How big will this look?

[scott32]

First off, I am looking for an exceptionally well cut stone in the 1.5-2.0 range. My soon to be fiance works in the health care profession, and I do not want it to be too ostentatious. I have a 1.81 ct H VVS2 AGS 0 H & A that I have my eye on, and plan on setting in a solitaire setting. I am purchasing the stone loose, so I will need to find someone to set it. Perhaps MM. She is 115lbs and has a size 5.5 finger. How big will this look on her. SHould I go closer to a 1.5 and step up the color for the same price? I think 2ct will ldef look too big. SHe spends some time working with residents and in the clinic which is composed of uninsured pts who get free care and have very little income. THoughts?? Oh, and the H? I was thing of not going below a G or even an F. Her sister has a 2ct D, VS1 but not of ideal proportions. close though. I am sure she will hold her stone up to it. At Tiffany''s, I could not consistently tell the difference between an D and an H in a 2ct, though there was a 30000 price difference. Even side by side it was VERY hard. THanks tons..got about a month to get this together. I may just grab that stone this weekend....

 

[Mara]

a 1.81 on a size 5.5 finger i think is a great size, esp if you feel like 2c is too big. i personally like bigger so i love the idea of a 1.81 instead of a 1.5, but i''m sure that anything between 1.5 and 2 for a non-ostentatious look would be fine. go with your gut, you know her best and know what she likes. good luck!

 

[decodelighted]

It sounds PERFECT!!!! Have it set very, very low though ... not so low that a wedding band can''t sit flush, but as low as it can go. You might even buy the wedding band at the same time as prices are so crazy right now (if you''re thinking platinum).

I have a GIA H in a much more open cut shape (shows more color) and I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT - wouldn''t trade for "F" or "D" or anything! With an Ideal Cut RB --- you probably won''t see a dif. at all between her sister''s D ... and the cut is gonna blow it away and make it look larger than the 2 carat ..

COME BACK WITH PIX, YA HEAR!!!!??

 

[diamondlove]

hi Scott,

My bf and I just went through a similar comparison between an I/H vs. F/G and we went with the I because it was a really white I and due to the brilliance of the H&A/ideal cut it sparkled so much the color wasn''t even an issue AT ALL once I saw it in person.

I COULD see a difference in color if I put the stone next to a D or E color but that''s if you are looking at it right next to each other but not if you are just eyeballing it by itself.

There are people who are more color sensitive than I am but I did do a lot of research bc the bf wanted to make sure I couldn''t tell a difference so I also went to Tiffany''s and a few other stores and I couldn''t tell a difference when I was at Tiffany''s nor when I was looking at Ideal cut stones that was firey. I COULD tell a difference when I was comparing average/poor cut stones.

hope that helps,

DL

 

[diamondlove]

oops sorry Scott, I forgot to address your primary question about the size. I think it''s a personal preference on what is TOO big but my ring size is a 3.25 and the stone my bf purchased for me is also a 1.81 and I think it is the PERFECT size.

 

[jaz464]

I don''t know about the health care profession but my finger is the same size as hers (5.5), I am 111 pounds, and my diamond is 2 carats, plus a halo. NOT too big.

 

[FireGoddess]

I think the size is great and a low profile (read: not too high) setting would be perfect! About the D versus H side by side thing....I could definitely tell a difference between the 2 side by side in person so....if you can''t perhaps you''re not color sensitive. But is she?

 

[dbgaap]

Any way you can get her input? For me I''d rather have the smaller stone with the higher color.
But I would not turn away the stone you have described!!!
It sounds very nice and not too big.

 

[SuzyQZ]

Date: 6/21/2006 12:29:59 PM
Author:scott32
First off, I am looking for an exceptionally well cut stone in the 1.5-2.0 range. My soon to be fiance works in the health care profession, and I do not want it to be too ostentatious.
** You can minimize the look of your diamond by setting it low and using a classic simple, non-blingy (read no pave) setting.

I have a 1.81 ct H VVS2 AGS 0 H & A that I have my eye on, and plan on setting in a solitaire setting. I am purchasing the stone loose, so I will need to find someone to set it. Perhaps MM. She is 115lbs and has a size 5.5 finger. How big will this look on her.
** I''m 5''4", 120lbs and size 5.5. I have a 1.47 princess cut solitare that looks perfect. Not too big, not too small.

SHould I go closer to a 1.5 and step up the color for the same price?
** I''d step up the color only if you think she''ll be able to tell the difference. An AGS 0 in an "H" color should be just spectacular! And will hide the subtle color differences.

