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Hmmmm ... a new additional explanation why Epstein may have not committed suicide

kenny

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I've always suspected one of the many and rich powerful scumbag men, who screwed girls provided by Epstein, ordered Epstein's murder to look like suicide.

But now ...

Hmm ...

 

kenny

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FWIW my brother was murdered in prison when I was 19.
No joke.

Later I happened to have a college professor, who's thesis happened to be on mafia-connected murders carried out in prisons.
When he revealed this I stayed after class for a chat.
He told me (after I explained all the details) that my brother was almost-certainly murdered, and the prison system, as usual, reported it as a suicide.
Happens all the time.
This is was my dad thought; he had also spent time in prison.

Prison employees and prison big wigs (who do not like losing their jobs/careers) have vastly-inappropriate power/freedom to control the information that their prison releases about prisoner deaths.
 
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YadaYadaYada

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Well whatever the case, I’m just glad he is gone.
 

pearlsngems

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I'm sorry you lost your brother, Kenny.
Mine died too, way too young.
 

kenny

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Thanks, and I'm also sorry for your loss. :nono:
 

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I absolutely think he was murdered and maybe this guy was paid to do it. Not sure what other motive you think he would have had.
We used to own a home in St. John and everyone called it Pedophile Island. Both were recently sold to a STJ resident and hedge fund guy and a hotel will be built on the property.
 

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This guy couldn’t have done it as he was transferred to a different prison before Epstein was found hanged.
 

kenny

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Thanks lonysis. ;))
 

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The one person I knew - very tangentially - who was accused of molesting children committed suicide after his arrest and before his trial. So, to me, Jeffrey Epstein’s death by suicide seemed entirely plausible when I first heard about it, and it still seems entirely plausible now.

Why? Any adult who molests or abused children is de facto exhibiting a measure of cowardice - engaging in sexual acts with people who aren’t able to reject them. To me that’s equally true of many if not most teenage girls - and very likely the girls Epstein trafficked to his friends were chosen because of their vulnerability and inability to say “no.” Committing suicide rather than facing either a trial or jail time can also be an act of cowardice. A quick google search shows that accused and convicted sex offenders have higher rates of suicide than prisoners generally - which in turn have higher rates of suicide than the population in general - even when mental illness does not seem to be a factor. Jeffery committing suicide makes more sense to me than a complex conspiracy theory.
 

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I think he was murdered, but I also think we will never know for sure.
It can be certain that some people who had the power to have it done wanted him dead.
@VRBeauty makes a good point also.
We will never know for sure.
 

Ionysis

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I definitely think it’s plausible that he was offed. But I doubt we will ever find out. I also imagine there are a huge number of other rich and well known figures who were “beneficiaries” of Epstein’s lifestyle.

I recently watched a documentary on Jimmy Saville which was fascinating and horrifying in equal measure. The fact that he was able to offend with impunity for decades and held to be a national treasure is mind blowing.
 
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