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Hi all--

This is my first post. I am new to PS and learning quickly, but certainly would love your advice.

I expect to get engaged soon and have a few ideas swirling in my head for what I would like for an e-ring. I am quite picky and -- unfortunately for my bf-- the type for whom size is the priority. I am a sucker for a huge center stone-- and then i want to throw a halo on top of that!

I''d be thrilled to find an RB in the 3ct range. Stumbled across this link:

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=389

What do you all think? An ideal cut would be exciting, but "N" color? Does anyone have any experience with how off the color would be? I just want it to look sufficiently white-- doesnt have to be a D. But would the cut of the stone make it sparkly enough to mask its lesser color? Does anyone have other stones in similar color range they can show me as examples?

Thoughts anyone? THanks in advance for advice!
 
I''m not a jeweler or expert, but the N color will look noticeably warm. You should search the boards for Jonathan''s (goodoldgold.com) color tutorial video.

Warmth of color can really be quite pleasant, but it''s a matter of personal taste. If you want it in a halo, you will have to consider if you are ok with the contrast between possibly whiter halo stones, or if you want the halo made with matching stones (which could be more "trouble" to do)--because you will probably notice the yellow of it''s smack dab next to whiter stones.

However, don''t throw this option out just because of color. N''s can be lovely, and because of the nice cut, it probably faces up much whiter and you won''t notice the color from the top as much.

(I''m writing this as someone who really likes more yellow colors!)
 
The stone will no doubt be gorgeous. That said, with an N you''ll have to embrace the color. It''s not going look even near colorless. There will be some tint.

If size is your main priority, then this could be a great choice. If you wind up a doing a halo, I''d make sure the melee matches the center stone.
 
Here is the 2.73ct N-SI1:
(Wink has posted a picture of it.)

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Date: 5/10/2009 12:06:24 AM
Author: elle_chris
The stone will no doubt be gorgeous. That said, with an N you''ll have to embrace the color. It''s not going look even near colorless. There will be some tint.

If size is your main priority, then this could be a great choice. If you wind up a doing a halo, I''d make sure the melee matches the center stone.
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Ditto Elle, there will be some distinct tint to an N colour, even with such a fabulous cut it won''t mask the colour as such. IMO also the warmth is something you need to embrace if this would be a suitable diamond for you.
 
Consider highlighting the tint with some small, very white accessory diamonds next to it. That could set up a nice contrasting effect. You might want to put a bit of yellow gold into the ring near the diamond, too, while you can still choose white or yellow metal for the majority of the ring. If you and the person who is going to wear it can deal with the tint, then it can look super.

Fashion is the main reason for the overwhelming popularity of colorless diamonds in the USA. In some other parts of the world, the N color would not be much of an issue. With money so tight, maybe we''ll begin to be more accepting of lower color diamonds here. Although some folks can argue the opposing view, I''d suggest that color is not a natural "quality" issue. It is a quality and value issue due to the constructs of the existing market, but has little to do with the way nature has provided diamonds in nearly all the color intensities. Color is more a matter of choice which the market follows. If everyone preferred "N" colors, they could just as easily replace D color as the ''best". Right now, this isn''t the case, but little stands on the way of change. Fashion can switch quite rapidly. I have both wide and very narrow neckties to prove it.
 
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but while an ideal cut can certainly help make a stone face up a bit whiter, the color isn't masked when viewing from the side. Depending on the setting, a stone of such size could show its tint, but it all depends on what you like. Something in the I-J range might be suitable for you if you're not looking for ice white. The best way to decide would be to actually look at stones in person to determine how warm you want to go since a computer screen won't show the true color.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1103736.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1466931.htm
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4844/
 
I''d like to embrace that N
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...I''d play up the color like OM said but it is a matter of personal taste.
 
Thanks all for your input. Certainly a lot to think about. But the photo of the N looks so beautiful to me-- I hardly notice the tint/warmth. But I am sure you all are right that I''d need to be careful what sort of melee I put right next to it....I wish I could more easily see these stones in person so I''d know if the color bothers me!
 
It will be gorgeous, but visibly warm. It will be the type of shade you''ll have to like and embrace rather than try to cover up. If you want something that can pass for white, then you''ll probably have to go to the J range in this size or maybe K. It may look somewhere in between antique white and butter.
 
Hi all-- Thanks again for all your guidance. What are your thoughts on this stone?

It''s a J color with medium blue flouresence-- which, as I understand it, may help whiten it up, right? And hopefully it would be a sparkler! Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

http://search.virtcert.com/cgi/u/1012/v.cgi?stock=8976464&_s=1012&_p=sdf348gd743&_c=&_fs=1&prestock=&_ln=ps
 
Blue fluorescence will only help (if at all) in natural light. Having said that, a well cut J will look white in pretty much all light conditions, unless set right next to an F!