I think 2ct will def look too big.
** If she thinks 2cts is too big, then it''s too big. Personally I think a 2ct is a perfectly normal size, not ostentatious at all! But you want to give her something she''s comfortable with. Just remember that diamonds have a tendency to "shrink" in size as the wearer gets used to them. What starts out as being the biggest ring ever, somehow manages to become "average" very quickly.

SHe spends some time working with residents and in the clinic which is composed of uninsured pts who get free care and have very little income. THoughts??
** Go low key on the setting to minimize the bling effect.

Oh, and the H? I was thing of not going below a G or even an F. Her sister has a 2ct D, VS1 but not of ideal proportions. close though. I am sure she will hold her stone up to it. At Tiffany''s, I could not consistently tell the difference between an D and an H in a 2ct, though there was a 30000 price difference. Even side by side it was VERY hard.
** Are you color sensitive? Is she? If you can''t see the differences in diamond colors very easily, you are like many (dare I say most?) people. If you want to "hedge" your bet go up to a "G". How important is it to you (read $$$) that it be a D, E or F?? Especially when you, and most others won''t be able to tell the difference. Your exceptionally cut diamond is what helps you tremendously in the color dept.! You can always send to an appraiser and pay a little extra for some big piece of mind.

THanks tons..got about a month to get this together. I may just grab that stone this weekend....
** My caveat: I''m just an average Joe. No expert, just a diamond lover, so this is just MHO.
Good luck on your purchase, I''m looking forward to seeing your pictures!

 

[scott32]

The 1.81 is an Isee2 with a score of 9.5, three highs on the gemex report. it has some major bling. on the helium all angles of both pavillion and crown vary by only .1mm. It is an exceptionally cut stone. I was close to purchasing a 1.78 8star, but it was very pricey. This stone may actually look better if not as good. Now, I can see the difference in a loose stone between a D and H. However, I spent 2 hours intiffany''s with an appointment. She loves the tiffany setting, and i almost went with a 2 ct g vs1. price though was steep. for what i thought was a well cut stone, but certainly not "super" ideal proportions. Now, we loked at a 2ct D, and I think it was something like 75grand. also looked at an I 2 carot that was 27grand. side by side you could tell a difference, not easily. one at a time....I was 50%. worth a 50 grand price difference?? So that is where I learned that if the stone is cut to the extremes of an ideal cut, it can face up very well. now, on the streets in the diamond district, I could see the difference plain as day between a d and an f, on shitty cut stones...but start asking those guys about pavillion angles/ idealscopes/brilliancescopes etc, and they start to get a confused look on their face. Ask for an extremely well cut AGS 0, and you have to make an appt to come back when they get their hands on one........
Thanks for all the input...I really like the looks of the 1.81....set in a MM platinum?? I think it could be good.....I''ll think about the 2ct though............

 

[kevinyonker]

Several months ago I read an interesting post on how to mathmatically determine the most visually aesthetically pleasing
carat size for different finger sizes. It''s a mathmatical relationship that is consistently found in many beautiful
things. It''s PHI or the Golden Ratio. The proportion or ratio is 1: 1.618.

Using this ratio, you find that most prefer larger carat diamonds than the ratio says is perfect. That being said, beauty
is in the eye of the beholder and to many...bigger is better.

Kevin

 

[decodelighted]

Date: 6/23/2006 12:32:11 PM
Author: kevinyonker
Several months ago I read an interesting post on how to mathmatically determine the most visually aesthetically pleasing carat size for different finger sizes. It''s a mathmatical relationship that is consistently found in many beautiful things. It''s PHI or the Golden Ratio. The proportion or ratio is 1: 1.618.

That''s so interesting ... how does the formula work, with the numerical "ring size" (probably not, huh). Finger width in MM? DO TELL

... not that I''ll ever be able to afford the "desired proportions" for my meat sausages.

 

[kevinyonker]

Here is an example for a size 6 finger

Size 6 = 16.5mm diameter

finger diameter/ finger diameter - diamond diameter

for a size 6 finger, Phi says 6.3mm diamond looks most pleasing

16.5 / 16.5 - 6.3 = 10.2

16.5 / 10.2 = 1.618

 

[decodelighted]

I gotta find a chart for finger diameter - though I know I won't like what it'll tell me.

ETA: I dunno ... now it seems a little weird to me ... ring size MM is "all the way around the finger" The stone only gets seen comparatively to the width as seen from the top. Hmmmm.

EETA: OOOPS. My bad .. I was confusing diameter with circumfrence.