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I''ve been lurking here for quite some time, and I think it''s time I actually asked a few questions I have. Here goes - I''m looking at doing a custom project (my first) for an e-ring, but she really doesn''t know anything yet. We''ve talked a few times, been together for 7 years, etc., but I''m struggling with the all-important size question. I wanted to do something a bit different, and I found someone who does some settings I like and has sourced a few stones (before I stumbled on this forum). These are more avant-garde cut aquamarines, cut by someone I think may have been mentioned once here before... but I can''t decide (and I''m hesitant to post pictures as I haven''t purchased one yet...).

One is roughly 3.3 carats and around 9.5 mm, while the other is more like 1 carat and 6 mm (mostly square), and one of these two is certainly the one... but which one? How do I decide? I can''t really see them in person, but I have been provided with several images and comparison shots with other stones, a dime, etc. The larger one is extremely awesome, and the larger size shows off more of the cutting. The smaller one has slightly better color, but might be more of a not-so-in-your-face size (though still awesomely cut). I''ve purchased jewelry for her before, and my gut has been right, and these are pretty much perfect. The problem is she has always said she doesn''t want a huge rock (currently wears like a 0.35 carat-ish sapphire, size 7), and my gut says the bigger one might be too big. However, I slyly got her to tell me what she thought of a 10 mm piece of paper (roughly the size of the bigger stone) on top of the current ring on her finger, and she said, "oh, well that''s not too big." I would just ask her to look at some pics or go try some rings on, but she LOVES surprises, and this is something I think she''d prefer to be in the dark about. This would likely be the largest stone of any of her friends/coworkers, but she doesn''t much care what they think anyway.

So how do I choose? I''m afraid it might look even bigger when set (it will be a tension-looking channel setting) than it did just as a piece of white notecard taped on top of her current ring. Do I go with my gut which has been right before? Do I trust what she said (even though she may have been slightly intoxicated for this trickery...
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)? It really does have to be one of these 2 stones, as I have never seen and likely will never see anything like them (and I''m thinking of buying them both to incorporate the other into a ring for me
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). I think this also pretty much has to be a surprise. She''s the type that also really wouldn''t say a word either way, wouldn''t want to return or exchange, and would "deal with" whatever qualms she might have as she hates shopping for jewelry. This probably boils down to a can''t-go-wrong type situation, but how do I go most right? Any advice, thoughts and/or opinions would be most appreciated (and yes, I''ll make sure you''re all updated with all the pics you can handle when the time comes). Thanks!
 
Are they the same shape, and does she have a preference when it comes to shape? Does she know you''re buying a CS e-ring?
 
Both are roughly square (the larger is bit more rectangular), which she likes, and she has expressed that she would indeed like a CS e-ring (blue happens to be her favorite color, in fact) if an e-ring were to ever appear down the line.
 
Awwww what a lovely post!

Well, she''s used to a fairly small gemstone and a leap to a 10mm stone (which is big even for us gemstone junkies) might be a little too much. Seeing a piece of paper in 10mm size on your hand (unless you''re used to gemstone shopping) can be misleading because don''t forget you''ve then got the setting, add in the height of the stone and you''ve got a big ring.

She may also be a little reserved about showing it to co-workers etc if it''s too big. A tension setting also needs a fair bit of metal and usually holds a gem higher than say a prong set ring.

Sooooooooo, why don''t you go for the smaller one for now (after all, colour is king!) and then you can always upgrade to a bigger stone later in life for an anniversary and you can swap the smaller stone to the right hand.
 
Good luck on your engagement! Picking the ring, especially if it''s a surprise is daunting, but is a lot of fun at the same time.

It seems to me that if she tends to like small stones, getting a 3.3 carat stone might not be the best idea. In my experience (I''m a guy) when we try give surprises that are outside of our significant others'' comfort zones it doesn''t go over so well.

I might get the smaller stone especially if the color is better. At the end of the day it''s the color that will be important over size.

