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All 3 have strong IS images, but I prefer the first 2. I like the the make of #2 the best cause it has the fatter arrows but IS shows very slight leakage that is probably not visible IRL (or it could be photo set up differences) and is slightly bigger. The inclusions for the #2 are nice ones to have (not typically impacting light performance, like twinning wisps or clouds).
 
luvdajules|1424877599|3837973 said:
All 3 have strong IS images, but I prefer the first 2. I like the the make of #2 the best cause it has the fatter arrows but IS shows very slight leakage that is probably not visible IRL (or it could be photo set up differences) and is slightly bigger. The inclusions for the #2 are nice ones to have (not typically impacting light performance, like twinning wisps or clouds).
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I was just curious what is the benefit of having fatter arrows? Thanks.
 
larger, bolder color flashes when lighting conditions are conducive. Just my particular flavor preference. You have to look at many diamonds IRL with different cut types to see what your eyes like.
 
luvdajules|1424882206|3838011 said:
larger, bolder color flashes when lighting conditions are conducive. Just my particular flavor preference. You have to look at many diamonds IRL with different cut types to see what your eyes like.
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Thanks for explaining : ) So far I have compared good cut GIA, excellent cut GIA, 60/60 and Hearts and Arrows Ideal. I strongly prefer the H & A but I don't know much beyond that. It's interesting to hear about different preferences that more experienced people have.
 
Bump for the afternoon crew (haha) as I have 24 hours to purchase one. Just looking for some more opinions. Thanks for yours, luvdajules.
 
I agree with the first two. I agree with everything luvdajules said actually haha. The first looks slightly stronger, but I prefer the fatter arrows. Heres a video that shows the difference. There should be a few more on there if you look around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9FtRj_IG9Y
 
Thanks again for the help. Bumping for night crew.

One question - what makes #3 not a good choice (assuming this based on the opinions that 1 & 2 were chosen twice).
 
By looking at the images, 1&2 looks great to me. However, pay careful attention to the inclusions, and pick the one with less dangerous inclusions. Also, run both through HCA tool here on the website.
Let us know which one you will end up getting :)
We are in process of picking a diamond now too, but I mostly look in stores locally. Have read so much, I'm afraid it will take me long to find the perfect one lol
 
In #3 surface graining would bother me. I don't believe a diamond with that carat weight can cost 6500. No less that 7600. Suspicious. Probably, it's not eye clean , and the graining is another contributor to why it's not a good option. .
 
kkcat|1424910210|3838267 said:
In #3 surface graining would bother me. I don't believe a diamond with that carat weight can cost 6500. No less that 7600. Suspicious. Probably, it's not eye clean , and the graining is another contributor to why it's not a good option. .
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Is your claim that surface graining on a GIA-graded VS1 stone affects performance in any way?

It doesn't. The stone is eye-clean. I don't need to look at any reports or details about the inclusions.

If the stone is a GIA-graded VS1 it is eye-clean from 10" (and likely much closer) - 100% of the time.
 
kkcat|1424909899|3838265 said:
By looking at the images, 1&2 looks great to me. However, pay careful attention to the inclusions, and pick the one with less dangerous inclusions. Also, run both through HCA tool here on the website.
Let us know which one you will end up getting :)
We are in process of picking a diamond now too, but I mostly look in stores locally. Have read so much, I'm afraid it will take me long to find the perfect one lol
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The HCA isn't necessarily required. We already know based on the idealscopes that they are good performers. Also, vs1 stones won't have issues with dangerous inclusions.


In general I like the idealscope from 1 best...BUT off looking at the actual video I like 2. Plus put me down as another one who prefers fatter arrows. So I myself would pick 2. But whichever works best doe your budget or whichever your eyes prefer.
 
HCA scores

#229 - 0.6 (I obtained the GIA Cert from a J.A. Rep)
#395 - 1.6
#456 - 1.0

Still trying to figure out why #456 (Scope #3) is so inexpensive, relatively speaking.
 
Good to know it does not. Thank you for the input.
 
Thanks! Live and learn!
And as I see, topic starter checked the HCA anyways, and the score came out fine. Long live ASET images!
 
Looks like it will be #1 or #3.... Any last minute thoughts? You guys/gals have been great. Thanks!!!
 
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#1 for me too.
 
I went with #1 (229229). Thanks to everyone who offered their opinion and advice. I will do my best to post some pics when it arrives in a few weeks, for anyone that is interested.
 
bp1|1424965818|3838504 said:
I went with #1 (229229). Thanks to everyone who offered their opinion and advice. I will do my best to post some pics when it arrives in a few weeks, for anyone that is interested.
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With which setting?

Eta I read on another post of hours you went with the cheapest pave setting? I'd advise against that. The price is low because ir does not have a lot of pave. I don't think you'll be happy with it IRL.

I'd maybe suggest this one if you can swing it?

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/james-allen-exclusive-engagement-ring-item-49519
 
Yes, it was that cheapest setting. The one thing the GF mentioned (showed me) was that she did not like the pave with cathedral style, and the one I purchased was as close to a pic she showed me - just minimal/tiny diamonds along the side. Thanks for looking out for me, Niel.
 
Why do you mention that? Is it going to look cheap?
 
bp1|1424972617|3838558 said:
Why do you mention that? Is it going to look cheap?
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I'm afraid so.

Just take a really good look at all the actual photos of that ring. If you're happy that's what matters,but I imagine it might disappoint when holding such a beautiful diamond. If you're happy with those photos though ignore me. Worse case you're always able to return that setting.

They are reasonable with custom designs too. Maybe ask if they could make that one I posted but without a cathedral? I think that may look more like what you're going for.
 
Thanks again, Niel....I really appreciate the discussion/advice. I will speak with JA about a few things and move forward from there.
 
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