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Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomorrow

Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

I just received idealscope iamge for the 1.25 H VS2 AGS that I reserved.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.25-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2430897

1_495.jpg

Compare to the Diamond A 1.24 H VS2 GIA (JA true hearts) that you reviewed before
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.24-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2336290

diamond_a_-_is_0.jpg
diamond_a_-_ha.jpg

Which one should I choose? JA is asking me if I want to complete the exchange from the 1.24 H VS2 GIA to 1.25 H VS2 AGS.

Please advise. Thanks!
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

The only reservation about the GIA diamond is the poor washed out arrows. If they can retake a photo that doesn't have washed out arrows and it was just a photography issue, I'd probably take the GIA stone. They both look great.
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

NewComer99|1486507028|4125650 said:
I just received idealscope iamge for the 1.25 H VS2 AGS that I reserved.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.25-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2430897

1_495.jpg

Compare to the Diamond A 1.24 H VS2 GIA (JA true hearts) that you reviewed before
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.24-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2336290

diamond_a_-_is_0.jpg
diamond_a_-_ha.jpg

Which one should I choose? JA is asking me if I want to complete the exchange from the 1.24 H VS2 GIA to 1.25 H VS2 AGS.

Please advise. Thanks!

Hmm, tough choice as both IS images look good. What is the price differential between the two?

For me, I would still take the AGS graded stone over the GIA one.
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

The price is almost the same. GIA is $8500 and AGS is $8560. Thanks for advise. I will choose AGS.
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

NewComer99|1486529988|4125820 said:

For the additional $2k, I'm not seeing that much of an additional difference between the 1.25 and that 1.31. I'd rather put the $2k difference to the setting instead. Or take my wife for a nice dinner/weekend out with that not insignificant amount of change.

That 1.31 also has a rather large difference between minimum and maximum diameter if the stone as well compared with the 1.25 which is a little more circular in shape.
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

bmfang|1486531004|4125824 said:
NewComer99|1486529988|4125820 said:

For the additional $2k, I'm not seeing that much of an additional difference between the 1.25 and that 1.31. I'd rather put the $2k difference to the setting instead. Or take my wife for a nice dinner/weekend out with that not insignificant amount of change.

That 1.31 also has a rather large difference between minimum and maximum diameter if the stone as well compared with the 1.25 which is a little more circular in shape.

I thought the AGS was more expensive than the GIA stone, fair enough. Personally I'd not just buy the AGS stone because of the certificate, it is not automatically better. The JA gemologist can give a better opinion comparing both true hearts at the same time in hand. The difference between them is probably minimal as I'm convinced the photography is the issue with the GIA stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2163073 this is 300 dollars more
But I certainly would pick the 1.31 HVS1 stone noted before for nearly the same price. That also has a slight difference in measurements (0.06mm ) which has not translated into any negative findings on the IS scope (there is a
thread that compares IS scopes of stones that have less diameter but can't find it at present) and the hearts and arrows is great. This is not a reason to avoid a stone in my opinion. For whatever sake if the OP wants to trade in the stone somewhere else in the future or sell it, the difference between vs1 and vs2 in clarity grade is certainly more significant than the visually innocuous 0.06mm difference in roundness.

I can really find no reason why you'd pick one over the other, unless the gemologist said, the hvs2 has more scintillation and fire for example. From the information provided, with a small price difference and a better grade, why go for the smaller (minimally I agree) and lesser graded stone?

I understand you are referring to a different 1.31 stone but the discussion points are the same otherwise
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

gm89uk|1486542689|4125855 said:
bmfang|1486531004|4125824 said:
NewComer99|1486529988|4125820 said:

For the additional $2k, I'm not seeing that much of an additional difference between the 1.25 and that 1.31. I'd rather put the $2k difference to the setting instead. Or take my wife for a nice dinner/weekend out with that not insignificant amount of change.

That 1.31 also has a rather large difference between minimum and maximum diameter if the stone as well compared with the 1.25 which is a little more circular in shape.

