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Final stretch, been reading a lot on this website.
This is on BN so no full details (SI).

#1 GIA: Table 57%, Crown 34.0, Pavillion 40.8, Depth, 61.3%, Girdle 3.5% (thin - medium)
GCAL: Table 57.0%, Crown 34.3, Pavillion 40.9, Depth, 61.5%

#2 GIA: Table 56%, Crown 34.5, Pavillion 40.8, Depth, 61.3%, Girdle 3.0% (thin-medium)
GCAL: Table 56.0%, Crown 34.5, Pavillion 40.7, Depth, 61.0%

The GCAL measurements for #1 when put into HCA comes out E,E,V,V instead of E,E,E,V for the GIA measurements. I don''t know which one to believe! #2 comes out E,E,E,V for both on HCA.

Also, the "optical brilliance analysis" of #1 on GCAL has slightly darker shading - is this at all indicative of quality?

Prices for these seem reasonable when I search with pricescope. I''m youngish so I suppose the women like to look at them up close!

Thanks a bunch for your input!
 
Date: 9/1/2009 12:17:22 AM
Author:nuts
Final stretch, been reading a lot on this website.
This is on BN so no full details (SI).

#1 GIA: Table 57%, Crown 34.0, Pavillion 40.8, Depth, 61.3%, Girdle 3.5% (thin - medium)
GCAL: Table 57.0%, Crown 34.3, Pavillion 40.9, Depth, 61.5%

#2 GIA: Table 56%, Crown 34.5, Pavillion 40.8, Depth, 61.3%, Girdle 3.0% (thin-medium)
GCAL: Table 56.0%, Crown 34.5, Pavillion 40.7, Depth, 61.0%

The GCAL measurements for #1 when put into HCA comes out E,E,V,V instead of E,E,E,V for the GIA measurements. I don't know which one to believe! #2 comes out E,E,E,V for both on HCA.

Also, the 'optical brilliance analysis' of #1 on GCAL has slightly darker shading - is this at all indicative of quality?

Prices for these seem reasonable when I search with pricescope. I'm youngish so I suppose the women like to look at them up close!

Thanks a bunch for your input!

Welcome!

Don't go by the HCA for selection, it is used as an elimination tool. Both diamonds have good potential but thats as much as can be said without images which BN don't provide. As to the photomicrographs I personally don't find them easy to interpret. If you could post the star and lower girdle facet percentages too that will help, those will be on the diamond diagram on the report.

If I had to choose I would pick the second one as it has very ' safe' numbers and ' should' be a good looking diamond, plus BN have an excellent return policy. Concerning the clarity, do you know if these are eyeclean or not if SI clarity?
 
I would go with #2.
 
Both 55%, 75% on GIA.

Both are signature ideal and VS2

What makes #1 little bit less ideal in comparison? I was leaning towards a lower crown as I thought it gives it slightly greater brilliance that's important when people look up close.
 
Date: 9/1/2009 8:18:51 AM
Author: nuts
Both 55%, 75% on GIA.

Both are VS2

What makes #1 little bit less ideal in comparison? I was leaning towards a lower crown as I thought it gives it slightly greater brilliance that's important when people look up close.
It can in some cases, if that is your preference then maybe the first one might be the best choice, I chose the second as the angles are nicely balanced but both are well cut diamonds from what I can tell.
 
Great, thanks!

These are both VS2 and have similar types of inclusions, but does it matter where these inclusions are?
 
Date: 9/1/2009 8:32:52 AM
Author: nuts
Great, thanks!

These are both VS2 and have similar types of inclusions, but does it matter where these inclusions are?
Most welcome! VS2 should be ok concerning inclusions, what are they for each diamond out of interest? I would not anticipate any problems with VS2 however, only time I would be a little concerned is if there was a feather which hit the girdle for example but even then the chances of that being an issue are slight.
 
Looks like #2 has a feather that looks like it extends to the edge. #1 I think has a cloud (looks loopy, so I assume is not a feather). I guess perfect diamonds are harder to find than I thought.

How about this one?

#3 GIA: Table 57%, Crown 34.0, Pavillion 40.8, Depth, 61.2%, girdle 3.5% (medium-slightly thick). star 50%, lower girdle 80%
GCAL: Table 57.0%, Crown 34.2, Pavillion 40.9, Depth, 61.4%, girdle 2.0%

This inclusion''s just crystal and cloud (bunched near middle of crown).
 
So #3 is also E,E,V,V with the GCAL measurements...

How bad is a fracture line at the edge - the line is red on the GIA, does that mean it doesn''t extend to the edge?

I would be putting this on a 6 prong, does it effect the look of the diamond? As I understand it, this has a minimal chance of cracking?

Thanks
 
All of these have potential, assuming they are VS clarity you should be fine for the inclusions, do bear in mind though that with bad luck any diamond can crack or break, even very high clarity stones. What I would do if you are concerned, get an independant appraiser to inspect your purchase, BN do give 30 days so plenty of time to get an appraiser to check out your diamond, this could give you peace of mind.

https://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx
 
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