HELP! Indented naturals

[PA2013]

Hello, I just purchased a diamond with these qualities:

GIA certified
Ct: 1.5
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
Cut: Ideal
Fluorescense: Medium

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamo...ty_LD03189994?keyword_search_value=LD03189994

A jeweler told me that the inclusions on the bottom of this diamond were too close together and may cause a durability issue. I'm worried that my diamond may crack when I put it in a setting. I plan on buying insurance but I definitely don't want my diamond to crack either. I put the url link for the GIA report above. I have 30 days to return my diamond. Please help!

 

[SMC]

I'm not an expert. I don't think you should be concerned about durability in a VS1. Also, the indented natural is in the girdle and the feather is in the table, so where's the concern about it being too close together?

Do you like the stone? It only scored a 2.8 on the HCA - people here generally recommend a score of less than 2.
https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

 

[kenny]

Hello, I just purchased a diamond with these qualities:

GIA certified
Ct: 1.5
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
Cut: Ideal
Fluorescense: Medium

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamo...ty_LD03189994?keyword_search_value=LD03189994

A jeweler told me that the inclusions on the bottom of this diamond were too close together and may cause a durability issue. I'm worried that my diamond may crack when I put it in a setting. I plan on buying insurance but I definitely don't want my diamond to crack either. I put the url link for the GIA report above. I have 30 days to return my diamond. Please help!

"A jeweler" ???

If that means you bought a loose diamond from Bluenile and are asking someone else to set it the problem is obvious.
There's no concern about a GIA VS1 with indented natural listed as the least-grade-setting inclusion.

This jeweler wants you to return the diamond and buy one from her/him so (s)he makes more money.
I'd find another jeweler to set it, actually Bluenile should set it if you can live with one of their settings.

 

[kenny]

Hello, I just purchased a diamond with these qualities:

GIA certified
Ct: 1.5
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
Cut: Ideal
Fluorescense: Medium

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamo...ty_LD03189994?keyword_search_value=LD03189994

A jeweler told me that the inclusions on the bottom of this diamond were too close together and may cause a durability issue. I'm worried that my diamond may crack when I put it in a setting. I plan on buying insurance but I definitely don't want my diamond to crack either. I put the url link for the GIA report above. I have 30 days to return my diamond. Please help!

"A jeweler" ???

If that means you bought a loose diamond from Bluenile and are asking someone else to set it the problem is obvious.
There's no concern about a GIA VS1 with indented natural listed as the least-grade-setting inclusion.

This jeweler wants you to return the diamond and buy one from her/him so (s)he makes more money.
I'd find another jeweler to set it, actually Bluenile should set it if you can live with one of their settings.

 

[PA2013]

Thanks for your help! The jeweler said that the 4 indented naturals on the girdle are too close together and may pose a durability issue. But when I called blue nile, they said at a VS1 quality, I shouldn't worry. I didn't know who to believe. The diamond comes in sometime this week so I haven't seen it yet.

As far as the 2.8 score. Should I be concerned? I've never heard of that before. I'm a first time buyer (hopefully last, since I don't plan on upgrading). I want to make sure this is a good diamond. I got it for a little under 14k. It's the best deal I've seen in awhile. What's your take on it? Thanks in advance.

 

[PA2013]

Thanks for your input. I did think that she might have been a little biased. She only saw the GIA report because I don't have the diamond yet. I already have a setting that I really like so hopefully I can find someone who will help me set the diamond. Thanks again!

 

[SMC]

Thanks for your help! The jeweler said that the 4 indented naturals on the girdle are too close together and may pose a durability issue. But when I called blue nile, they said at a VS1 quality, I shouldn't worry. I didn't know who to believe. The diamond comes in sometime this week so I haven't seen it yet.

As far as the 2.8 score. Should I be concerned? I've never heard of that before. I'm a first time buyer (hopefully last, since I don't plan on upgrading). I want to make sure this is a good diamond. I got it for a little under 14k. It's the best deal I've seen in awhile. What's your take on it? Thanks in advance.

You want an HCA score under 2 generally. I personally think a VS1 is overkill because there are plenty of eye clean SI1 diamonds out there. I personally would get a larger or cheaper SI1 diamond that's eye clean with an HCA < 2.0. People on this forum are more obsessive about cuts than the general public - in the absence of another diamond to compare your diamond to, you won't notice that your GIA XXX is marginally less sparkly than another. Let's put it this way - there's no way that a GIA XXX will be a dog.

I recommend James Allen for diamond purchases because they have pictures of the diamonds, you can get Idealscopes to assess light performance, and you can get a gemologist to confirm if it's eye clean or not. If you want the best of the best of the best and don't want to sift through diamonds, you also can't go wrong with anything from Brian Gavin's Signature line or Whiteflash's A Cut Above (though I don't think you will be able to find a 1.5 ct G in your budget from either vendor).

 

[PA2013]

Thanks for your help! The jeweler said that the 4 indented naturals on the girdle are too close together and may pose a durability issue. But when I called blue nile, they said at a VS1 quality, I shouldn't worry. I didn't know who to believe. The diamond comes in sometime this week so I haven't seen it yet.

