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Help me pick one of these 4 stones please!!

ayushkhatri

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Experts,

Merry Christmas. Hope you all are having a great one. I have narrowed my selection down to the following 4 stones. Which should I pick. They r all similar in price.

1.81 I VVS2 $14k HCA score 1.7

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/Round/GIA-Certified-1,82-Carat-I-Color-VVS2-Clarity-Diamond-4GJT14

1.75 H VS1 $14.3k HCA score 0.8

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/Round/GIA-Certified-1,75-Carat-H-Color-VS1-Clarity-Diamond-BJKY8E

1.91 I VS2 $14.5k HCA score 2.7
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/Round/GIA-Certified-1,91-Carat-I-Color-VS2-Clarity-Diamond-H4H17Q

1.7 F SI1 $13.7k HCA SCORE 1.7
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/Round/GIA-Certified-1,7-Carat-F-Color-SI1-Clarity-Diamond-2Z9A4C

Any thoughts? I'm leaning towards the 1.75 H VS1 or 1.81 I VVS2

Joshua at enchanted diamonds has been great in helping me shortlist these picks but now I need final input from you experts. Thanks again.
 
The magnified pictures help, but we'd really need idealscope images to see how much, if any, leakage there is in each diamond. It is hard to tell from the pictures.

For me the decision would be between the 1.75 H VS1 and the 1.9 I VS2 if they didn't have leakage. That would be a choice between better color or greater size. That is a very personal choice. I like that they are both VS, and I don't care to pay for VVS and I'd rather have the VS over SI1, as well.

Ask them for idealscope images. That will help make the decision.
 
Thanks for your input. Can you define leakage please? The 1.91 I vs2 has a lower HCA score 2.7 than the 1.75 h vs1 (0.8). I prefer size over color. Don't care so much for clarity as long as it's eye clean. Vs2 is fine w me. But the 1.82 I vvs2 is a good size (7.78mm) and decent price too with a 1.7 HCA score. Thoughts?
 
first stone crown height very slightly off
stone two crown angle 36 slightly off from ideal 34-35

I am sure they are both great. use the HCA to rul out over 2.0 otherwise pick the one that you like the best
 
Thanks heididi which two stones are you talking about since there are four listed. Thanks
 
I assume she was referring to the first stone listed and the second stone listed.
 
ayushkhatri|1419549422|3807716 said:
Thanks for your input. Can you define leakage please? The 1.91 I vs2 has a lower HCA score 2.7 than the 1.75 h vs1 (0.8). I prefer size over color. Don't care so much for clarity as long as it's eye clean. Vs2 is fine w me. But the 1.82 I vvs2 is a good size (7.78mm) and decent price too with a 1.7 HCA score. Thoughts?

You want a stone that has good reflector images proving that the stone does not leak light. As in, a stone that reflects light better is going to be more brilliant. Here is a little information about the idealscope:

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/ideal-scope

http://ideal-scope.com/reference-chart-ideal-scope-images/

When you use the HCA, a stone that scores below 2.0 is generally better than one that scores higher, although there can be some good stones with a score in the 2.0-3.0 range IF you have extra information such as idealscope images. A score below 2.0 means a stone is worth pursuing further information. It does not guarantee perfect cut. So in this case, the 1.75 H stone with a score of .8 has greater potential of being a great cut than the one that scores 2.7. However, when using the HCA, a score of .8 is not necessarily better than a 1.8, for example. Any score of 2.0 or less just means the stone is worth pursuing further.

I will say that I missed that the 1.9 ct I VS2 stone does show additional images below the main image (I think they may be from a hearts and arrows viewer, not an idealscope), and it appears that it may have leakage although I am not sure about their photography. The 1.75 H VS1 does not have the extra images. The I VVS2 has what appears to be computer generated images and not actual idealscope images, so I am not sure what to say about that one. I think it would be worth considering, but I still think the 1.75 H VS1 may be better cut.
 
"I will say that I missed that the 1.9 ct I VS2 stone does show additional images below the main image (I think they may be from a hearts and arrows viewer, not an idealscope), and it appears that it may have leakage although I am not sure about their photography. The 1.75 H VS1 does not have the extra images. The I VVS2 has what appears to be computer generated images and not actual idealscope images, so I am not sure what to say about that one. I think it would be worth considering, but I still think the 1.75 H VS1 may be better cut."

