Help - what cut is this?

[xiao]

Hi all, i''m really new here and would appreciate your help.
What is the cut of the stone in this ring?
Is is a transitional cut or a round brilliant?
Does it look good to you?
Thanks!

 

[xiao]

Here''s another picture.
Sorry, but I don''t know how to post multiple photos.

 

[neatfreak]

Not sure...have any closer pictures?

 

[Kaleigh]

Not sure either, but sure is gorgeous.

 

[xiao]

There are only pictures from the side.
But i agree that the ring is gorgeous!

 

[jstarfireb]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the table looks a little big for a transitional cut, so it would have to be RB, but perhaps not a well cut one? Right?

 

[oldminer]

Diamonds transitioning from Old European cut to Modern cut may have quite large tables, but they generally have small to no culet facet. They tend to be shallow rather than overly deep, too. Otherwise, transition cuts are much the same as modern cut diamonds with the exception that the proportions were not what we''d call very good today.l

This diamond looks like a modern cut, but maybe it is partially a transition cut. Without a closer look, we really can''t tell. The mounting is lovely and could be from the 1920''s or as modern as a recently made reproduction. The prongs look very fresh so either it was not worn much, was rebuilt nicely, or is relatively new. It is difficult to tell from here.

The term "transition cut" is dangerously mis-used frequently. There are diamonds which transition from Old Mine cut to Old European cut,, and from Old European Cut to Modern cut. There are a lot of years between the two periods and one should always define the transition one is referring to. Transition Cut alone is not a cut or a period in time without the complete definition being used.

 

[strmrdr]

RB in a cast reproduction setting.

 

[oldminer]

Strmrdr;

To give an off-hand opinion like you have just done is at best thoughtless and at worst potentially damaging to a legitimate seller and their customer. How do you know how old the mounting is? How do you know when the diamond was cut or what period it represents? The photos are inadequate for this. You are considered an expert by many here, so maybe it would be nice to see you temper your wonderful willingness to advise with an expert''s committment to base advice only on solid facts. Please don''t take this the wrong way. You are one of the good guys!!!

 

[strmrdr]

Dave,
The stone is a educated guess but the setting is not.
I know someone in person who has that exact repro setting with the exact same defects.
The odds of a period piece having the exact same defects as the repro are pretty much impossible.

 

[oldminer]

If you express that your "opinion" is based on "odds" or that you''d "bet" it was a reporduction, then you are giving advice on a consumer to consumer level. People can take it for what it is worth, a conjecture. When you are absolute in your response, then there does not seem to be any "odds" or conjecture in your response. For an expert, this is a definite no-no. How do you wish to be preceived by readers here? Are you an expert or a well versed consumer. A consumer is allowed to throw out off-hand opinions, but experts should avoid betting, guesswork and odds. If you make it clear in a post that you are making a judgment with a margin of error possible, then it is okay. The way you gave your advice earlier was absolute and not up to expert standards. I''m sure you understand. I''m not nit-picking for the pleasure of it. Once you commit to "expert" status you have a higher level of responsibility with your advice. It remains your choice, but let consumers know from what level you are advising....

 

[strmrdr]

Hi Dave,
I get what your saying.
I should have posted why I thought the way I did in the first post.

To answer the question I don''t know how I want to be seen around here at this point but a well versed consumer is still my status at this time.

 

[oldminer]

No problem..... Keep on doing your thing. We love it!...

 

[xiao]

Oops..didn''t mean to start anything guys..
Anyhow, I really appreciate your expert opinions!

I saw this ring on Ebay and it was described as an antique 1930s platinum ring.
I was unsure of the stone since it didn''t really look like the modern RB, so I came here to see if anyone could help.
I was tempted by this ring, but decided to hold out to find the perfect stone in the perfect setting....but that''s for for another post

 

[jstarfireb]

Date: 11/13/2008 8:31:06 PM
Author: oldminer
Diamonds transitioning from Old European cut to Modern cut may have quite large tables, but they generally have small to no culet facet. They tend to be shallow rather than overly deep, too. Otherwise, transition cuts are much the same as modern cut diamonds with the exception that the proportions were not what we''d call very good today.

Oh, good to know! I always thought the table was smaller, like an OEC.

 

[denverappraiser]

Using the high tech method of a ruler on the monitor, that looks like about a 55% table, give or take a few,I see no culet at all and I see eightfold symmetry with both crown and pavilion brillianteering. The LGF look to be a little short for modern tastes but that all sounds like a modern round brilliant.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 11/14/2008 4:02:35 PM
Author: xiao
Oops..didn''t mean to start anything guys..

Don''t worry about it despite how it looks I get along with Dave most days and hold him in high regard.

You will find the perfect diamond and setting for you.
It is out there and by being patient you will find it.