girdle thickness*
Lab: GIA

and

Carat: 0.86
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Cut: SIGNATURE
Shape: Round
Depth %: 62.9
Table %: 55
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.06*6.09*3.82 * need crown and pavillion angles and girdle thickness*
Lab: GIA

The sales person said that if I was really interested in these, she could request a cert from her vendor.
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If you can get the above measurements that would help. Also the only way to find out if an SI clarity is eyeclean is to know your expectations and have the vendor describe each diamond accurately to you. Also Idealscope images would be most helpful if you can get them.
 
Thank you for the reply Lorelei. I have requested that information.
 
Having recently helped my brother in law buy a stone for his wife, the stone was similar in specs to the .83 G-SI-2 that you''ve posted. If you have a tight budget & are also looking at size, this stone might be the one for your ring. BUT, because of the #''s & clarity, be sure the vendor, whom I hope is a trusted one, can physically look at it to determine if it is in fact a lovely stone. My sister in laws ring was a needle in a heystack, J- I-1, with all white inclusions, eye clean & all white inclusions. Her ring looks fantastic & her husband didnt break his bank account.
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Plus her stone had a lovely H&A pattern too with a table of 59 or 60 (cant remember now).

I think that .18 stones would be a nice size against an .80 ish stone.

Judy
:-)
 

Here are the more complete specs of the larger stone.


Round Brilliant
Measurements: 6.06 - 6.09 x 3.82 mm
Carat Weight: 0.86
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: SI1
Cut Grade: Excellent
Proportions:
Depth: 62.9 %
Table: 55 %
Crown Angle: 36°
Crown Height: 16 %
Pavilion Angle: 41.2°
Pavilion Depth: 43.5 %
Star length: 45 %
Lower Half: 75 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted
Culet: None
Finish:
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Cloud
GIA

Thanks also for the reply CCU. The side stone size was the sales persons idea. I appreciate that you agree.
 
That setting looks really nice. Good luck with your diamond search!
 
CIS,

That diamond scores a 5.3 on the HCA (Good: Only if price is your main criterion) with "Good" light return, "Fair" fire, "Good" scintillation and "Very Good" spread. What does it look like to your eye?

What kind of a budget are you working with? Maybe we can help you find a nicer stone.
 
I guess that brings it out into the open...I can spend around 5K for e-ring and band.

I have yet to determine how I can make a band work with this. I have had a couple suggestions from Mr. Atlas regarding filigree and open work, but I am not sure what that means. Filigree has alot of detail, but I feel this setting's appeal is the simplicity and smoothness.

The setting...

1B1B.jpg
 
I would prefer a bigger centre stone with a pave band for the budget than to share it between 3 stones that are all smallish. But I know its a very personal decision. I dont think that setting is going to be that attractive with the smaller stones.
 
Yeah, I am feeling out of my league here.

Deviating from the 1 ct center with 1/4 ct sides proportion on this setting makes me nervous.
 
Your doing ok! Its hard making decisions like these ones re. size, quantitly, quality, setting....the choices are endless.

Things to help you narrow down your decision is your partners preferences. Does she love the setting you have your eye on? Is her finger size big or small. Does she prefer a 3 stone ring etc.

With your budget, you can afford a really beautiful ring. I guess the hard part is working out the strategy of what amount to spend on what.

My strategy is to put as much into the centre stone as possible. But that might not suit everyone. I think the diamond is like the real estate and the ring is like the house in the package. You can always renovate or rebuild a house, but it is the land that goes up in value!

Others here can give you more help re. cut and finding a great stone for your $.
 
This setting is everything she would like based on aspects she has identified in other rings we have looked at. All we have looked at though had the standard 1 ct center.
 
Well you know her preferences based on a one carat centre stone. She might change her tactics if the centre stone is to be 20% smaller. She might be happy to scale down the whole ring keeping the design as is. Or she might say, forget the side diamonds, we can always get those latter. Or she might have another idea entirely.
 
I know basically what she would like...I don''t wanna set her loose to pick out a ring. That invites disappointment methinks.

If this setting would be bad with less than 1.0/.25/.25 then I will have to look at something else.


Thanks for your input Sharon.


Anyone else wanna chime in?

Thanks!
 
Why aren''t you considering an H or an I stone? You could get the sizes you wanted if you did this. I have F, G, H, I and K stones. The only one that has discernible colour is the K. I can see no difference at all between the G and H in a particular ring I have where the stones are side by side. Just curious if it''s just mind clean issue.
 
That''s a gorgeous setting. Are you obligated to buy the diamonds from whoever you''re buying the setting from?

I don''t think you need a 1 ct. center at all. Something close, like a .80ct would do just fine. Personally, I like smaller side stones so the center really pops.
 
I think I found the same setting you''re looking for at Solomon Brothers (crappy picture, but I think it''s the same):

Scott Kay Three-Stone 19k WG $2640

It''s a designer setting, so you''re going to be paying a bit for the name, too. Is it the setting you have your heart on, or will you consider something similar?
 
Well, you have a decent budget for an .80ish stone, but you may have to up that for a 1ct. stone. I would go to an I colour to get the best cut I could & again the same thing for the sidestones. If you''re going to do a platinum ring, you''ll have to come up with a bit more for the setting. Just to give you an example, James Allen has a stone #1108751, 1 ct, SI-2, I for $3999 (cert pic not showing up but that might be a glitch) and a few H or I coloured .22''s for $400 each. So basically then that will put you at $4000 and leaves $1000 for the setting. This is just an example of how you can break down the ring, there are a ton of combinations to achieve the look you want. Are you willing to go lower on colour? If so, perhaps you may get the 1ct mark you guys have been looking at. And .20ish size with a 1 ct will look fine & not small at all. I have .20''s against my 1.5 & it looks fine. :-)

Whiteflash recently found an SI-1, I for a friend of my brothers that wasnt listed anywhere. Maybe Tracy over there can help you out.

Judy
:-)
 
Me again!

What about this?

.816 ct H, SI1 H&A $3075

WF Three-Stone Trellis $1195

I don't believe that setting price includes the side stones, but WF can help you find a couple within your budget. Maybe .15 ct sides? Eye-clean H or I stones?
 
I like the setting you picked. You dont have to go designer cause there are stock peices already similar to what you want.

Adwar.com (awful pictures), collection #20, page 1155

Adjour.com (better pictures & I''m SURE the same company as Adwar as their peices are identical),
-- click on "ladies rings", then "3 Stone" , go in about 2 pages & you have your ring. \

Some vendors will use one or the other. Seems like there are 2 standard sizes, the .70 & 1.00 mount. Check with a vendor as to what direction you should go in for an .80 ish if you end up with that size.

Good luck!

Judy
:-)
 
Oh, I forgot to mention, Whiteflash can & often does order from Adwar so thats an option.

Judy
:-)
 
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