I thought the AGS was more expensive than the GIA stone, fair enough. Personally I'd not just buy the AGS stone because of the certificate, it is not automatically better. The JA gemologist can give a better opinion comparing both true hearts at the same time in hand. The difference between them is probably minimal as I'm convinced the photography is the issue with the GIA stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2163073 this is 300 dollars more
But I certainly would pick the 1.31 HVS1 stone noted before for nearly the same price. That also has a slight difference in measurements (0.06mm ) which has not translated into any negative findings on the IS scope (there is a
thread that compares IS scopes of stones that have less diameter but can't find it at present) and the hearts and arrows is great. This is not a reason to avoid a stone in my opinion. For whatever sake if the OP wants to trade in the stone somewhere else in the future or sell it, the difference between vs1 and vs2 in clarity grade is certainly more significant than the visually innocuous 0.06mm difference in roundness.

I can really find no reason why you'd pick one over the other, unless the gemologist said, the hvs2 has more scintillation and fire for example. From the information provided, with a small price difference and a better grade, why go for the smaller (minimally I agree) and lesser graded stone?

I understand you are referring to a different 1.31 stone but the discussion points are the same otherwise

Your points are fair enough gm89uk. Have been learning whenever I've been reading your responses. Both of us are in agreement on this though (I think): we wish the OP to be able to pull the trigger on a stone of their choosing after due consideration of all of our suggestions and comments.
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

Congrats! :D Did you end up getting a setting as well through JA or are you getting the stone set somewhere else?
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

bmfang|1486552678|4125869 said:
gm89uk|1486542689|4125855 said:
bmfang|1486531004|4125824 said:
NewComer99|1486529988|4125820 said:

For the additional $2k, I'm not seeing that much of an additional difference between the 1.25 and that 1.31. I'd rather put the $2k difference to the setting instead. Or take my wife for a nice dinner/weekend out with that not insignificant amount of change.

That 1.31 also has a rather large difference between minimum and maximum diameter if the stone as well compared with the 1.25 which is a little more circular in shape.

I thought the AGS was more expensive than the GIA stone, fair enough. Personally I'd not just buy the AGS stone because of the certificate, it is not automatically better. The JA gemologist can give a better opinion comparing both true hearts at the same time in hand. The difference between them is probably minimal as I'm convinced the photography is the issue with the GIA stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2163073 this is 300 dollars more
But I certainly would pick the 1.31 HVS1 stone noted before for nearly the same price. That also has a slight difference in measurements (0.06mm ) which has not translated into any negative findings on the IS scope (there is a
thread that compares IS scopes of stones that have variable
diameter but can't find it at present) and the hearts and arrows is great. This is not a reason to avoid a stone in my opinion. For whatever sake if the OP wants to trade in the stone somewhere else in the future or sell it, the difference between vs1 and vs2 in clarity grade is certainly more significant than the visually innocuous 0.06mm difference in roundness.

I can really find no reason why you'd pick one over the other, unless the gemologist said, the hvs2 has more scintillation and fire for example. From the information provided, with a small price difference and a better grade, why go for the smaller (minimally I agree) and lesser graded stone?

I understand you are referring to a different 1.31 stone but the discussion points are the same otherwise

Your points are fair enough gm89uk. Have been learning whenever I've been reading your responses. Both of us are in agreement on this though (I think): we wish the OP to be able to pull the trigger on a stone of their choosing after due consideration of all of our suggestions and comments.

Sorry I'm often messaging from my phone on the go which translates to very poor English and grammar. Congratulations newcomer, all the choices were lovely diamonds and wish you the best
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

Another question for the diamond that I just ordered. I noticed that the AGS report shows: "Fluorescence: Medium Blue, Additional clouds are not shown". Is Medium Blue Fluorescence with H color is good thing (might make the store more whiter) or bad thing (might make the store more cloudy)? The HCA score is 1.2.

