Help me find an Asscher cut ring please!

[mspaun3]

6x6 is going to be over budget too. Asschers are generally cut deep (on purpose) so you are looking at 5.5-5.8 usually. 6mm is rare (that's why that G VS2 was so awesome!).

If you want a 6mm you are usually looking at 1.2+.

That 0.99 Ct from JA that I have on hold (item# 1521599)...It is 5.54 x 5.51. Do you think that is big enough for the Ritani Endless Love Setting?

Btw...thank you for your continued help on this...This help is invaluable. This goes for everyone

 

[mspaun3]

Gosh, I just looked and the price is not that much more for platinum. The Ritani site has it in platinum for $3860 and 18k white gold is only $470 less (not worth it, IMO). The only sad part to me is that he could get an ERD custom halo for that price. I think Pearlman's may give a discount on the setting, though, and that might bring it down closer to $3000. And I think Good Old Gold carries Ritani, too, and they may match Pearlman's price. You'd have to ask. I am just thinking the more of this that is in NY, the faster it might be.

So, mspaun, are you going to increase your budget? You really need to figure out the setting so you know how much you have to spend on the diamond. I think the Ritani setting is beautiful, but it is NOT the same style as the one you showed us that she liked. That is more the Harry Winston pave style whereas the Ritani has a metal edge around all the diamonds. The one she likes has the center stone prong set and the Ritani is bezel set. I personally think it is a mistake to veer off course from what she showed you that she likes.

Thanks for this post. GF's mom did some reconnaissance work today and the bezel set is actually what my GF wants. Her favorite ring she has now is bezel set so this made sense to me.

I think I am set on the Ritani Endless Love. Just have to find the magical diamond to go in it. I know I was heading towards over my initial budget by choosing the Endless Love, but now that I've chosen it, I need to go find the perfect stone to accompany it and do the setting justice!

 

[distracts]

I also found this Gabriel and Co setting that I *think* can be set with prongs for an asscher. There is an asscher set in another ring in the princess section. You need closer to 6mm for this setting.

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7266W44JJ

At least it is another option since you are attempting a major rush job.

THANK YOU! I thought I was going around the bend. I was on there looking for a setting for this poster and COULD NOT find this one. They would need to change out the prongs for tab or regular prongs, but otherwise this setting would work.

Welcome! You know I adore BK personally, but Gabriel has some good plain halos when we can just find them!

I wish they had more options to sort things on their website... it's an absolute mess to look through 30 pages of settings!

...

And OP, I like that Good Old Gold stone that was posted the best. I don't really know what I'm looking for in an asscher ASET but it looked good to me. GOG is a Ritani retailer too so you could get it all at the same place.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I wish they had more options to sort things on their website... it's an absolute mess to look through 30 pages of settings!

...

And OP, I like that Good Old Gold stone that was posted the best. I don't really know what I'm looking for in an asscher ASET but it looked good to me. GOG is a Ritani retailer too so you could get it all at the same place.

You know, that is an excellent point. With the tight timeline, going with the larger asscher at Good Old Gold will increase the possibility of this coming to pass since they are a Ritani dealer. But I think it is very uncertain whether Ritani would be able to meet this timeline. Proposal might need to be New Year's Eve instead!

 

[mspaun3]

I also found this Gabriel and Co setting that I *think* can be set with prongs for an asscher. There is an asscher set in another ring in the princess section. You need closer to 6mm for this setting.

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7266W44JJ

At least it is another option since you are attempting a major rush job.

THANK YOU! I thought I was going around the bend. I was on there looking for a setting for this poster and COULD NOT find this one. They would need to change out the prongs for tab or regular prongs, but otherwise this setting would work.

Welcome! You know I adore BK personally, but Gabriel has some good plain halos when we can just find them!

I wish they had more options to sort things on their website... it's an absolute mess to look through 30 pages of settings!

...

And OP, I like that Good Old Gold stone that was posted the best. I don't really know what I'm looking for in an asscher ASET but it looked good to me. GOG is a Ritani retailer too so you could get it all at the same place.

Thanks Distracts!

I heard that color is a bigger issue with Asschers than some other cuts. Can anyone tell me if a J color would still look okay (well, look stunning I should ask!)?

