Help me to pick two side stones

[bluemoon2]

I plan to start a project making a 5 stone ring with a central stone E 1.38cw, two ~0.45cw, and two F/G 0.25cw.

The issue now is so hard to find a matching pair in ~0.45cw E/F/G range, so I expand the search.

With following 2 pairs, which one will you pick? or you will pick neither of them?
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 H 4.91x4.95x3.04 ( Will H in this size next to E show warm from the side view?)
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 G 4.82x4.84x2.97 ( diameter difference in 0.16-0.17mm )

Thanks!!!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I plan to start a project making a 5 stone ring with a central stone E 1.38cw, two ~0.45cw, and two F/G 0.25cw.

The issue now is so hard to find a matching pair in ~0.45cw E/F/G range, so I expand the search.

With following 2 pairs, which one will you pick? or you will pick neither of them?
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 H 4.91x4.95x3.04 ( Will H in this size next to E show warm from the side view?)
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 G 4.82x4.84x2.97 ( diameter difference in 0.16-0.17mm )

Thanks!!!

If my center stone was E, I'd want all the stones to be E-F. G might be okay, but I wouldn't consider H. The two G stones are not nearly close enough in diameter. I'd want the diameters to at least overlap numerically. For example, if the first stone is 4.98x5.01, I'd want the other to be at least 4.95-4.98, as an example.

Who is making the ring? They might be able to source stones for you.

 

[justginger]

I plan to start a project making a 5 stone ring with a central stone E 1.38cw, two ~0.45cw, and two F/G 0.25cw.

The issue now is so hard to find a matching pair in ~0.45cw E/F/G range, so I expand the search.

With following 2 pairs, which one will you pick? or you will pick neither of them?
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 H 4.91x4.95x3.04 ( Will H in this size next to E show warm from the side view?)
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 G 4.82x4.84x2.97 ( diameter difference in 0.16-0.17mm )

Thanks!!!

If my center stone was E, I'd want all the stones to be E-F. G might be okay, but I wouldn't consider H. The two G stones are not nearly close enough in diameter. I'd want the diameters to at least overlap numerically. For example, if the first stone is 4.98x5.01, I'd want the other to be at least 4.95-4.98, as an example.

Who is making the ring? They might be able to source stones for you.

I agree, I'd pass on both of them. E to H is too big of a difference, and that's coming from someone who is fairly bad at seeing color. Even people like me who can't see color is solo diamonds can see it when big color grade differences are paired up side-by-side. And, of course, size difference on the second pair will be obvious to the naked eye. I'd keep looking - looking's half the fun sometimes!

If you're really in love with the G 4.98x5.01, you can always buy it and wait to find a matching partner in the future.

 

[bluemoon2]

Thanks, DiamondSeeker and justginger for sharing your thoughts.

I know my head did not work right last night, so I need your help to sort it out.
After search high and low for near two weeks in E, F, G in ~0.45, I started to expand search criteria..then ...
I think I need to sit back and be patient. Hope to find another G or F to match G 4.98x5.01x3.03 in the coming week.

 

[bluemoon2]

I plan to start a project making a 5 stone ring with a central stone E 1.38cw, two ~0.45cw, and two F/G 0.25cw.

The issue now is so hard to find a matching pair in ~0.45cw E/F/G range, so I expand the search.

With following 2 pairs, which one will you pick? or you will pick neither of them?
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 H 4.91x4.95x3.04 ( Will H in this size next to E show warm from the side view?)
G 4.98x5.01x3.03 G 4.82x4.84x2.97 ( diameter difference in 0.16-0.17mm )

Thanks!!!

I am still waiting for a matching side stone for G 4.98x5.01x3.03 , but no luck yet.

But I do find a F 4.81x4.84x2.94 to pair with G 4.82x4.84x2.97.

My center stone is 7.14-7.18mm, 0.25cw is 4.1mm -- do you think it (7.16mm, 4.82mm, 4.1mm) can be a good graduated proportion?

G 4.82x4.84x2.97 has 34.0, 40.8, 54.7%, 61.4%. lower girdle 76%, HCA 1.0 (ex,ex,ex,vg)
F 4.81x4.84x2.94 has 34.1, 40.7, 56%, 61%, lower girdle 76%, HCA 0.8 (ex,ex,ex,vg)

The question on F/G stone -- Is 34.0 and 34.1 a bit shadow in term of producing fire with combo of pavillion angle 40.8 and 40.7?
The IS image show no leakage.