Using the limited info available, the diamond you have posted is not "the best" cut (Crown 34.5 Pav 41.2 Table 58 Depth 62.2 - from the GIA report). It's far from a dog, but you can find better - however it's a 3 ct stone, and at less than $5k/ct I suspect the biggest problem is that it is most likely not eye clean.
 
Lorelei - I could get the report out on the GIA site - just in case you want them: SL 50%; LH 80%, but it's frankly trumped by the pavillion angle and the medium-thick girdle, plus the potential clarity issue...
 
Date: 5/11/2009 8:48:14 AM
Author: oldmancoyote
Lorelei - I could get the report out on the GIA site - just in case you want them: SL 50%; LH 80%, but it's frankly trumped by the pavillion angle and the medium-thick girdle, plus the potential clarity issue...
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Thanks OMC, I often have trouble for some reason with the report check - I just saw you had the info in an above post - I must have missed it- duh! OMC is also right that it might not be eyeclean, but if you want to pursue this diamond then an Idealscope image would be most helpful.
 
Date: 5/10/2009 12:24:31 PM
Author: binsker
Thanks all for your input. Certainly a lot to think about. But the photo of the N looks so beautiful to me-- I hardly notice the tint/warmth. But I am sure you all are right that I''d need to be careful what sort of melee I put right next to it....I wish I could more easily see these stones in person so I''d know if the color bothers me!
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My colleague proudly wears an L-colour princess-cut (said to show colour more easily than a round brilliant) and she has black melee diamonds on two sides of the stone, all set in white gold.

In bright surroundings, the stone looks colorless (even mistaken for an F by a professional at JCK), while in lower-light-situations, the tint clearly shows. My colleague really likes that since she thinks it gives her diamond more character, and it is as if she has two diamonds instead of one.

Live long,
 
HI:

If I were to buy the stone you are contemplating, I would set it in a antique style (or original antique) setting; I think it would lend an old world vibe to the ring and look spectacular.

There are a few stones on this forum in that color range--a search using the engine on top might show you the way....
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cheers--Sharon
 
I haven''t checked out the links on this thread yet, I want to get to it when I have more time. However, I wanted to say quickly, as the owner of several lower-colored diamonds, tint will have absolutely nothing to to with a well-cut diamond''s ability to sparkle or its ability to look sensational. Yes, you will notice the warmer hue, however, once you give it a fair shake, you may actually find that you prefer the slightly golden tone, or, better still, that it looks MORE flattering to your skin and coloring than a "cold" high-white diamond may look. Personally, I''d nab that N-color beauty and work with yellow gold to really play-up the warm, luscious glow. If you go with a halo, yes, you could try to push the "yellow" in the stone by using contrasting high-white melee around it, but also, you could continue with lower-colored N-ish diamonds in the melee and you''d have a HUGE looking golden fireball on your finger. Add a little engraving or filigree detail for an old-world look and OMG... YUMMY!

My apologies if I missed an important element to the conversation in the links...
 
I would never have a N diamond set in yellow gold, but in white gold because I''m proud of the color and because of the antique look that I can''t notice if the diamond is set in yellow gold.
(But I could have a J set in yellow gold to make it look whiter because it isn''t yellow enough.)
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Just got a video of the N-SI1 ideal cut 2.73

for your viewing enjoyment:

http://www.screencast.com/t/UGKxasJayVP

It is beautiful to be sure-- slightly buttery as you''d all predicted. I do like it, but am not sure if it what I had in mind since I had envisioned a whiter stone set in a white gold halo. I''d have to feel very comfortable playing up its tint to go ahead with my plan! Stay tuned!

As for the J-color with fluoro-- I''ll have to find out if it is eye-clean and ideally check it out firsthand with an appraiser if I were to buy it. Would want to see its color, check if its too cloudy, see it''s sparkle, clarity....My goodness, so many variables!

Thanks all for your help; you certainly are an invaluable help to us newbies. :)
 
Wow Shimmer that''s gorgeous
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Date: 5/11/2009 6:43:19 PM
Author: binsker
Just got a video of the N-SI1 ideal cut 2.73

for your viewing enjoyment:

http://www.screencast.com/t/UGKxasJayVP

It is beautiful to be sure-- slightly buttery as you''d all predicted. I do like it, but am not sure if it what I had in mind since I had envisioned a whiter stone set in a white gold halo. I''d have to feel very comfortable playing up its tint to go ahead with my plan! Stay tuned!

As for the J-color with fluoro-- I''ll have to find out if it is eye-clean and ideally check it out firsthand with an appraiser if I were to buy it. Would want to see its color, check if its too cloudy, see it''s sparkle, clarity....My goodness, so many variables!

Thanks all for your help; you certainly are an invaluable help to us newbies. :)
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I missed this when you posted earlier. Glad you liked the video and that it helped you to know a little more about the diamond.

I am putting the link in link form here.

Wink
 
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