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WorldCup82

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Ok, so I have been scouring the boards for a long time and had a ring picked out but she gave hints that she wanted something different..

So I think I am going to go with the Boreray setting from MaeVona. http://www.maevona.com/mobile/mva23-bor.html
You can also see a video of the setting by going to the webpage and click on bridal jewelry and it should be the 6th one on the bottom. Then click details.
I think I am going to purchase this today from a local jeweler.

However, I am stuck on the diamond.
My budget is approx 4k but could stretch to 5k if absolutely necessary.

Cut: Round Brilliant
Size: Looking at 1 ct
Clarity: I am thinking VS2 should definitely be eye clean, right?
Color: I was primarily thinking about H, but would look at G too.

What should my table % and depth % requirements be? I am not very knowledgeable on these characteristics.. I was searching for a depth of 59%-61% and a table of 52.4%-57.5% . Is this too stringent?

I hope I can purchase a diamond today or tomorrow as I''m going on a trip next week and would love to take it with me..

Thanks for all your responses !!
 
Even at H VS2, I think you'd be looking at closer to 5000 in a brick and mortar.

Try sticking to this:

Cut- Ex (GIA), Ideal (AGS)

Pol EX, VG

Sym EX, VG

Girdle- Thin, Medium, Slightly thick, or a combination thereof

Depth 60-62

Table- 54-58

Culet - Pointed, None, Very small

For GIA, who rounds numbers, use this cheat sheet:

With that said, here's a "Cliff's Notes" for staying near Tolkowsky/ideal angles with GIA reports (their numbers are rounded): A crown angle of 34.0, 34.5 or 35.0 is usually safe with a 40.8 pavilion angle. If pavilion angle = 40.6 lean toward a 34.5-35.0 crown. If pavilion angle = 41 lean toward a 34.0-34.5 crown.

GIA "EX" in cut is great at its heart, but it ranges a bit wider than some people prefer, particularly in deep combinations (pavilion > 41 with crown > 35).


You can also use the HCA to plug in potential stones. Ideally, you want the x to fall in the GIA/AGS overlap.

https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp
 
You won''t really go wrong with any of them. Does either WF or JA have a setting you like? If so, it would be best to use that vendor.

Assuming all are eye-clean, my preference would be
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3
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Did you happen to reserve #1? If not, that one is no longer an option. Sometimes, these move very quickly.

#2 and #3 are pretty similar. Of course, both blow your budget a bit but they look really nice.

I'll give the edge to the Whiteflash one. It's an H, compared to the JA's G but the inclusion plot looks a little better for the Whiteflash. Make sure you get the Pricescope discount and I think the prices will be about the same.

Edit: These things can move quickly. Call to reserve it ASAP while you consider it.

Treefrog
 
I did reserve #1, however, I am not sure I am going to buy it. I put all 3 into the cut calculator and #3 came out the best at 1.4... then #2 and #1 at 1.6

Neither have the setting I am looking for and I think I missed my opportunity as it''s going to take 3-4 weeks to get the ring set from MaeVona
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Date: 7/23/2009 1:48:38 PM
Author: Ellen
The two available left look good. If you want to get the price down a bit more, this one is nice, if eyeclean. Don''t go by pics, must be eyeballed in person. Would get a 2% PS discount off listed price.
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Agreed. Just a mind clean vs. eye clean comment from looking at the certs.
 
WC, with the info you have, you don''t need to run them through the HCA now. The WF ACA stone is some of the best cut. Seriously. And anything under 2 just means it''s a possibility, go get more info, which you already have.
 
Date: 7/23/2009 1:55:56 PM
Author: WorldCup82
I did reserve #1, however, I am not sure I am going to buy it. I put all 3 into the cut calculator and #3 came out the best at 1.4... then #2 and #1 at 1.6

Neither have the setting I am looking for and I think I missed my opportunity as it''s going to take 3-4 weeks to get the ring set from MaeVona
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Were you hoping to propose on your trip next week? It took 3 weeks for mine to come in from Scott Kay once I had the diamond (they set it for me). Wish I had experience/advice to offer you on this but it''s beyond what I know.

As for the diamonds, I agree with Jet''s order. The one Ellen found looks good as well if you really needed to get a little closer to your target $$$ and if they confirm it to be eye clean.

You''ve done your research. It''s just a matter of what criteria is most important to you. If you''re able to stretch a little for the great cut, think #2 or #3. If not, the other 2 are contenders if eye clean to your satisfaction. Actually, a more expert 2nd opinion is needed but I''m not thrilled with the Idealscope image on #1. It looks very uneven. Maybe it was just a bad angle. I don''t know how to determine that.
 
Date: 7/23/2009 2:37:08 PM
Author: treefrog
Were you hoping to propose on your trip next week? It took 3 weeks for mine to come in from Scott Kay once I had the diamond (they set it for me). Wish I had experience/advice to offer you on this but it's beyond what I know.

As for the diamonds, I agree with Jet's order. The one Ellen found looks good as well if you really needed to get a little closer to your target $$$ and if they confirm it to be eye clean.

You've done your research. It's just a matter of what criteria is most important to you. If you're able to stretch a little for the great cut, think #2 or #3. If not, the other 2 are contenders if eye clean to your satisfaction. Actually, a more expert 2nd opinion is needed but I'm not thrilled with the Idealscope image on #1. It looks very uneven. Maybe it was just a bad angle. I don't know how to determine that.
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The diamond is tilted slightly in the IS for #1. If you look, the arrows on the bottom are longer than those on the top. It does contribute to the uneven light return. If the IS image was taken with the diamond perfectly square to the camera, it would be more symmetrical distribution of color. It would probably show slight leakage, even if straight, though not enough to worry about.
 
Wf''s pricing is quite reasonable.
 
I just purchased a beautiful diamond... Now only if they could build the ring and set it in a week
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I''m upset I didn''t get moving faster..
 
Date: 7/23/2009 2:51:57 PM
Author: jet2ks

The diamond is tilted slightly in the IS for #1. If you look, the arrows on the bottom are longer than those on the top. It does contribute to the uneven light return. If the IS image was taken with the diamond perfectly square to the camera, it would be more symmetrical distribution of color. It would probably show slight leakage, even if straight, though not enough to worry about.
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Thanks Jet! I thought that was likely and I see it now.
 
Date: 7/23/2009 3:30:53 PM
Author: WorldCup82
I just purchased a beautiful diamond... Now only if they could build the ring and set it in a week
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I''m upset I didn''t get moving faster..
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Hang in there, you will have a super ring!!!
 
Have you talk with WF? Maybe they can give you some suggestions?

Or use a simple WG setting? After the trip, when the setting is done then set in in the original setting.
 
Date: 7/23/2009 3:30:53 PM
Author: WorldCup82
I just purchased a beautiful diamond... Now only if they could build the ring and set it in a week
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I''m upset I didn''t get moving faster..
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Yes you did! Beautiful choice. Congratulations.

I proposed with a diamond only. Some others have as well. There are clever ways to do it and you could then get her fitted for a ring to avoid resizing if you''re not absolutely sure of her size.

Treefrog
 
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