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How to find H&A for a solitarie at Tiffany & Co? Any tips?

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Dear all,
I need all your advice and help for mission impossible: To find an Hearts and Arrows diamond on the Tiffany setting. Any tips or advice on how this may be accomplished?

Many thanks!!

Fl
 
~~Are you looking for a Tiffany & Co. solitaire (from Tiffany), or an H&A diamond in a six prong setting??
 
An H&A from Tiffany & Co on the 6 prong platinum setting. =))

Fl
 
I suggest buying an idealscope so you can see the arrows pattern yourself, you''ll have to turn the stone upside down to see the hearts. As far as I know Tiffany doesn''t cut/purchase stones that purposefully display the pattern and stones that do are branded so Tiffany''s won''t have them. I''d try to have tiffany''s find the stone with close to ideal specs and take along the scope to see the pattern. tiffany''s probably isn''t going to let you view stones outside of the store in natural light so make sure you''re aware of color preferences etc.
 
Out of all the round Tiffany solitares I''ve seen, only one come to mind that had arrows.

WhiteFlash makes a damn good replica, if not prettier, of the T&Co. solitare. Add an ACA round and voila!
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I am under the same impression that Tiffany does not sell H&A stones--that's a style of cut and is usually branded by a seller (e.g., Hearts on Fire, A Cut Above, etc.). Tiffany has their own style of stone they sell. I am a huge fan of Tiffany diamonds and think they are beautiful as they are, and you shouldn't think you are getting a sub-standard diamond just because it doesn't display the H&A pattern. You still have to be vigilant about _which_ diamond you buy, of course; I am sure there are differences among all the stones Tiffany has to offer in your size, and you will want to buy the one you love the best, or fits your choice of parameters. A stone can display fire and sparkle and not have arrows--I own one that does this.

If you like the H&A _pattern_ on the stone, then you should look at those sellers who deal H&A cut stones and choose a high quality one in your budget for the best display.

My own personal opinion is that Tiffany's setting is the bomb, and the replicas are generally not as nice (especially if what you like about T's is the low setting, elegant prongs, and knife-edge), but a _few_ come close in my eyes: SuperbCert's, Mark Morrell Sunburst solitaire setting, Locke's, and Quest's solitaire. For me, the others are not as nice, but remember this is _opinion_.
 
Date: 9/28/2006 9:22:27 AM
Author: mrssalvo
...tiffany''s probably isn''t going to let you view stones outside of the store in natural light so make sure you''re aware of color preferences etc.

In my experience, they are generally very accomodating to let you bring the ring to the window, though. At the store near me, they let me carry the ring to a window at the front of the store where there was minimal store lighting and a huge floor-to-ceiling window so I could see in natural light. They seemed to think this was normal, so I bet many customers do this.
 
Many ideal cut stones will display a hearts and arrows pattern. The most perfect ones are often bought and marketed as "Hearts and Arrows" stones by various vendors. But there are others that display the pattern that are not marketed as such. A good example would be many of the stones on the James Allen site. You see on the magnified image that the stone displys a H&A pattern, but the stone is not advertised as such. So as MrsSalvo said, the only thing you can do is to buy a hearts and arrows viewer and take it to Tiffany''s with you.
 
Date: 9/28/2006 5:30:06 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Many ideal cut stones will display a hearts and arrows pattern. The most perfect ones are often bought and marketed as ''Hearts and Arrows'' stones by various vendors. But there are others that display the pattern that are not marketed as such. ...

I did not know that. Guess ya learn something every day.
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Date: 9/29/2006 4:42:34 PM
Author: Oleander

Date: 9/28/2006 5:30:06 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Many ideal cut stones will display a hearts and arrows pattern. The most perfect ones are often bought and marketed as ''Hearts and Arrows'' stones by various vendors. But there are others that display the pattern that are not marketed as such. ...

I did not know that. Guess ya learn something every day.
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Yep, amazing what we can learn around here! Here''s a totally random example..a GIA excellent cut with vg polish and symmetery, not technically a H&A stone. But take a look at the magnified image and you''ll see what I mean.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=936507
 
Many thanks from my heart! Those are invaluable advice!! I am looking to make the purchase in a week in Toronto and have no clue what to expect since this would be my first time in a Tiffany - that''s, on the same day after a cross-atlantic flight. (I am flying out to another city at night.) Any advice on my state of mind and what to expect and avoid?

As for the idealscope it seems it operates with so many equippments, doesn''t it? Or is it just a special lens under which the ring is viewed?

I can''t wait to see the ring!!

Fl
 
Bottom line, just don''t worry about it! I can''t imagine going wrong picking a Tiffany diamond. They will be ideal cut. You just have to understand the color and clarity because their lighting is such that you won''t be able to tell an E from an I. So you might want to take a look at the color and clarity tutorials on the Good Old Gold site to help you set those perferences.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/
 
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