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smike126

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I have bought a Diamond online which I haven't received yet. Actually, I just went with all it's specs and bought it. Just wanted to share it's specifications and ask experts if it looks good at least on Paper. I don't have its pics or images as it was bought online...

Report: GIA
Carat Weight: 2.05
Shape and Cutting Style: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 8.18 – 8.20 x 4.97 mm
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VVS1
Clarity Characteristics: Pinpoints (5 in count)
Cut Grade: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Depth: 60.7 %
Table: 58 %
Crown Angle: 33.5°
Crown Height: 14.0 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0 %
Star length: 45 %
Lower Half: 75 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick (Faceted) 3.5%
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium Blue

HCA Score: 1.0 - Excellent, within TIC range
HCA Light Return: Excellent
HCA Fire: Excellent
HCA Scintillation: Excellent
HCA Spread: Very Good

Thank you very much in Advance!
 
Welcome!

On paper it has promise; its crown angle is a little shallow but it's not horribly outside the most ideal margins. You said it right, though; you only know how it looks on paper. Buying without at least reflector images (Ideal-Scope or ASET) is riskier.

Do you have either tool, or access to a trusted appraiser with one? What's your return policy like? :read:
 
Thanks for your reply, SirGuy!

I actually found it through PriceScope only and bought it on b2cjewels. They have a 30 days Return Policy. So, I am hoping that the Diamond is equally good in reality as it is on the Paper! :))
 
Gotcha. Well, when you get it, be sure to test it out in lots of different lighting to get an idea of how it'll perform day to day. Check it indoors, outdoors, in an elevator, at the supermarket, in candlelight, etc. Some stones are more forgiving than others in certain lights, so you'll want to ensure that you (or your special someone) doesn't have a poorly-performing stone in places or conditions where one is most often. (If that makes sense.) :)
 
Thanks again, Sirguy!. I'll definitely check in all the conditions that you have mentioned. :))

But, when you say a poorly-performing stone, it is in what sense? Do u mean w.r.t. the Light Return, Fire and Scintillation?
 
smike126|1431301435|3874934 said:
Thanks again, Sirguy!. I'll definitely check in all the conditions that you have mentioned. :))

But, when you say a poorly-performing stone, it is in what sense? Do u mean w.r.t. the Light Return, Fire and Scintillation?
Correct! Some stones favor brilliance (brightness and scintillation, white light return) over dispersion (fire, colored light return) depending on how they're cut.

Stones with bigger tables, shorter heights, and shallower crown angles, for example, often appear brighter at the expense of more frequent or significant flashes of color. Stones with smaller tables and steeper crown angles can sometimes have more of that colorful dispersion. Star facet length percentages and such can also affect size and frequency of the flashes.

It's all a compromise. If every stone could offer the most fire and the most brilliance, then they'd all be cut like that. It's kind of like saying a shortcut is harder: of course it is. If it were easier, it would just be "the way."

It depends on what you want. Some folks prefer more fire, and stones that are cut for it usually collect more light from lower on the horizon (the horizon being the girdle plane). Some like more brilliance because they don't want a dimmer stone.

The best stones, which many call "ideal" (although it's arguably personal preference) offer a balance of brilliance and fire.

Most stones cut in those "ideal" margins favor multiple independent spot lighting from varying degrees around the stone and from different heights on the horizon of the girdle plane. If you have one of those big warehouse stores (e.g. Sam's Club) or a particularly well-lit elevator, you'll see what I mean. Of course, you can always just go into a jewelry store, whose lighting is specifically designed to make diamonds look their best!

Make sure your stone is clean: some dish washing liquid and a baby toothbrush with hot water works great, being sure to clean the pavilion. Your stone may appear dark in direct, bright sunlight. The sun is, after all, just one light source that mathematically speaking is very small to the diamond. It's just very bright!

Check out your stone in candlelight or incandescent lighting too, which will let the stone behave differently than fluorescent or cooler LED lights. Your gut check says a lot. Not all diamonds are equal, and neither are all tastes. There are plenty of fish in the sea. If this one doesn't wow you, you can always return it and get something a little different. It's a lot of fun.

Hope that helps! :read:
 
Got it...Thanks much once again for your time and the detailed explanation, SirGuy! :praise:
 
Actually, I just found a very similar Diamond, just a little bit better specs (I think) with the following specs...