AGS Report:
http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104089677009-PLDQR.PDF

Diamond:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2163073


I also saw this 1.31 E-SI2 diamond with same price. JA says it is eye clean from 9-12 inches view point. Is this a better choice since it is a E color or bad because SI2?

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-e-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2114691

Please advise.

Thanks.
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

NewComer99|1486564404|4125919 said:
Another question for the diamond that I just ordered. I noticed that the AGS report shows: "Fluorescence: Medium Blue, Additional clouds are not shown". Is Medium Blue Fluorescence with H color is good thing (might make the store more whiter) or bad thing (might make the store more cloudy)? The HCA score is 1.2.

AGS Report:
http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104089677009-PLDQR.PDF

Diamond:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2163073


I also saw this 1.31 E-SI2 diamond with same price. JA says it is eye clean from 9-12 inches view point. Is this a better choice since it is a E color or bad because SI2?

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-e-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2114691

Please advise.

Thanks.

I personally wouldn't go for an SI2 stone if the size is 1ct+.

The medium blue fluor should help to make the stone look whiter. Did you ask the JA gemologist to check whether the fluor would affect the stone in a negative manner? Additional clouds not shown means that there are further clouds that are present within the stone but they were not used as the determining inclusions when grading clarity. Depending on where they are located, they may or may not have an impact on the light performance of the stone. Given you have purchased a VS1 stone, they should be fine as they are likely to be smaller clouds than the clouds used to determine the clarity grade of the stone.
 
Re: Help Me to Choose Right Diamond - Need to Decide by Tomo

NewComer99|1486564404|4125919 said:
Another question for the diamond that I just ordered. I noticed that the AGS report shows: "Fluorescence: Medium Blue, Additional clouds are not shown". Is Medium Blue Fluorescence with H color is good thing (might make the store more whiter) or bad thing (might make the store more cloudy)? The HCA score is 1.2.

AGS Report:
http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104089677009-PLDQR.PDF

Diamond:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2163073


I also saw this 1.31 E-SI2 diamond with same price. JA says it is eye clean from 9-12 inches view point. Is this a better choice since it is a E color or bad because SI2?

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.31-carat-e-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2114691

Please advise.

Thanks.

Fluor is occasionally a problem with Very SBF, rarely with SBR, and almost never with medium fluor. Additionally it is, from what I've seen, more of an issue with more heavily included stones, specifically twinning wisps and clouds toward the SI2 clarity.

At VS1 there are no concerns regarding the clarity comments. In the same way normal fluorescence absorbs the blue spectrum of light and emits green, the diamond absorbs UV and emits blue light. Fluor acts like a colour filter on a stone. As it is an H, the colour filter effect on the body of the diamond helps make it whiter (helping reduce the reflection of yellow light and increases the reflection of blue light). If this was a colourless stone, such as a D, there is no tint at all in the diamond and the fluorescence can cause an 'overblue' effect. In an H colour, medium blue is often seen as a positive and can make the diamond appear whiter than it's true appearance subject to adequately UV exposure.

Some SI2 stones are truly eye clean and are notoriously difficult to find. This I do not believe is one of them. The relatively visible crystal inclusion would almost certainly be visible, if not be looking, but by reflecting light sightly differently, so it may glisten when looking at an angle. The stone itself may be a great performer and the inclusion may not bother you, but most strive for eye clean.

Also this stone will have a different flavour with the thin pavilion mains (longer LGF) this refers to the 80 percent on the certificate. This diamond (if precisely cut) is likely to offer more numerous but smaller sparkles (scintillation) while the one you have selected is likely to offer slightly fewer but broader flashes of fire. Typically the former performs slightly better in bright light, and the latter better in more light starved lighting. Yours is a happy inbetween with the general happy range for modern LGF being 76 to 80 which is nicely balanced. The SI2 stone is probably Slightly above 80 but rounded down. I would personally stick with your choice.
 
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