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arjunajane

arjunajane

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Hey all,
as some of you may know I have only just recently received my PoH right hand ring from GOG. I adore it, but now I have a serious problem - I''ve got the ideal cut diamond bug!!
Upgrading my ering was something I had always thought I''d "eventually" do, but having fallen in love with ideal stones and PS in general, I''m thinking about doing it alot sooner..
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I currently have a 3stone RB ring that comes to about 0.75tcw and I''ve always loved it, but the stones aren''t ideal...and it has been a number of years!
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I would Love anybody''s help in finding a fantastic RB. I would like to "break" the 1ct mark, but only where it starts making a difference, if that makes sense? From the recent thread comparing different sizes, to me it seems to be around 1.2,1.3+ before you can really see any change from a 1ct..? I can''t afford up to 1.5,
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so just anywhere 1ct plus will be great.
My "sweet spot" is H/I Si1, but I''d be comfortable down to a J. It''d be Fantastic to find a truely eyeclean Si2 to max the size!!
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The ones I''ve been looking at in this range seem to run about 5-6k, so this will be the budget, but of course less is better as need a new setting too..

Apart from that, I don''t really have any preferences as far as the angles etc. as I haven''t learnt enough yet to really make a great choice based on the numbers. I''m just trusting you guys to help me find a kicken'' stone!
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Here are a couple from GOG site as an example of the "flavour" that appeals to me more though - the "fatter" silvery arrows, rather than the skinnier black ones. However i understand this is mainly just photography (?) and have no idea how it translates in real life to performance, so I''m open to all suggestions..
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3297/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3289/


Having established a r''ship with Jon, I would probably prefer to buy there again, but I''m still open to ideas from other vendors with great reps.

Thanks in advance anyone who takes time to help me!
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cheers
aj.
 
 
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WOW! Girly, you do have the bling bug don''t you!

Can''t wait to see what you end up with. What kind of setting are you thinking? Rose gold again? Yummy!
 
Oooh, how exciting! :)

I love both the diamonds you posted. Just to let you know they are advertising a brand new in 1.22 G SI1 H&A on their home page - but no link or photos yet.

I thought I''d tell you so you can find out about it if it''s within budget! :)

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Thankyou Lorelei!
that first WF one you linked looks really good - I can hardly even make out the inclusions.
In your opinion, do you think GOG''s photography is "harder" on the diamonds than WF''s? The reason I ask is the Si2''s you linked, for me at least the inclusions are more obvious on the GOG stones..Is this the photography or just different stones in your opinion?

I had already seen this one and its on the shortlist http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2713/
But this one you found looks really nice to me. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3357/

Out of those and the first WF one, which would you pick Lorelei? And should I be looking at anything in particular with the C and P angles?
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906723.htm

If its any help, I totally fell in love with the look of Bem''s stone that we were discussing in this thread https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/what-makes-skinny-or-fat-arrows.84038/
I know Jon''s said these were specially cut - is there angles/combos I should be looking for to get a really good performer like that?
Or should I just aim for AGS000 or GIA triple Ex?
Sorry about all the questions! I''m going to continue trying to learn more!

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Hey Honey, I know I totally do! i''m so envious of all the gorgeous RB''s around here..I know its totally unhealthy, but still so much fun
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I haven''t really thought about the setting yet, but I''ll most likely do yellow gold.

Thankyou Dee for the links - the first and second are probably out of budget for what size they are...I think that one both of you linked is the winner at the moment..And although abit more than what I''d like to spend, that 1.35 you linked is tdf!!
All the numbers on these two, at a quick glance, look exactly the same - perhaps I''ve found my "taste". Or have I just not looked at enough ideals and these are the numbers on all of them!?

Thankyou Cleo for the heads up - I hope he puts up details soon!

keep any more coming..
Does anyone have a favourite at the moment? The 1.28 Si2?
 
Date: 4/29/2008 6:51:00 AM
Author: arjunajane
Thankyou Lorelei!
that first WF one you linked looks really good - I can hardly even make out the inclusions.
In your opinion, do you think GOG''s photography is ''harder'' on the diamonds than WF''s? The reason I ask is the Si2''s you linked, for me at least the inclusions are more obvious on the GOG stones..Is this the photography or just different stones in your opinion? I am not sure, but it could be down to the differences in photography as well as the different diamonds.