Diamond # 2
Report: GIA
Year: October, 2012
GIA Inscription: No
Carat Weight: 2.03
Shape & Cutting Style: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 8.17 – 8.20 x 5.00 mm
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VVS2
Clarity Characteristics: Pinpoints (4 in count), Cloud
Cut Grade: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Depth: 61.1 %
Table: 57 %
Crown Angle: 34°
Crown Height: 14.5 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0 %
Star length: 50 %
Lower Half: 80 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick (Faceted) 3.5%
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium Blue

HCA Score: 1.0 - Excellent, within TIC range
HCA Light Return: Excellent
HCA Fire: Excellent
HCA Scintillation: Excellent
HCA Spread: Very Good

Does it look a bit better in specs on paper, as compared to the other one (already mentioned above in my first post) with the following specs?...

Diamond # 1
Report: GIA
Year: October, 2014
GIA Inscription: Yes
Carat Weight: 2.05
Shape & Cutting Style: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 8.18 – 8.20 x 4.97 mm
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VVS1
Clarity Characteristics: Pinpoints (5 in count)
Cut Grade: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Depth: 60.7 %
Table: 58 %
Crown Angle: 33.5°
Crown Height: 14.0 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0 %
Star length: 45 %
Lower Half: 75 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick (Faceted) 3.5%
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium Blue

HCA Score: 1.0 - Excellent, within TIC range
HCA Light Return: Excellent
HCA Fire: Excellent
HCA Scintillation: Excellent
HCA Spread: Very Good

:think: :think: :think:
 
It's worth a further look, I'd say! It has promise. Next step is to get images (Ideal-Scope/ASET).
 
I actually got images for both of the diamonds that I have mentioned in my earlier post. 4 Images for Diamond #1 and 1 Real Image for Diamond #2. Details and Images are as shown below...

Diamond # 1
Report: GIA
Year: October, 2014
GIA Inscription: Yes
Carat Weight: 2.05
Shape & Cutting Style: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 8.18 – 8.20 x 4.97 mm
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VVS1
Clarity Characteristics: Pinpoints (5 in count)
Cut Grade: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Depth: 60.7 %
Table: 58 %
Crown Angle: 33.5°
Crown Height: 14.0 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0 %
Star length: 45 %
Lower Half: 75 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick (Faceted) 3.5%
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
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HCA Score: 1.0 - Excellent, within TIC range
HCA Light Return: Excellent
HCA Fire: Excellent
HCA Scintillation: Excellent
HCA Spread: Very Good
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Real Image:
http://s12.postimg.org/lb6wo4ufh/Diamond_1_Real_Image.jpg

ASET Image:
http://s3.postimg.org/5hgkjpa4j/Diamond_1_Aset_Image.jpg

Ideal Scope Image:
http://s6.postimg.org/nbbrtgrk1/Diamond_1_Ideal_Scope.jpg

Hearts:
http://s3.postimg.org/gywxb5q4j/Diamond_1_Hearts.jpg

Arrows:
http://s21.postimg.org/7y0gixspj/Diamond_1_Arrows.jpg


Diamond #2
Report: GIA
Year: October, 2012
GIA Inscription: No
Carat Weight: 2.03
Shape & Cutting Style: Round Brilliant
Measurements: 8.17 – 8.20 x 5.00 mm
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VVS2
Clarity Characteristics: Pinpoints (4 in count), Cloud
Cut Grade: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Depth: 61.1 %
Table: 57 %
Crown Angle: 34°
Crown Height: 14.5 %
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0 %
Star length: 50 %
Lower Half: 80 %
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick (Faceted) 3.5%
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
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HCA Score: 1.0 - Excellent, within TIC range
HCA Light Return: Excellent
HCA Fire: Excellent
HCA Scintillation: Excellent
HCA Spread: Very Good
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Real Image:
http://s7.postimg.org/69ggg9eaj/Diamond_2_Real_Image.jpg


As I have mentioned in my earlier post, Diamond # 2 (H-VVS2 above) is costing $2400 more than Diamond #1 (H-VVS1). By looking at these images now, is it worth to spend those extra $2400? :think: :think: :think:
 
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