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Hi PSers!
My husband and I were at the mall (we never do that) and I stopped by the Villeroy & Boch store since I saw the most perfect dishes in the world on display in the window. I've never seen something like this before-it was like they pulled it out of my head when I didn't even know it existed and I was in love. :love:

We are going to be redoing our kitchen probably some time next year and I will be getting new dishes and these were/are on the top of my list. But when I went in and the lady quoted me a price for one plate setting it was 105.00 and that didn't even include tea cups with saucers. Now I realize that this might be a reasonable price for china-for the mug/bowl/plate/salad plate (I think it included that) but for us-thinking we want 6 plate settings + serving dishes= a LOT of money. Now we may have to save for it if I can't find anything similar for less but I figured I'd reach out and see what PSers could find ::)

Here they are
http://shop.villeroy-boch.com/ca_en/tableware/dinnerware/classic/anmut-bloom.html

I also LOVE daffodils but they aren't around on plates very much. I found some vintage ones but they aren't complete sets and so it isn't practical to buy them that way.

I really appreciate the help. I really love these dishes and if I have to save to get them (as long as they don't get discontinued) we will do that once the kitchen is done. But we also plan on investing in better pots/pans (cast iron) and that will be over 1k for those...so plates aren't on the top of the list lol!

I'm also attaching a daffodil plate set I found on google images but can't find the source to save my life-those would be amazing as well :)

Thanks so much!

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I just wanted to say I love Villeroy & Boch, I would so buy that espresso cup... no money left for the amazing matching saucer, though.

Their stuff does go on sale.
 
I got my Villeroy on sale at Macy's, asked family to buy me pieces for birthdays, etc and bought it piece by piece. For eg, maybe buy the mugs and salad plates first to use as a coffee set so you can enjoy it? Plus, Macy's allowed me to open an interest free tabletop account to finish my set.

It's now less than 10 years later and I'm sick of my Villeroy since it was very unusual but still love my plain white Wedgewood Grand Gourmet (for which I stocked up at replacements.com for unsigned hotel overstock).
 
Back in the 1980s I bought a big set while overseas and in the military.
It's bone china with platinum banding.
There are 12 7-piece place settings and a zillion big serving bowls, platters, sugar bowl, gravy bowl etc. etc.
Noritake made this pattern from 1979 - 1993. per http://www.replacements.com/webquote/N__RAND.htm

I can't believe how much replacement pieces costs now. :o :o :o
I'm also amazed how durable it is.
I've never broken or chipped a piece, though I have lost some to theft by family members. :angryfire:

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While these look cool and fun today, will they still be attractive to you in 40 years?

Sure people vary and some have the funds and frame of mind to happily just drop a few thousand dollars every decade to update china patterns.
Nothing wrong with that.

When it comes to fine china I'm the type who wants something more conservative, subdued and classic so it is more likely to be agreeable far into the future.
Even my pattern was a little strong and bold, which is probably why it was discontinued.

Our everyday set is Correlle Livingwear in plain white which I also bought in the 80s.
This 'pattern' has been in production for a zillion years, though the coffee cup style changes.
It's kinda cool I can go to Tar-Jay and get mew replacements that match perfectly, CHEAP!

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Well, back in 1961 when DH and I were engaged, his mom and dad took a trip to Germany. DH's dad picked out the china and gifted it to us.

The pattern is timeless as it is white with a gold rim. We have never used the dishwasher on any pieces and the only breakage is one cup (of 12).

When my mom moved out of her large home, we were given 12 place settings of Golden Rose by Royal Chelsea. It's a beautiful pattern, but again definitely not for use in the dishwasher. She used all the pieces once for a family gathering. I haven't used it at all. Various shades of roses and a wide gold band surround the rim.

For every day, we use Flora (wild rose pattern) by Villeroy and Boch. It's very simple. The luncheon or salad plates and the bread and butter plates have a single rose (north to south) while the dinner plates are white with a green boarder. These go into the dishwasher and the microwave daily :bigsmile:
 
Very interesting place settings, vintage! I had never heard of V&B before.

We use Fiestaware for our daily dishes. Our primary set is white (dinner plates, soup bowls, bread plates, and mugs), with black salad plates, shamrock (green) fruit bowls, and a mix of turquoise and shamrock large pasta bowls.

Our China is Noritake's Envoy pattern. It was retired in the 1980s. I didn't register for any when we got married, but found a full set (8 place settings plus 5 serving pieces) in perfect condition at the local junk/antique/consignment store for under $200, so I snatched it up! We used it for Christmas this year and it's still set out on our formal dining table.
 
I have to agree with Kenny.