 

[mspaun3]

I wish they had more options to sort things on their website... it's an absolute mess to look through 30 pages of settings!

...

And OP, I like that Good Old Gold stone that was posted the best. I don't really know what I'm looking for in an asscher ASET but it looked good to me. GOG is a Ritani retailer too so you could get it all at the same place.

You know, that is an excellent point. With the tight timeline, going with the larger asscher at Good Old Gold will increase the possibility of this coming to pass since they are a Ritani dealer. But I think it is very uncertain whether Ritani would be able to meet this timeline. Proposal might need to be New Year's Eve instead!

Yep I am starting to face the facts and realize that it might be NYE. Still hoping for Christmas though if I can finish things up! I'm going to have to call GOG and Pearlman's tomorrow.

 

[cygnet]

I'm so glad you like the Ritani setting! It's just gorgeous. I was considering it for myself up until recently, actually. It is definitely a bit on the expensive side, but it's a beautiful setting and I've only heard good things about their work as far as craftsmanship goes. I think the GOG asscher that was posted looks good too. Though-- I probably wouldn't be TOO concerned about finding the biggest stone possible because just about anything you put in that halo is going to look huge, especially on a size 4 finger. People with tiny fingers are so lucky. Even a smaller stone will look big on her finger, and adding the halo is going to make it look really big.

I am very excited for you! Please post pictures when you have it!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I am color sensitive and I have actually only seen an I color emerald cut, but I feel like they show less color than rounds which have all the little facets. That is why light yellow diamonds are usually cut in a very busy facet pattern because it makes the color more concentrated. I think you could call Good Old Gold in the morning and ask them to take a video for you of this diamond sitting in a halo setting and see how it looks. There is another member here with a J color antique cushion (which also has large facets) from Good Old Gold and it is set in a halo. I will post the link with her pictures for you.

I love both Pearlman's and GOG...have bought from both and think the world of them...but you need to deal with GOG since they are in NY and can probably complete this project fastest because a diamond won't have to be sent all over the country!

 

[mspaun3]

I'm so glad you like the Ritani setting! It's just gorgeous. I was considering it for myself up until recently, actually. It is definitely a bit on the expensive side, but it's a beautiful setting and I've only heard good things about their work as far as craftsmanship goes. I think the GOG asscher that was posted looks good too. Though-- I probably wouldn't be TOO concerned about finding the biggest stone possible because just about anything you put in that halo is going to look huge, especially on a size 4 finger. People with tiny fingers are so lucky. Even a smaller stone will look big on her finger, and adding the halo is going to make it look really big.

I am very excited for you! Please post pictures when you have it!

Cygnet,

I am very thankful that you went ahead and posted the link to the Ritani setting even though it was out of my initial price range. I think my GF will LOVE it. I will definitely post a pic up!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Here is the beautiful J color cushion halo ring owned by dougsgirl:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-avc-daisy-ring-and-6-stone-band.180579/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-avc-daisy-ring-and-6-stone-band.180579/[/URL]

 

[mspaun3]

Maybe this one: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS1-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521599.asp

http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/9758/

I meant to quote this post of yours earlier, Julie. I have the 0.99 Ct one on hold now.

I am hoping to ring something similar to this on Good old Gold or Pearlman's or somewhere else where I can buy the diamond AND the Ritani Endless Love and get a deal!

 

[mspaun3]

Here is the beautiful J color cushion halo ring owned by dougsgirl:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-avc-daisy-ring-and-6-stone-band.180579/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-its-here-my-avc-daisy-ring-and-6-stone-band.180579/[/URL]

Thanks DS! After a little bit of reading up on Asscher Js, I am starting to feel like I need to go somewhere around F-H or maybe I.

 

[mspaun3]

I am color sensitive and I have actually only seen an I color emerald cut, but I feel like they show less color than rounds which have all the little facets. That is why light yellow diamonds are usually cut in a very busy facet pattern because it makes the color more concentrated. I think you could call Good Old Gold in the morning and ask them to take a video for you of this diamond sitting in a halo setting and see how it looks. There is another member here with a J color antique cushion (which also has large facets) from Good Old Gold and it is set in a halo. I will post the link with her pictures for you.