I had already seen this one and its on the shortlist http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2713/
But this one you found looks really nice to me. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3357/

Out of those and the first WF one, which would you pick Lorelei? And should I be looking at anything in particular with the C and P angles?
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906723.htm

Basically some use this range for crown and pavilion angles - crown 34- 35 degrees and pavilion 40.6 - 41 degrees, with further evaluation being given to stones which have a shallower combo ( CA 34/ PA 40.6) and steeper ( CA 35/ PA 41) to make sure they are complimentary for that particular diamond. But with the diamonds you are considering, they all appear to be gorgeous! I would check out which ones are eyeclean to your comfort level first, then choose from there.

If its any help, I totally fell in love with the look of Bem''s stone that we were discussing in this thread https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/what-makes-skinny-or-fat-arrows.84038/
I know Jon''s said these were specially cut - is there angles/combos I should be looking for to get a really good performer like that?
Or should I just aim for AGS000 or GIA triple Ex? You have done well with the diamonds you have selected, but yes, it seems to be good advice to stick to AGS0 and GIA Excellent cut grade, to make finding suitable diamonds easier.
Sorry about all the questions! I''m going to continue trying to learn more!

xx
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Date: 4/29/2008 7:05:18 AM
Author: arjunajane
Hey Honey, I know I totally do! i''m so envious of all the gorgeous RB''s around here..I know its totally unhealthy, but still so much fun
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I haven''t really thought about the setting yet, but I''ll most likely do yellow gold.


Thankyou Dee for the links - the first and second are probably out of budget for what size they are...I think that one both of you linked is the winner at the moment..And although abit more than what I''d like to spend, that 1.35 you linked is tdf!!

All the numbers on these two, at a quick glance, look exactly the same - perhaps I''ve found my ''taste''. Or have I just not looked at enough ideals and these are the numbers on all of them!?


Thankyou Cleo for the heads up - I hope he puts up details soon!


keep any more coming..

Does anyone have a favourite at the moment? The 1.28 Si2?
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The 1.28 I SI2 and the 1.35 J VS2 are both Isee2 diamonds so the numbers are really similar across the range or so I have found in the ones I looked at :).
 
This one gets my vote!!
 
I know Ellen, that one looks fab!! Is there any particular reason how come you said this one? The Bscope looks like its a real top performer - or am I putting too much stock in that?

Thankyou Lorelei for explaning
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I can''t believe I''ve only been a member since january and already looking for a second stone...
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And you''ve helped me with both!

Thx Dee for mentioning that - I actually hadn''t even realized they were Isee2, but i''ve only heard good things about them..
 
Date: 4/29/2008 8:12:04 AM
Author: arjunajane
I know Ellen, that one looks fab!! Is there any particular reason how come you said this one? The Bscope looks like its a real top performer - or am I putting too much stock in that?

Thankyou Lorelei for explaning
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I can't believe I've only been a member since january and already looking for a second stone...
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And you've helped me with both!

Thx Dee for mentioning that - I actually hadn't even realized they were Isee2, but i've only heard good things about them..
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You are very welcome and I like to enable....
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That is also a killer stone Ellen picked!!! AND a very nice size! I think the thing is with BrillianceScope and suchlike, that opinions vary with these technologies, but with a diamond such as this, with great numbers and IS images, which is also an AGS0, that it is well and truly proven to pass many cut performance evaluations, so it is very likely to be a stunner!
 
Date: 4/29/2008 8:12:04 AM
Author: arjunajane
I know Ellen, that one looks fab!! Is there any particular reason how come you said this one? The Bscope looks like its a real top performer - or am I putting too much stock in that?
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Because it's the biggest?
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That, and it looks great, there's nothing not to like. And it's closing in on the 1.5 mark, so visually there won't be a big difference. My 1.4 has been guessed at a 1.5, and your's isn't too far off from mine.
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As for the Bscope, they are fun to look at, but really don't tell much definitively. There is disageement among experts as to what/how/if it really measures light performance. Your IS pic, and the numbers are what you really want to focus on, and this one is shining!
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p.s. Reserve that bad boy if you need time to think!
 