I have Wedgwood, in a plain white bone china. Super quality, superior strength. And will NEVER get discontinued so I can always replace pieces if they break (they don't break though, the only piece I broke I actually stepped on with all my weight accidentally during a move). And once year they go on sale for a buy two place settings get two place settings free deal. I bought a set of 16 place settings. They will last forever, food looks fantastic on it. And it works for all seasons/events/occasions.

To dress them up I have several types of Chargers. Lovely table linens and napkin rings.

You can also do chargers combined with fancy accent plates with white dishes. Even if you pay 30 bucks a plate for accent plates from that Villeroy and Boch set -- you only NEED 6 to dress up your plain white set. This is the plate I would get as an accent plate. You put that on top of all you white China and do some gorgeous bright yellow chargers your table will just look fabulous. http://shop.villeroy-boch.com/ca_en/tableware/dinnerware/classic/anmut-bloom/anmut-bloom-salad-plate-22cm.html and when you get tired of the set, or it's a holiday, you pull out a different set of accent plates.

Also, with fine china-- brands matter. I have soup bowls that match my set perfectly in color from crate and barrel in fine bone china that I bought for 8 bucks each because I was too cheap to cough up 30 bucks each for the Wedgwood and they do not have the same strength as my Wedgwood at all. So... be careful about being penny-wise and pound foolish.
 
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=129308 These are Porcelain, which personally I wouldn't buy for a "life" set as they just do not have the same strength as the bone china, but they are bright and floral and modern, and if you plan to keep them just for a few years... might be okay. You could also just buy some of the accent plates and pair them with some mix and match whites and fun chargers.

Good for ideas... also advocates pairing bright patterns with white china. http://www.marthastewartweddings.com/230873/floral-bridal-registry-ideas/@center/272425/wedding-registry-adviser

More expensive but.. I adore the Haviland Limoges china (if I won the lottery I would have to buy a set from them).. here's a gorgeous floral pattern. Again, you could just buy the accent plates and pair it with lovely white china. http://www.michaelcfina.com/tableware/formal-china/whites--ivories/haviland-floralies-CHHAVIFLOA.html

Another good article: http://www.marthastewartweddings.com/230743/mix-and-match-china-your-wedding-registry/@center/272425/wedding-registry-adviser#end
 
Also, don't buy serving pieces from the set. It's a complete waste of money. Get creative. All my serving ware is from different places. Some of it is white, a lot of it is crystal or lovely glass but I also have some wonderful metallic pieces as neutrals so they go with whatever I do for linens and chargers.

I wouldn't spend ANY money on matching serving pieces. And if you want fancy bone china serving pieces (I think I have a couple) buy those in plain white off ebay or replacements.com.

I have so many platters I loan them to friends for their parties. I adore platters, and bowls (salad bowls, pasta bowls, tureens, you name it) and they are so much fun to shop for and you rarely if ever have to spend a lot of money to get a great look. I buy them from Home Goods or from Crate and Barrel (they have great selections) or even from the Thrift Store, we have a high Asian population here and I get so many gorgeous pieces from the china shops... especially sushi platters, so beautiful and so versatile.

Just look at how many awesome pieces you can find just here: http://www.crateandbarrel.com/dining-and-entertaining/serveware/


Honestly, when it comes to china/serveware too matchy matchy is kinda boring. Plus it is so much fun to build a collection.

I own this one and adore it. http://www.crateandbarrel.com/ellipse-13.5-large-bowl/s232157

Others I own:

http://www.cb2.com/cuatro-platters/f2736 A couple of the large platters.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?sku=15825855&
http://www.cb2.com/3-piece-verona-gift-set/s656677 This set.
http://www.cb2.com/marble-server/s521477 Perfect for a cheese board, and I use it often.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?sku=40277875&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CPXfo8LX8bUCFchaMgodRVAAyg

I don't spend a lot on them because frankly I like to switch it up. If they break... oh well, I go and buy some new ones. There are always awesome serving dishes to be bought!
 
Years ago, I found a set from Villeroy that I almost bought as it too was just beautiful IMO. In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't! I have found that through the years I definitely prefer my dishes to be on the plain side. As Gypsy said, you can do so many other things on a table to bring in pattern or color. Dishes that are heavily patterned are pretty to look at but not as appetizing to eat from. My every day dishes are now Denby in Truffle Layers (Macy's sells them). Made in England they are of excellent quality and I never tire of them. Looking for peas in the flowers became very annoying to me - hence the much plainer and much more appealing to me dishes.
 