I appreciate your input -- please chime in.

Thanks

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I really would only do E-F for the side stones. I would not combine 3 colors in a 5 stone ring. I think you'd need a diamond seller to take pictures for you of the stone sizes you are talking about. I am not sure about 4.8 to 4.0 as the sides without seeing them next to a 7.1mm center. Have you seen it?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I am having trouble finding you a matched pair, too, but this one is really nice and you could ask BG if he has any more coming in that might match. Plus they probably have the smaller signature melee for your end stones.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.447-f-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104063703010

 

[bluemoon2]

I really would only do E-F for the side stones. I would not combine 3 colors in a 5 stone ring. I think you'd need a diamond seller to take pictures for you of the stone sizes you are talking about. I am not sure about 4.8 to 4.0 as the sides without seeing them next to a 7.1mm center. Have you seen it?

It's hard to find matching E/F. I expanded searhch to D as well. The two smallest stones will be ACA F/G VS 25pt melee.
I do not think I can avoid 3 colors. The colors in F/G may not bother me. After waiting for a while, I almost wanted to put H on.

I have a 5-stone ring which has stones in 5.05mm, 4.82mm, 4.75mm. But I do not have 25pt. I have 20pt huggis.
So I put the 7.1mm next to ithem. Between 7.1 and 4.8 seems to be ok, but not sure 4.8 and 4.1.
Good point -- I should ask for a picture to help on the size of the side stone.

BTW, I forgot to mention the ring style I am thinking. I like the WF butterflies 3-stone ring for a while, but will make it with 5 stones to add more bling and finger coverage. I think there is one 5 stone ring made in this style belongs to one of PSers.
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/three-stone/3-stone-butterflies-diamond-engagement-ring-230.htm

DS, Should I have concern on 34/34.1 crown angle for possibl less fire than 34.5 for example?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

What are the measurements of your center stone and is it hearts and arrows?

I don't see anything wrong with the 34 crown angles depending on the cut of your center stone.

 

[bluemoon2]

What are the measurements of your center stone and is it hearts and arrows?

I don't see anything wrong with the 34 crown angles depending on the cut of your center stone.

The center stone is the first stone I purchased after PS. It's also 34/40.8 in 1.38cw E VS1, 57%, 61.5%, 75%, GIA 3X, which was purchased a few of years ago from WF, but not ACA. However, it's during the time eligilble for upgrade/free setting etc like ACA stone.
My avatar is this cneter stone E/VS1. WF did a report on this stone which shows crown angle 34.2(34 .0 - 34.6) and pavillion angle 40.7(40.4-40.9), and the IS looks good.

I tried to compare it with 34.5/40.8 stone and other smaller ACA stones on my 5-stone ring. It's hard for me to tell the difference. However I do not trust my eye, so seek input from PSers like you with more experience in cut spec before getting more in 34 ( of course if the the size work out as a side stone).

DS, thanks for checking out the stones for me. I did it every night with past 3 weeks at least - in house or virtual. I saw this nice F too on BG site last night. The side effect of this nightly search may make me getting a pair of bigger studs.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

about the studs!

There is not a thing wrong with your center stone! It is a gorgeous ideal cut! And that makes the 34 crown angles on side stones very well matched to the center stone!

Since you are going with WF .25's for the ends, have you asked them if they are expecting more small stones and can they get some in E-F color for you???

What about this one? The only reason I didn't suggest it before was because I couldn't find a match! I always look at WF first for matched pairs because that is where I always find studs!

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2572.htm

 

[bluemoon2]

about the studs!

There is not a thing wrong with your center stone! It is a gorgeous ideal cut! And that makes the 34 crown angles on side stones very well matched to the center stone!

Since you are going with WF .25's for the ends, have you asked them if they are expecting more small stones and can they get some in E-F color for you???

What about this one? The only reason I didn't suggest it before was because I couldn't find a match! I always look at WF first for matched pairs because that is where I always find studs!

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2572.htm

I saw the one you posted -- the center of the IS shows a bit less pink or leakage, so passed it. I have already waited for around of new stones. Unfortunately, none in the size/coloe I want. All new stones are on the site already.