ThAnks so much. I have narrowed it down to the 1.75 H vs1 ...the one thing that is bothering me is that the inclusion is black on the table (even though very tiny). Is this a big deal? Should I just get the stone?? You can see the magnified image here to zoom over on this site

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-6201669-1.75-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS1-clarity.aspx
 
diamondseeker2006|1419557369|3807736 said:
ayushkhatri|1419549422|3807716 said:
Thanks for your input. Can you define leakage please? The 1.91 I vs2 has a lower HCA score 2.7 than the 1.75 h vs1 (0.8). I prefer size over color. Don't care so much for clarity as long as it's eye clean. Vs2 is fine w me. But the 1.82 I vvs2 is a good size (7.78mm) and decent price too with a 1.7 HCA score. Thoughts?

You want a stone that has good reflector images proving that the stone does not leak light. As in, a stone that reflects light better is going to be more brilliant. Here is a little information about the idealscope:

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/ideal-scope

http://ideal-scope.com/reference-chart-ideal-scope-images/

When you use the HCA, a stone that scores below 2.0 is generally better than one that scores higher, although there can be some good stones with a score in the 2.0-3.0 range IF you have extra information such as idealscope images. A score below 2.0 means a stone is worth pursuing further information. It does not guarantee perfect cut. So in this case, the 1.75 H stone with a score of .8 has greater potential of being a great cut than the one that scores 2.7. However, when using the HCA, a score of .8 is not necessarily better than a 1.8, for example. Any score of 2.0 or less just means the stone is worth pursuing further.

I will say that I missed that the 1.9 ct I VS2 stone does show additional images below the main image (I think they may be from a hearts and arrows viewer, not an idealscope), and it appears that it may have leakage although I am not sure about their photography. The 1.75 H VS1 does not have the extra images. The I VVS2 has what appears to be computer generated images and not actual idealscope images, so I am not sure what to say about that one. I think it would be worth considering, but I still think the 1.75 H VS1 may be better cut.[/quote

"I will say that I missed that the 1.9 ct I VS2 stone does show additional images below the main image (I think they may be from a hearts and arrows viewer, not an idealscope), and it appears that it may have leakage although I am not sure about their photography. The 1.75 H VS1 does not have the extra images. The I VVS2 has what appears to be computer generated images and not actual idealscope images, so I am not sure what to say about that one. I think it would be worth considering, but I still think the 1.75 H VS1 may be better cut."

ThAnks so much. I have narrowed it down to the 1.75 H vs1 ...the one thing that is bothering me is that the inclusion is black on the table (even though very tiny). Is this a big deal? Should I just get the stone?? You can see the magnified image here to zoom over on this site

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-6201669-1.75-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS1-clarity.aspx
 
"I will say that I missed that the 1.9 ct I VS2 stone does show additional images below the main image (I think they may be from a hearts and arrows viewer, not an idealscope), and it appears that it may have leakage although I am not sure about their photography. The 1.75 H VS1 does not have the extra images. The I VVS2 has what appears to be computer generated images and not actual idealscope images, so I am not sure what to say about that one. I think it would be worth considering, but I still think the 1.75 H VS1 may be better cut."

ThAnks so much. I have narrowed it down to the 1.75 H vs1 ...the one thing that is bothering me is that the inclusion is black on the table (even though very tiny). Is this a big deal? Should I just get the stone?? You can see the magnified image here to zoom over on this site

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-6201669-1.75-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS1-clarity.aspx
 
I BOUGHT THIS STONE

1.81 H VS1 HCA 1.8 (LIGHT RETURN VG , FIRE AND SCINT EX, SPREAD VG)

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/Round/GIA-Certified-1,81-Carat-H-Color-VS1-Clarity-Diamond-AS2QGQ

PRICE $14,600

TRIPLE EX

MEASUREMENTS: 7.75MM X 7.81 X 4.82 MM

FAINT BLUE FLOURESCENCE

TABLE 58% ; DEPTH 62%

CROWN ANGLE 35 ; PAVILION ANGLE 40.8

CROWN HEIGHT 15%

GIRDLE: MED TO SL THK


I HAVEN'T SEEN THE STONE IN PERSON AS YET BUT LOOKS GOOD FROM IMAGES AND SARINE LIGHT REPORT....THOUGHTS ?? DID I GET A GOOD DEAL ?

additional super zoomed in image attached

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