Date: 4/29/2008 8:23:07 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/29/2008 8:12:04 AM
Author: arjunajane
I know Ellen, that one looks fab!! Is there any particular reason how come you said this one? The Bscope looks like its a real top performer - or am I putting too much stock in that?
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Because it''s the biggest?
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That, and it looks great, there''s nothing not to like. And it''s closing in on the 1.5 mark, so visually there won''t be a big difference. My 1.4 has been guessed at a 1.5, and your''s isn''t too far off from mine.
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As for the Bscope, they are fun to look at, but really don''t tell much definitively. There is disageement among experts as to what/how/if it really measures light performance. Your IS pic, and the numbers are what you really want to focus on, and this one is shining!
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p.s. Reserve that bad boy if you need time to think!
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I was going to say that too, that will get snapped up quickly, so please reserve it if you would like to buy it!
 
Date: 4/29/2008 7:25:44 AM
Author: Ellen
This one gets my vote!!
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Havent look thru the rest of them but that one is yummy.
Id buy it in a heartbeat!

re photos: gog and wf(JA and Infinity too for that matter) take regular photos in totally different lighting and setups they don''t have much in common other than they are photos of diamonds.
its neither bad nor good just is and they work in my opinion.
The gog setup for the standard pics does show inclusions more in my opinion, then he adds the darkfields that show every detail of the inclusions.
 
Date: 4/29/2008 8:29:05 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/29/2008 8:23:07 AM
Author: Ellen


Date: 4/29/2008 8:12:04 AM
Author: arjunajane
I know Ellen, that one looks fab!! Is there any particular reason how come you said this one? The Bscope looks like its a real top performer - or am I putting too much stock in that?
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Because it''s the biggest?
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That, and it looks great, there''s nothing not to like. And it''s closing in on the 1.5 mark, so visually there won''t be a big difference. My 1.4 has been guessed at a 1.5, and your''s isn''t too far off from mine.
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As for the Bscope, they are fun to look at, but really don''t tell much definitively. There is disageement among experts as to what/how/if it really measures light performance. Your IS pic, and the numbers are what you really want to focus on, and this one is shining!
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p.s. Reserve that bad boy if you need time to think!
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I was going to say that too, that will get snapped up quickly, so please reserve it if you would like to buy it!
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Awwww...you guys Had to go and pick the one thats *just* (well, about 1k
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) outta my price range...
How about the I SI2? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3357/

Does anybody want to compare them for me, as they seem real similiar to my uneducated self..?
 
Date: 4/29/2008 12:19:15 PM
Author: arjunajane

Date: 4/29/2008 8:29:05 AM
Author: Lorelei


Date: 4/29/2008 8:23:07 AM
Author: Ellen



Date: 4/29/2008 8:12:04 AM
Author: arjunajane
I know Ellen, that one looks fab!! Is there any particular reason how come you said this one? The Bscope looks like its a real top performer - or am I putting too much stock in that?
Click to expand...
Because it''s the biggest?
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That, and it looks great, there''s nothing not to like. And it''s closing in on the 1.5 mark, so visually there won''t be a big difference. My 1.4 has been guessed at a 1.5, and your''s isn''t too far off from mine.
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As for the Bscope, they are fun to look at, but really don''t tell much definitively. There is disageement among experts as to what/how/if it really measures light performance. Your IS pic, and the numbers are what you really want to focus on, and this one is shining!
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p.s. Reserve that bad boy if you need time to think!
Click to expand...
I was going to say that too, that will get snapped up quickly, so please reserve it if you would like to buy it!
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Awwww...you guys Had to go and pick the one thats *just* (well, about 1k
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) outta my price range...
How about the I SI2? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3357/

Does anybody want to compare them for me, as they seem real similiar to my uneducated self..?
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AJ, that one is another winner, again check if eyeclean, if so it could be a great choice!!!
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Date: 4/29/2008 12:21:10 PM
Author: Lorelei

AJ, that one is another winner, again check if eyeclean, if so it could be a great choice!!!
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Thanks guys for the opinions.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this one as compared to the previous two? Is the slightly larger table anything at all to be concerned with?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2713/

Thankyou all for your help!
 
Date: 4/30/2008 5:28:23 AM
Author: arjunajane
Thanks guys for the opinions.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this one as compared to the previous two? Is the slightly larger table anything at all to be concerned with?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2713/

Thankyou all for your help!
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Again this looks good, you are picking some excellent stones AJ!!! If you are having a hard time choosing, and also you have to weigh up a colour grade up or down etc, then if you are ready to buy, I would ask Jon which diamond has the personality which would suit your preferences the most.
 