When we got married in 79 we registered for and got Royal Doultons Coniston pattern. I'm not sure what we were thinking!!! It's pretty but got old quickly.
We then got our Fiesta ware and I use that daily but for parties etc we have since gotten a simple white with silver trim, Wedgewood Sterling Collection. I second the don't buy matching serving pieces. I have picked up several crystal pieces as well as vintage porcelain pieces that I use.
I love using different chargers . White is really very versatile!

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I can usually find great deals on china on eBay. As long as it isn't a brand new pattern it might be worth signing up for a daily email search for a few months before you buy it. Might be able to get it for half price that way.
 
I'm with Kenny, Corelle white all the way. Plain dishes never look dated, no matter what colors are in season. I love how simple and hard wearing it is. I just don't have time to baby China, and all my guests really care about is the food :).
 
I'm going to second Gypsy's suggestion of just getting the Anmut Bloom salad plate, and then another pattern for everything else.

I also really like the breakfast cup in Anmut Bloom, but I don't drink 12 ounce coffees or lattes.
 
Wow, I like both of them!

I don't have any real advice, but this is what I've got at home,

The first two are from Iittala, the collection is called "Taika" (it's Finnish), I think it translates to "fairy tale" or "spell". Anyway, I have a mix of the two colors, they aren't for everyone. But I love love them, and get compliments on them whenever I have people over. The dinner plates are on the bigger side, but I can live with that.

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/iittala-dinnerware-taika-collection?ID=568477

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/iittala-dinnerware-taika-blue-collection?ID=621464


I also have a plain set from Villeroy & Boch, it's called "White Twist".

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I used to work at Macy's in the bridal registry and I sold a lot of Villeroy. I have some myself, nice quality porcelain. If Macy's carries the pattern watch the sales and wait. At least twice per year they will offer 50% off dinner and salad, sometimes even an entire pattern. And I agree with others to mix and match for things like serving pieces and coffee or tea. I have a Mitch and match of noritake Color wave in blue and glazed denby porcelain in s bunch of colors. I also have some nice glass mixed in. Have fun!
 
DH and I are really boring with just plain white dinnerware from C&B:http://www.crateandbarrel.com/maison-20-piece-dinnerware-set/s502146

I keep thinking one day I will get some colored plates to mix and match with them.... :)

When we got married we registery for china and got the Waterford Ballet Ribbons but 6 + years later we still have NEVER used it!

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I don't use or have china; no place to store it and I would never use it. But I do have use clear glass dinner plates so I can mix and match accent pieces if I am dressing up the table.

Anthropologie has lots of similar bright bold patterns that I just love!

I think if you love the pattern, get the pattern. Everything that goes around comes around and even if you get tired of the pattern in 15 years, your children or grandchildren will probably bless your name for being so fashionable when you hand it down!
 
I have the Waterford Ballet ribbons with 2of each colored accent plate (and I figured I could get bolder accent plates for other times if I wanted to). We got 4 sets as a wedding gift and bought the rest on ebay.

Our everyday is MIkasa Classic Calla which is now discontinued:-(

If we ever got new everyday china I would get Wedgewood Nantucket basket (my SIL picked it and I love it:-)

Macys has great sales if you wait for them.
 
It will take me some time to take pictures, but china was something I really loved along with jewelry, so I have a LOT! And I rarely use most of it! If I had to do it all again, I think I might have gotten nothing but either dinner plates or salad plates in each pattern, and had a full set of white or off-white to coordinate with them! As much good china as I have, there is nothing easier to use and store than Corelle! :lol:

I have two sets of Villeroy and Boch and have always loved their china. Both of my sets are traditional and casual. One is still being sold, French Garden. It has some pretty coordinating patterns and I have some of the different pieces. The key to V&B is buying at Macy's as others said. I am sure I paid no more than 50% of retail. I don't like this picture because it really isn't true to life, but it was the best I could find quickly online.

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Wow-thanks so much everyone for all the replies. I must say I *really* love the idea of getting it as an accent plate and then using white/and or other miss matching pieces to complete *my* set. That is TOTALLY up my ally! Everyone posted such beautiful dinnerware-I'll reply to everyone below but I will make it known it's not the china I'm after (I REALLY have no use for china) so a good quality dinnerware that isn't china would be much better for me-something durable and dishwasher friendly and of course-KID friendly. We don't entertain so this is purely for my own enjoyment :D





JulieN|1362857008|3400720 said:
I just wanted to say I love Villeroy & Boch, I would so buy that espresso cup... no money left for the amazing matching saucer, though.