As far as the 2.8 score. Should I be concerned? I've never heard of that before. I'm a first time buyer (hopefully last, since I don't plan on upgrading). I want to make sure this is a good diamond. I got it for a little under 14k. It's the best deal I've seen in awhile. What's your take on it? Thanks in advance.

You want an HCA score under 2 generally. I personally think a VS1 is overkill because there are plenty of eye clean SI1 diamonds out there. I personally would get a larger or cheaper SI1 diamond that's eye clean with an HCA < 2.0. People on this forum are more obsessive about cuts than the general public - in the absence of another diamond to compare your diamond to, you won't notice that your GIA XXX is marginally less sparkly than another. Let's put it this way - there's no way that a GIA XXX will be a dog.

I recommend James Allen for diamond purchases because they have pictures of the diamonds, you can get Idealscopes to assess light performance, and you can get a gemologist to confirm if it's eye clean or not. If you want the best of the best of the best and don't want to sift through diamonds, you also can't go wrong with anything from Brian Gavin's Signature line or Whiteflash's A Cut Above (though I don't think you will be able to find a 1.5 ct G in your budget from either vendor).

Thanks for your thorough input! I did some reading on HCA. I guess I'll wait until I see the diamond and see if I want to keep it.

 

[PS34one]

Hi PA2013,
About the indented naturals.... I agree with the other posters who say that there should be no durability problems with a VS stone. I can see on the report that the indented naturals are on the pavilion near the girdle. A skilled Jeweler can set this and avoid even putting the prongs in that area at all if they want to. However, I don't even think that would be necessary unless the Indented naturals were so deep they were affecting the girdle thickness. A girdle that is dangerously thin can reduce durability in that area and make a stone difficult to set. Your stone says on the report the Girdle thickness is "medium" to "slightly thick." That a fine place to be. I wouldn't worry about what "Jeweler X" said.

 

[PA2013]

Hi PA2013,
About the indented naturals.... I agree with the other posters who say that there should be no durability problems with a VS stone. I can see on the report that the indented naturals are on the pavilion near the girdle. A skilled Jeweler can set this and avoid even putting the prongs in that area at all if they want to. However, I don't even think that would be necessary unless the Indented naturals were so deep they were affecting the girdle thickness. A girdle that is dangerously thin can reduce durability in that area and make a stone difficult to set. Your stone says on the report the Girdle thickness is "medium" to "slightly thick." That a fine place to be. I wouldn't worry about what "Jeweler X" said.

Thank you so much for your input. That definitely makes me feel better. I'm not just worried about the HCA score of 2.8. I'm reading a lot of mixed reviews. The GIA report is ideal cut with excellent symmetry and polish. I guess I'll have to wait and see the actual diamond.

Does anyone think that an HCA score above 2 is an absolute no? Should I not consider it at all anymore?

 

[PA2013]

[/quote] Thank you so much for your input. That definitely makes me feel better. I'm not just worried about the HCA score of 2.8. I'm reading a lot of mixed reviews. The GIA report is ideal cut with excellent symmetry and polish. I guess I'll have to wait and see the actual diamond.

Does anyone think that an HCA score above 2 is an absolute no? Should I not consider it at all anymore?[/quote]

I meant to say I am *now* worried about an HCA score of 2.8.

 

[diamonds-are-friends]

a vs1 graded by gia has no durability issues. if it does, it would be graded at si2 or I's.

 

[PS34one]

I have to be honest and say that I don't know anything about the HCA score, all of my knowledge is in the GIA and AGS cut grade systems. I do feel compelled to say that to completely write off a diamond that has a GIA EX, EX, would be....... silly.
GIA is considered one of the top labs in the world for a reason. (At the same time, an "Ideal" cut grade is a slightly higher standard reserved for AGS Reports.) I think your stone is going to look beautiful! Be carefull not to second guess yourself too much or you may cause yourself unnecessary headache!
Nothing against the HCA. Just consider all the other positive attributes of this diamonds.

 

[PA2013]

I have to be honest and say that I don't know anything about the HCA score, all of my knowledge is in the GIA and AGS cut grade systems. I do feel compelled to say that to completely write off a diamond that has a GIA EX, EX, would be....... silly.
GIA is considered one of the top labs in the world for a reason. (At the same time, an "Ideal" cut grade is a slightly higher standard reserved for AGS Reports.) I think your stone is going to look beautiful! Be carefull not to second guess yourself too much or you may cause yourself unnecessary headache!
Nothing against the HCA. Just consider all the other positive attributes of this diamonds.

Thank you so much! That was much needed. haha I spent all night researching it and then found myself going crazy about the table size of a diamond. I can't wait to see the diamond for myself!

 

[PS34one]

Ha Ha! oh no!
Well, I think that's why you buy a diamond with a Report from a reliable Laboratory. Let GIA worry about all the Table and Crown percentages and trust the Grades the professionals put on the report. Its good to educate yourself but at the end of the day when the diamond is on your hand and its beautiful and its good spec's all around and you stayed in your budget what's to worry about?!
So exciting!