Maybe post the pictures of the two, there''s LOTS of people here that will give you really valuable feedback on the stones. Note that you can upload the pics to the site versus adding links to them so you don''t have to worry about someone else buying them
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After some debate, here are the stones in question. I believe these pictures technically belong to Mr. Keith Farley, and these were cut by Mr. Lewis Wackler. Please don''t steal ''em -

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Larger one -

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Very neat gems! I really like the second one because it does show off the cutting much more. LD is right, once its mounted, and three dimensional, it is going to be a pretty big ring. Personally, I do like the larger stone better. However, with a larger ring comes more responsibility, and a greater likelihood of getting knocked around and becoming damaged. Does she have a very active lifestyle, or job?

Can you enlist a girlfriend of hers to help find out if she''d be ok with a large ring?
 
I suppose I hadn't thought about the knocking it around bit too much... I mean, she's active in the sense that she works out and rides a bike now and again, but I wouldn't imagine her to wear it during those times. Normal kinda desk job for now, but possibly going back to school.

And yeah, I personally like the larger one more because of the cutting too, and it would certainly be more easily seen than the smaller. However, the smaller has slightly less green in it (which she would like), and might be more, shall we say practical?

I'd like to involve as few people as possible (although I guess this forum isn't exactly a good start!), and I doubt any girlfriends would be much help here. I don't think they really talk jewelry much.
 
Date: 5/4/2010 6:48:23 PM
Author: IndyLady
Can you enlist a girlfriend of hers to help find out if she''d be ok with a large ring?

This is a GOOD tip! It definitely helped put my mind at ease when I was choosing the e-ring. I did chose the stone and the setting as a surprise and it really took the edge off to have her best friend to approve my choice. Of course the friend has to be able to keep a secret.
 
AB, I just started a somewhat similar thread trying to figure out if a 10 by 10 square stone would be too big: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/asscher-size.142301/
A couple of people posted pictures, which was really helpful. Personally, I do think this size makes for a better cocktail ring than an everyday ring, but it really depends on your preference.
 
Alene, your thread was actually the one that made me start this one! I''ve seen some other pics searching through all these pages trying to get an idea for what it would look like on, and it''s just too close to call. Some pictures make me think it will be fine (like chrono''s cushion/halo pic from your thread), but some make me think it will be too big (like colorluvr''s sapp on your thread). It seems that every other time I try to choose I find a picture that swings me the other way.
 
In my *personal* opnion (and speaking from firsthand experience), I think CS e-rings work best when they have roughly the same coverage as a 1.5ish ct diamond. Any bigger than that, and it starts to looks less expensive, less e-ring-like. I actually wish my tourmaline were smaller, both for this reason and because it''s a bit cumbersome for everyday wear. If I ever design a ring to wear every single day, it will definitely be smaller (less than 7.5mm), a sapphire/spinel/chrysoberyl and a lower, simpler setting. Something I can stare at all day, but also something I can forget about...

I also think, as others have mentioned, that aqua might be too soft for everyday use. I wore my tourmaline everyday for only a couple of years and it definitely needs to be repolished already.

I REALLY love that faceting, though. I''ve never seen anything like it. Beautiful!
 
Incidentally, I actually like the smaller one better...
 
Firstly I wouldn''t consider an aqua for an e-ring. Just not that kind of durable. But you say it has to be one of these two stones. SO, I would buy them both. Put the smaller one in the e-ring being careful to chose a protective setting. Then I would have the larger one made into a pendant and give it to her as a wedding gift. And those are really special stones.
 
Date: 5/4/2010 8:26:27 PM
Author: velouriaL
In my *personal* opnion (and speaking from firsthand experience), I think CS e-rings work best when they have roughly the same coverage as a 1.5ish ct diamond. Any bigger than that, and it starts to looks less expensive, less e-ring-like.

Interesting point! I agree, though it also depends on the setting and the overall feel of the ring.
 
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