Their stuff does go on sale.
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Well it's good to know that someone else likes the pattern :) I thought I was just an odd one loving the rainbow flowers! But yeah...even on ebay they actually have some of the pieces for MORE money than buying it online direct. That's not happening :rolleyes:




webdiva said:
I got my Villeroy on sale at Macy's, asked family to buy me pieces for birthdays, etc and bought it piece by piece. For eg, maybe buy the mugs and salad plates first to use as a coffee set so you can enjoy it? Plus, Macy's allowed me to open an interest free tabletop account to finish my set.

It's now less than 10 years later and I'm sick of my Villeroy since it was very unusual but still love my plain white Wedgewood Grand Gourmet (for which I stocked up at replacements.com for unsigned hotel overstock).
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I will be checking out macys for sales at random from now on for sure! Won't do an interest free CC though-we have WAY to many other things to buy and they would sit in a box for a few years until we get the kitchen done. It was just one of those walking by and saw THE SET and was like OMG I LOVE those :) Which promoted this thread :)

kenny said:
Back in the 1980s I bought a big set while overseas and in the military.
It's bone china with platinum banding.
There are 12 7-piece place settings and a zillion big serving bowls, platters, sugar bowl, gravy bowl etc. etc.
Noritake made this pattern from 1979 - 1993. per http://www.replacements.com/webquote/N__RAND.htm

I can't believe how much replacement pieces costs now. :o :o :o
I'm also amazed how durable it is.
I've never broken or chipped a piece, though I have lost some to theft by family members. :angryfire:


Kenny: I LOVE your china. Wow-stunning! How stupid for your family members to steal some of it-I mean what are you going to do with one or two pieces? Do they think they can steal the whole set over their life time of visits? Like you wouldn't notice :confused: :knockout: :o


isaku5 said:
Well, back in 1961 when DH and I were engaged, his mom and dad took a trip to Germany. DH's dad picked out the china and gifted it to us.

The pattern is timeless as it is white with a gold rim. We have never used the dishwasher on any pieces and the only breakage is one cup (of 12).

When my mom moved out of her large home, we were given 12 place settings of Golden Rose by Royal Chelsea. It's a beautiful pattern, but again definitely not for use in the dishwasher. She used all the pieces once for a family gathering. I haven't used it at all. Various shades of roses and a wide gold band surround the rim.

For every day, we use Flora (wild rose pattern) by Villeroy and Boch. It's very simple. The luncheon or salad plates and the bread and butter plates have a single rose (north to south) while the dinner plates are white with a green boarder. These go into the dishwasher and the microwave daily :bigsmile:
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That is wonderful you got dinnerware for a wedding gift-I know many people do. I would have loved to have gotten more household goods for gifts but alas we had a very small wedding and neither of our families are very well off. Not that weddings are for gifts/making back money or anything but ours def. cost us more than we got back by a long shot. Although we did get some nice wine and cheese sets. Not top of the line but good enough for us!

I'm happy to know that someone else uses it-the plates sound beautiful. I LOVE roses!

vc10um said:
Very interesting place settings, vintage! I had never heard of V&B before.

We use Fiestaware for our daily dishes. Our primary set is white (dinner plates, soup bowls, bread plates, and mugs), with black salad plates, shamrock (green) fruit bowls, and a mix of turquoise and shamrock large pasta bowls.

Our China is Noritake's Envoy pattern. It was retired in the 1980s. I didn't register for any when we got married, but found a full set (8 place settings plus 5 serving pieces) in perfect condition at the local junk/antique/consignment store for under $200, so I snatched it up! We used it for Christmas this year and it's still set out on our formal dining table.
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I was JUST as a thrift store yesterday and saw a HUGE set that I really liked but couldn't find a price. I had my son on my back and wasn't really in the mood to look for someone to find out for me since they'd just be stored anyways. I'll keep my eye out though its good to know other people found good deals that way too!

Gypsy said:
I have to agree with Kenny.

I have Wedgwood, in a plain white bone china. Super quality, superior strength. And will NEVER get discontinued so I can always replace pieces if they break (they don't break though, the only piece I broke I actually stepped on with all my weight accidentally during a move). And once year they go on sale for a buy two place settings get two place settings free deal. I bought a set of 16 place settings. They will last forever, food looks fantastic on it. And it works for all seasons/events/occasions.

To dress them up I have several types of Chargers. Lovely table linens and napkin rings.

You can also do chargers combined with fancy accent plates with white dishes. Even if you pay 30 bucks a plate for accent plates from that Villeroy and Boch set -- you only NEED 6 to dress up your plain white set. This is the plate I would get as an accent plate. You put that on top of all you white China and do some gorgeous bright yellow chargers your table will just look fabulous. http://shop.villeroy-boch.com/ca_en/tableware/dinnerware/classic/anmut-bloom/anmut-bloom-salad-plate-22cm.html and when you get tired of the set, or it's a holiday, you pull out a different set of accent plates.

