How much is a uncut Fancy Vivid Blue Diamond around 10K.

[hybmu]

And how about its rarity?

 

[kenny]

I read quite a bit about fancy colored diamonds.
Fully natural FVB diamonds are VERY rare.
The exact order of rarity of hues varies with the source I read.
Red is always listed as the most rare, but blue is always somewhere in the top 5, along with green, orange and violet.
(This is for PURE hues with no secondary modifying color, per GIA.)

http://www.fancydiamonds.net/view_diamonds/3722.htm



To give you an idea of the value of FVB diamonds, at $35,300 this Fancy Vivid Blue cut diamond weighs only 0.16 ct.
Rough, it may have weighed perhaps 0.25 or 0.3 ct.
Granted, retail is highly marked up from what the buyer of the rough paid.

So if the question is how heavy would a $10,000 rough FVB fully natural diamond be . . . it won't be very heavy.

But the real problem is . . . if you have to ask on an Internet forum how to become a wholesale rough diamond buyer (especially of natural Fancy Vivid Blues), the odds of an insider posting a job offer or even any truly helpful advice are zero.
But I wish you luck.

 

[TitanCi]

...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... what Kenny said.

 

[Karl_K]

First - rough is not color graded like that, rough is sold by potential and a piece of rough could cut into several different color grades with no guarantees it will get a certain grade from GIA.
Unlike colorless diamonds how it is cut has a huge effect on the final color grade.

Second - if someone had some rough that would cut into pretty much any blue they would have it cut under contract and sold cut because it would be worth much more by up to a factor of maybe 1000x or more cut with a gia report of FVB vs might cut into one rough.

Third - rough offers outside the normal channels to non-established members of the trade who are in the cutting business are almost always fraud or involves illegal rough.
A trip to Cuba is a distinct possibility as is a bullet in the head once they have the money.

Fourth - I strongly suspect I am being trolled here but maybe someone somewhere will find it useful.

 

[kenny]

A trip to Cuba is a distinct possibility

Karl, what do you mean by a trip to Cuba?

 

[tyty333]

Is this a trick question?

 

[kenny]

Is this a trick question?

Not at all.
I think Karl is using "a trip to Cuba" to refer to some punishment or something.
I'm sincerely curious.

 

[tyty333]

Is this a trick question?

Not at all.
I think Karl is using "a trip to Cuba" to refer to some punishment or something.
I'm sincerely curious.

I'll be the first to admit Ive had a long day (oh, and a glass of wine) but doesn't something that cost about 10k cost around 10k?

 

[kenny]

Is this a trick question?

Not at all.
I think Karl is using "a trip to Cuba" to refer to some punishment or something.
I'm sincerely curious.

I'll be the first to admit Ive had a long day (oh, and a glass of wine) but doesn't something that cost about 10k cost around 10k?

That's why I assumed the OP meant how much weight do you get for $10,000.

 

[Rockdiamond]

sounds like a lovely vacation to me...

But maybe Karl was referring to the fact that Cuba might be a place where a scam might be located.
I truly wish a trip to Cuba was possible from the US, but that's another story.
Karl- great points about potentially Blue rough- and how it might be handled.
In terms of rarity, I agree with Kenny- Blue is certainly in the top 5 colors- and also that there's no broad consensus after red being the rarest. My own personal experience is that Blue is number 2 or 3.
I've seen a lot more pinks- and even green is less rare, if we're talking pure blue.
Plus there's so many less variations of blue compared to green- which combines with yellow a lot.
Below is a stone I photographed a few years back
Fancy Deep Blue - about a carat and three quarters, if memory serves me.
Worth less than Fancy Vivid Blue but still way up there.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Is this a trick question?

Not at all.
I think Karl is using "a trip to Cuba" to refer to some punishment or something.
I'm sincerely curious.

I'll be the first to admit Ive had a long day (oh, and a glass of wine) but doesn't something that cost about 10k cost around 10k?

Maybe the OP meant 10ct....
Heck, let's make it a 100,000 karat vivid blue rough diamond

 

[tyty333]

I get it now...10k as in 10 carat (not $10k). I think I'll pour myself another glass of wine
and stop posting for the night! Cheers!

 

[Karl_K]

Buying rough without the right paperwork and or from the wrong people can be a Patriot Act violation in the US and or considered an act of terrorism by the US government.
The trip to Cuba is a reference to Guantánamo Bay, Cuba detention facility for terrorists.

 

[kenny]

Oh.
Thanks Karl.

I'm dreaming now of a 10-carat lump of Fancy Vivid Blue diamond.
I wonder what the weight and price of the resulting Octavia would be.

 

[Karl_K]

Oh.
Thanks Karl.

I'm dreaming now of a 10-carat lump of Fancy Vivid Blue diamond.
I wonder what the weight and price of the resulting Octavia would be.

6ct EC for $10.1 million
http://www.diamonds.net/News/NewsItem.aspx?ArticleID=37380&ArticleTitle=Fancy+Vivid+Blue+6ct.+Diamond+Sells+for+%2410M

6.04ct EC for $7.9 million
http://www.fancydiamonds.net/diamond_education/articles/ten_of_the_most_expensive_diamonds_sold_at_auction.htm

That would be the high end size wise with near perfect rough shape.

It wouldn't yield it but consider this:
An 8.1 EC sold for $12.7 million
http://www.jckonline.com/2012/04/04/not-all-big-fancy-gems-sell-sothebys-auction

 

[kenny]

Oh.
Thanks Karl.

I'm dreaming now of a 10-carat lump of Fancy Vivid Blue diamond.
I wonder what the weight and price of the resulting Octavia would be.

6ct EC for $10.1 million
http://www.diamonds.net/News/NewsItem.aspx?ArticleID=37380&ArticleTitle=Fancy+Vivid+Blue+6ct.+Diamond+Sells+for+%2410M

6.04ct EC for $7.9 million
http://www.fancydiamonds.net/diamond_education/articles/ten_of_the_most_expensive_diamonds_sold_at_auction.htm

That would be the high end size wise with near perfect rough shape.

It wouldn't yield it but consider this:
An 8.1 EC sold for $12.7 million
http://www.jckonline.com/2012/04/04/not-all-big-fancy-gems-sell-sothebys-auction

My my my, those are just a tad larger than my 0.08 ct Greenish Blue diamond , and only a measly 12-million bucks? What the heck!~ I wish!