How hard is it for a cutter to locate lower color, fluorescent rough?

[beaujolais]

How hard is it for a cutter to locate lower color (L, M or so), decent clarity (SI 1 or 2) fluorescent rough?

Thanks.

 

[stone-cold11]

a little random from what I understand of how the bidding for a rough goes.

 

[beaujolais]

You mean hit or miss. They need to be get lucky, pretty much? Thanks, SC.

 

[stone-cold11]

ya, unless you specifically commission them to find one and cut it for you. But that will still take time because of the specs.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/25/2009 5:39:03 PM
Author:sonomacounty
How hard is it for a cutter to locate lower color (L, M or so), decent clarity (SI 1 or 2) fluorescent rough?

Thanks.

Ask if you have someone in mind to cut your stone if they can locate a suitable piece of rough for you, it might be straightforward enough from asking around their contacts if they don''t have such a stone themselves.

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

You have a very specific question, that does not allow for an easy answer. Let me try to give you the complete version.

First, many cutters or better said brands, are selecting part of a bigger production for their brand. This naturally gives them more choice, but they are bound by what the bigger cutting-house is comfortable in, as their cutting-boundaries. They will often find that the lower colour/clarities in combination with fluorescence are not cut to the highest cut-standards, and as such, these brands have hardly no supply of such stones.

With that said, you would think that it is easier for a company like ours, since we buy and cut our own rough. And indeed, we have often found such rough in our parcels, and have cut them to our standards. But still, the combination of a warmer colour, with an SI-clarity and fluorescence is not the most common situation. For instance, we find that many lower colours often go together with a very high clarity.

Also, the presence of such stones in the rough parcels offered to us also varies with the market-situation. When the diamond-market was hot (say end of 2007), rough sellers tried to reduce the value-composition of their parcels, and we found more of such stones in our parcels. In the slow market of end 2008, for instance, demand for rough was very low, and the value-composition of the parcels was better, with less of such stones in our parcels.

However, in the end, if your current dream-combination is not available, it becomes difficult to assess when a cutter (we, for instance) can supply you with your desired combo. Just looking at SI-clarity, especially if you are looking budget-wise at an eye-clean SI2, it is rather difficult to guarantee both eye-cleanness and SI2-grade from the rough, when buying. After we bought the stone, and we have the time to thoroughly examine it in our offices, the likelihood becomes higher, but that is after we already spent our money.

Also, very important, are your size-requirements. As long as you need a straightforward 1Ct-stone, that is relatively easy, but a 1.25 and definitely a 1.40 or 1.70 are rather rare, definitely in the higher cut-qualities.

And, to really complete my post, all the above is entirely incorrect, if you (and preferably a group of consumers) are willing to pay a premium, just to obtain that color-clarity-fluorescence-combination. For that premium, the rough sellers will gladly compose specific parcels for that demand.

Live long,

 

[beaujolais]

Thanks so very much, all.

 

[beaujolais]

Paul, I just had a chance to thoroughly read your reply. Now I get it. I can''t thank you enough for filling me in on the real info from the inside.

Thanks again so very much,
Sonoma