I love both Pearlman's and GOG...have bought from both and think the world of them...but you need to deal with GOG since they are in NY and can probably complete this project fastest because a diamond won't have to be sent all over the country!

I completely understand what you are saying about GOG making sense for me and my time frame. Unfortunately their diamond inventory for my criteria looks pretty small compared to Pearlman's (If I am excluding Js).

I will still call up GOG, though, and ask for a video.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I am color sensitive and I have actually only seen an I color emerald cut, but I feel like they show less color than rounds which have all the little facets. That is why light yellow diamonds are usually cut in a very busy facet pattern because it makes the color more concentrated. I think you could call Good Old Gold in the morning and ask them to take a video for you of this diamond sitting in a halo setting and see how it looks. There is another member here with a J color antique cushion (which also has large facets) from Good Old Gold and it is set in a halo. I will post the link with her pictures for you.

I love both Pearlman's and GOG...have bought from both and think the world of them...but you need to deal with GOG since they are in NY and can probably complete this project fastest because a diamond won't have to be sent all over the country!

I completely understand what you are saying about GOG making sense for me and my time frame. Unfortunately their diamond inventory for my criteria looks pretty small compared to Pearlman's (If I am excluding Js).

I will still call up GOG, though, and ask for a video.

Pearlman's is a wonderful jeweler and I am sure has some fine diamonds in their store, but most jewelers are just listing stones on their sites that they can get from suppliers in NY, they are not just listing stones they have in-house unless they are showing the images. So that means calling in stones and having them shipped to their store from NY and then sending the stone back to NY to have it set at Ritani. GOG probably has more in-house fancy shapes than most and they can access most of the ones listed on any site just because they all have access to major diamond suppliers. What GOG pictures on their site are their in-house diamonds. Most jewelers are not going to be stocking a lot of asschers since those are not the ones that sell most often. Let me say that I have bought 3 rings from Pearlman's and love them! But I think GOG may have more asschers on hand and be able to drop the stone off at Ritani for you depending on the day you choose a stone. I know they dropped my diamond off for me at Vatche. Pearlman's can call in stones for you if they don't have the right asschers in stock and probably have them shipped in overnight as well. I am not sure whether they do idealscope and ASET images to help judge light return, so ask if you call. I wish the J asscher would work for you because I think almost 5.9mm is just going to make a nice center stone for you. But it is hard to know about a J stone until you can see it sitting in a setting. Good luck and we'll be interested to see what happens today!

 

[mspaun3]

Can someone give me their thoughts on the following deal that was proposed to me?

1.00 Ct. Asscher
color H
clarity VVS1
polish excellent
symmetry very good
measurements 5.44 x 5.23 x 3.94


This diamond including the setting of product id 25544 will be for $7,450.00 in platinum.


Link to the setting and essentially what the whole thing will look like...

http://www.kingofjewelry.com/jewelry/1-91-Ct-U-Setting-Asscher-Cut-Halo-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-F-VVS1-GIA-43944.html



GIA cert ----> http://www.kingofjewelry.com/images/cert/a170.jpg

 

[chrono]

With step cuts, it is impossible to buy by the numbers. Do you have an actual picture of the stone? Even without pictures, I don't like what I see on the GIA memo. A thick to very thick girdle coupled with a 75% depth means this 1 ct asscher is facing up very small. The fact that it is smack dab 1 ct on the dot tells me that it was cut purely for weight (to hit the 1 ct mark), not best light performance.

 

[mspaun3]

With step cuts, it is impossible to buy by the numbers. Do you have an actual picture of the stone? Even without pictures, I don't like what I see on the GIA memo. A thick to very thick girdle coupled with a 75% depth means this 1 ct asscher is facing up very small. The fact that it is smack dab 1 ct on the dot tells me that it was cut purely for weight (to hit the 1 ct mark), not best light performance.

Chrono,

Thanks very much for the response. I dont have a pic, but have this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRnsPRe9TMw

 

[DiamondBrokersofFlorida]

The cut is very important with asschers not just color . I think you are safe with I color and above if the diamond is cut to the upper end of what asschers are supposed to look like. Square emerald cuts are a very broad catergory, and stones with shallow crowns or heavy depths won`t have the life of the better made asscher cuts.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

The asscher looks good in the video, but I will have to be honest and tell you that I didn't think that setting was as nice as any of the halo rings we recommended to you. I'll go look at it again, but I remember thinking when I posted it that I was glad you were seeking some similar to it rather than getting that one. Was it not possible to get the Ritani in time? I figured that might be impossible at this point. You need to work on an engagement ring about 2 months before you need it!