Also, with fine china-- brands matter. I have soup bowls that match my set perfectly in color from crate and barrel in fine bone china that I bought for 8 bucks each because I was too cheap to cough up 30 bucks each for the Wedgwood and they do not have the same strength as my Wedgwood at all. So... be careful about being penny-wise and pound foolish.
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Gypsy: Thanks so much for the advice/help. I think your 100% right and if they are still for sale when we are ready to buy I think that is the way we will go unless we find something that's not china that is durable and very similar in looks. I LOVE the sets you've linked-so much to think about when the kitchen is ready to be done :shock:

MissGotRocks said:
Years ago, I found a set from Villeroy that I almost bought as it too was just beautiful IMO. In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't! I have found that through the years I definitely prefer my dishes to be on the plain side. As Gypsy said, you can do so many other things on a table to bring in pattern or color. Dishes that are heavily patterned are pretty to look at but not as appetizing to eat from. My every day dishes are now Denby in Truffle Layers (Macy's sells them). Made in England they are of excellent quality and I never tire of them. Looking for peas in the flowers became very annoying to me - hence the much plainer and much more appealing to me dishes.
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I didn't even consider that. Thankfully we have probably 2-3 years before we are ready to buy. If I'm still in love with them then and they fit the kitchen decor I will probably use Gypsy's idea of using it as an accent plate. Thanks so much for chiming in!




Everyone else I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to say thanks or reply-my son is freaking out in his swing so off the computer I go. I'll try and finish up later :)
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Idk, $109 per place setting sounds fine to me? The one we registered for for our wedding is $172 per setting and that just includes dinner plate, salad plate, bowl, and mug. We don't need a dozen mugs though so just want four place settings and then everything else we want individually (plates/bowls/serving pieces). It's Denby Azure Coast.

http://www1.macys.com/shop/wedding-registry/product/denby-dinnerware-azure-coast-4-piece-place-setting?ID=772286&CategoryID=53629

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I think I picked this set because it reminds me a lot of a set my grandmother had, and our dining table used to be hers. The table is a really, really dark teal mottled with black. Her plates were very similar, also stoneware, but rougher and with some sort of Native American looking pattern around the edges.

For our "fancy" china we have a Mikasa set that the fiance bought on housewaresdeals.com for like $120 for eight full sets. We've used it twice in the past two years, both at barbecues when we ran out of normal plates, so we didn't see the sense in upgrading china when registering for our wedding. If we ever start throwing fancy parties when we get older, we'll get super nice china then, lol. It's basic white with a silver pattern around the edge. Oh, it's this: http://www.mikasa.com/40-Piece-Dinnerware-Set/5050222,default,pd.html#cgid=dining_fine-dinnerware&start=0&hitcount=1768
Basically its only purpose is filling our china cabinet.

And oooh, Gypsy, that Haviland stuff! I love the Illusion pattern! In thirty years when we start throwing fancy parties instead of barbecues, I hope that's still around!
 
Just as an FYI. Bone china is some of the strongest dinnerware, period, and as long as you stick with plainer patterns that don't have metallics-- they are dishwasher, microwave, everything proof.

My set gets every day use. Microwave, dishwasher... you name it. Strong as heck. I am a klutz and while I wouldn't say I'm as bad a toddler-- toddlers grow out of it, I probably never will. Anything other than bone china wouldn't last long in my house.

Bone china might appears to be the most delicate but it is actually some of the strongest dinnerware you can buy. Porcelain is next (Porcelain is the hardest, not strongest, and can be brittle and chip more than bone china depending on firing temperature), then stoneware. Earthenware and ironstone are made from soft clays and chip most easily. They are also porous so a chipped area can absorb juices etc and breed bacteria.

That said, my MIL has a stoneware set that's lasted through all her 4 kids and 7 grandkids with some knocks and chips (she just won't throw those out, drives me nutty), but it's still surprisingly (and regrettably as I really want to replace it as it is hideous) durable.

That one Porcelain set I linked to as Bed Bath and Beyond might work for you though, both in price and style.
 
vintagelover229|1363013248|3401895 said:
Kenny: I LOVE your china. Wow-stunning! How stupid for your family members to steal some of it-I mean what are you going to do with one or two pieces? Do they think they can steal the whole set over their life time of visits? Like you wouldn't notice :confused: :knockout: :o
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Thanks, actually when my mom died I found out she was the bandit since my sister recovered and return a place setting to me.
I dont' mind.
Mom must have used it very often because the platinum banding was deeply worn when I got it back.

I guess I'm an old softie because 'mom's' are now my favorite pieces.
 
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