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mjalldayeveryday

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I'll try to keep it short. I am in the market for a Gia 3 ct round diamond. My price is around 30k give or take. For that price range I'm probably expecting JSi1 triple ex or Jvs2 if I'm lucky. My problem is i have been trying to find diamonds online and have a jeweler bring them in for me to see, however every diamond i find they say its out of network. I'm using price scope diamond finder and finding diamonds at pretty common sites. Is this something that people usually request or have done? Or am I wasting my time trying to find something and just tell the jeweler to find something?
Thank you for your time,

Mike
 

Gypsy

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Gypsy

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What you need to know to understand our recommendations:

The entire purpose of faceting a diamond is to reflect light.
How well or how poorly a diamond does this determines how beautiful it is.
How well a diamond performs is determined by the angles and cutting. This is why we say cut is king.
No other factor: not color, not clarity has as much of an impact on the appearance of a diamond as its cut. An ideal H will out white a poorly cut F. And GIA Ex is not enough. And you must stick to GIA and AGS only. EGL is a bad option: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/[/URL]
So how to we ensure that we have the right angles and cutting to get the light performance we want in a modern round brilliant?
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut
Well one method is to start with a GIA Ex, and then apply the HCA to it. YOU DO NOT USE HCA for AGS0 stones. Also you want to stick with stones with a crown angle of 34 and over and a pavilion angle of 41 or less with a depth not over 62.4 ideally.
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/holloway-cut-advisor
The HCA is a rejection tool. Not a selection tool. It uses 4 data points to make a rudimentary call on how the diamond may perform.
If the diamond passes then you know that you are in the right zone in terms of angles for light performance. Under 2 is a pass. Under 2.5-2.1 is a maybe. 2.6 and over is a no. No score 2 and under is better than any other.
Is that enough? Not really.
So what you need is a way to check actual light performance of your actual stone.
That's what an idealscope image does. https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/firescope-idealscope
It shows you how and wear your diamond is reflecting light, how well it is going at it, and where you are losing light return. That is why you won't see us recommending Blue Nile, as they do not provide idealscope images for their diamonds. BGD, James Allen, GOG, HPD, ERD and WF do.

The Idealscope is the 'selection tool'. Not the HCA.
So yes, with a GIA stone you need the idealscope images. Or you can buy an idealscope yourself and take it in to the jeweler you are working with to check the stones yourself. Or if you have a good return policy (full refund minimum 7 days) then you can buy the idealscope, buy the stone, and do it at home.


Now if you want to skip all that... stick to AGS0 stones and then all you have to do is pick color and clarity and you know you have a great performing diamond. Because AGS has already done the checking for you. That's why they trade at a premium.
 

Diamond2014

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Why do you want it so big and low in clarity? The bigger it is, the easier to see the clarity, especially with SI2. I think people in general will like a smaller brightness gorgeously cut diamond than huge diamond that looks like a frozen spit.
 

Gypsy

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mjalldayeveryday|1417510780|3793775 said:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R302-H7T8JR?cid=diamondreview

Im a noob at reading is but why does this is reading have white in it instead of black?


Not an IS. It's an arrows image.
 
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