Date: 4/30/2008 5:55:15 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/30/2008 5:28:23 AM
Author: arjunajane
Thanks guys for the opinions.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this one as compared to the previous two? Is the slightly larger table anything at all to be concerned with?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2713/

Thankyou all for your help!
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Again this looks good, you are picking some excellent stones AJ!!! If you are having a hard time choosing, and also you have to weigh up a colour grade up or down etc, then if you are ready to buy, I would ask Jon which diamond has the personality which would suit your preferences the most.
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Thankyou Lorelei,
so basically you''re saying those three are "much of a muchness"..?
I will probably have to hassle Jon for another vid soon I think...


But, I have another question..should I trade in my PoH for a bigger RB, or get closer to the 1ct mark and keep both..? I can''t believe I''m even asking this so soon...
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Date: 4/30/2008 6:25:35 AM
Author: arjunajane





Date: 4/30/2008 5:55:15 AM
Author: Lorelei






Date: 4/30/2008 5:28:23 AM
Author: arjunajane
Thanks guys for the opinions.

Does anybody have any thoughts on this one as compared to the previous two? Is the slightly larger table anything at all to be concerned with?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2713/

Thankyou all for your help!
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Again this looks good, you are picking some excellent stones AJ!!! If you are having a hard time choosing, and also you have to weigh up a colour grade up or down etc, then if you are ready to buy, I would ask Jon which diamond has the personality which would suit your preferences the most.
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Thankyou Lorelei,
so basically you're saying those three are 'much of a muchness'..? In a way, they are all well cut diamonds and I personally don't think you can go wrong with any of them, it is a case of weighing up what matters to you most with colour, clarity, which ones are verified eyeclean etc. That is why I think Jon's opinion would be very helpful in order to determine which diamond might have the best personality for you.
I will probably have to hassle Jon for another vid soon I think...


But, I have another question..should I trade in my PoH for a bigger RB, or get closer to the 1ct mark and keep both..? I can't believe I'm even asking this so soon...
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As to trading in the PoH, you certainly could do that if you wanted, to see if you could jump a bit higher with the carat weight!!!
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But it depends on you as to what you would rather do. It is a good idea to get you that larger size if that is what you value more!!

Then that could get you this... http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4044/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4076/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4316/
 
I think you need to decide first if you want to trade in your POH, then we can help you go from there, because that certainly would change things.
 
Aww, Lorelei I''m sorry I didn''t explain myself properly. I''ll try to clarify:
I meant, either keep the PoH and get something about 1 - 1.15cts or
trade in and get something ~ 1.3 to 1.4ish.
Thankyou for looking at the larger ones for me though, that last J looks soo nice! I''m afraid the 1.5ct mark is just plain out of range though. And to be honest for my personal circumstances, I would prefer the 1 - 1.3 range. (but ask me again in a year!)....

Ellen, yeah I know, its such early days I haven''t really decided anything. And basically I''m not in a huge rush or anything, so it will probably just be *if* I find that awesome stone I''ll decide then what to do.
If I do upgrade to this I will be re sizing my ering for my right hand, so I won''t be bling-less there...but I do awfully love my PoH..

aarrghh..DSS and diamond envy sux!
 
I understand!!
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Just putting myself in your shoes...
Once you see the ideal H&A Isee2 diamond in your hands, your other stone may never look as good to your eyes.
Although I am sure that working with Jonathan you got a beautiful sparkly stone to begin with, do you really need 2 rings, or would you rather have just one but out of this world gorgeous and a little larger?
Just a thought...
 
If I had the money to spend, I''d buy that 1.35 J TODAY!!! It''s absolutely gorgeous and looks like an all around performer.
 
Thankyou for the other opinions.
Spirit, thankyou for your post - I guess I hadn''t really thought about it like that..no, I don''t *need* two rings, however i just feel kinda bad giving up on my PoH so quickly!
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Thnx rock for your input.
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Hi AJ
What about this one? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4315/ 1.52, K, si, HCA 1.4
I''m not sure if it''s a great diamond (kind of new to this), so sorry if I''ve suggested a bad one, but to my untrained eyes, I thought it looked interesting, I realise it is a colour lower than you were considering, but it is quite large
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and I thought I''ve read that fluorescence make lower diamonds appear whiter?

Anyways, just thought I''d throw it out there! (Sorry it if it''s a bad suggestion)

I love your POH and reckon you should keep it!
 
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