Okay, I looked and I still do not think that is a very well designed ring. The head of the stone has a huge base, and it will cause a large gap between the e-ring and wedding band. I like a little gap so the two rings don't look glued together, but this one will not sit well with a wedding band, I don't think. Also, I would not have the diamonds at the base of the head (which we usually call a doughnut when the base is round) because those will scratch the wedding band.

Did you find out that no other rings could be ordered in time?

 

[Gypsy]

The asscher looks okay but the video did not show head on shots and all I can tell you for sure is A) it's an asscher and B) it's got good crown height.

I really like the Ritani. And yes ABSOLUTELY you will be fine with a 5.5 stone in a halo. Mine is 5.8 in a halo... here it is for reference.

Jon can find you an asscher in the time it takes JA to get you an ASET. I would call GOG TODAY. Ask to talk to Jon himself. Explain that Diamondseeker and Gypsy said that you need a great I or better color asscher in a ritani halo, by NYE and can he make it happen for you.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I thought he was calling GOG yesterday???

How about an update mspaun? Your time is running out and I almost feel like you should buy an asscher and have it put in a cheap temporary setting and get a nice setting done after Christmas if Ritani is saying they need more than a week.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Love your ring, Gypsy! Can you show him a profile shot to show him what one should look like, please?

If he waited until after Christmas, he could have Steven or Mark make the setting if they want this style instead of Ritani.

 

[Gypsy]

Sure, but my profile is unique as many prefer to have the stems under the halo curved the opposite way. I obviously like mine this way. Either way, both can accommodate a flush fit band and add stability and support (the goal).

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Thanks, Gypsy! And here is a side view of Frankie's ring which shows another way that allows the wedding band to sit close (although I still would removed the diamonds from the doughnut). And you have seen the Ritani profile which is a third way to support the halo. All of these are preferable to the one that you linked for us.

 

[mspaun3]

I thought he was calling GOG yesterday???

How about an update mspaun? Your time is running out and I almost feel like you should buy an asscher and have it put in a cheap temporary setting and get a nice setting done after Christmas if Ritani is saying they need more than a week.

Here's the update ...

I've been getting so much darn conflicting information from my future mother in law regarding what the GF wants in a setting. Ive been running around to every jewelry store/website to be found it seems. Good news is i think i might finally have some clarity regarding what she wants in a setting. The Ritani Endless Love is no longer an option. The rules are: halo, single band, platinum, diamonds going 1/2 or 3/4 way down band. Overall, just simple but classy. I will try and find a few examples and post them.

 

[mspaun3]

Sure, but my profile is unique as many prefer to have the stems under the halo curved the opposite way. I obviously like mine this way. Either way, both can accommodate a flush fit band and add stability and support (the goal).

Gypsy,

The general shape of your setting is def close to what I'm looking for. If yours had the tiny diamonds going down side it would be an option. I'll try to find some examples though.

 

[mspaun3]

This is the ASET image for the following diamond that I have on hold with JA...

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS1-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521599.asp

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Well here is a top view of the one I just posted. Just picture it with an asscher. Then you tell them not to put diamonds at the bottom of the shank.

Did you contact Good Old Gold? I am asking because they carry a TON more brands of settings than James Allen does.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Oh, and the asscher image looks good. Did you get the images for any others? This one is a little larger and about the same price:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1542208.asp

 

[mspaun3]

Well here is a top view of the one I just posted. Just picture it with an asscher. Then you tell them not to put diamonds at the bottom of the shank.

Did you contact Good Old Gold? I am asking because they carry a TON more brands of settings than James Allen does.

Hi DiamondSeeker,

Thanks so much for your continued help.

I contacted Good Old Gold but only talked diamonds with them and they didn't have anything that would work. I just looked on their site on the settings search. I searched on Cut Corner Square and Platinum. 61 settings came back it I didn't like any. Some looked good from the top but those then had too much artsy decor visible from the side.