Help! How does this RB diamond look??

[LoveMeDo]

Please help me if you know about Round diamonds!

1.01
SI1
G Color

6.43 x 6.34 x 4.01mm

Depth: 62.7
Table: 58%
Crown: 14.2
Pavilion: 44.4
Girdle: Thin to SL Thick
Cutlet: none
Polish: good
Symmetry: good
Flourescence: none

Price: $3900

Also, does anyone have that chart where I can match up my numbers with the different quality levels of diamonds?

 

[belle]

you can run the numbers through the hca (holloway cut advisor) in the ''tools'' drop down menu above
if your main criteria is to find a 1ct. diamond for less than 4k...this fits the bill. it''s not a top cut by any means but it is priced right.

 

[LoveMeDo]

what would a top cut be? just curious!

 

[LoveMeDo]

I''m confused because that cut advisor says that the depth is dangerously thin....According to a chart I just read, it should be in class 1A! I don''t understand...

 

[belle]

Date: 4/20/2006 7:07:19 PM
Author: LoveMeDo
I''m confused because that cut advisor says that the depth is dangerously thin....According to a chart I just read, it should be in class 1A! I don''t understand...

you need to make sure you are using % when you input the numbers. you don''t have the angles on this stone.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 4/20/2006 6:59:47 PM
Author: LoveMeDo
what would a top cut be? just curious!

a few months ago i pick out a 1.01ct G SI1 (for a friend

) ES from WF for $5150. if you want their top cut ACA H&A maybe...add another 8%?

 

[linvillegorge]

I don''t know. It seems suspiciously cheap to me. A true 1 carat rock under $4k? I don''t know...

 

[LoveMeDo]

No need to be suspicious. It''s certified and from our trusted jeweler who we always work with. I was just curious about how good the stone was. It looks great!

 

[Agent3Civ]

well if you think it looks great, that''s the most important thing!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 4/20/2006 11:44:45 PM
Author: LoveMeDo
No need to be suspicious. It''s certified and from our trusted jeweler who we always work with. I was just curious about how good the stone was. It looks great!

by what lab?

 

[jasontb]

my bad

 

[JulieN]

5.9 HCA, with 0-2 being excellent; it may look great, but you haven't bought it yet

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

An average cut round G-SI1 would trade at this price between cutter and wholesaler in Antwerp.

If you can buy a G-SI1 at this price from a retail-store, it means that not something, but a lot is wrong with this stone.

Now, if what you want is a 1 Ct-stone under 4K, and you do not care about anything else, than this might be OK. The decision is yours.

Live long,

 

[linvillegorge]

^^^^^
That''s kind of what I was thinking. I was in this same general price range when I was looking at stones. I knew my stone budget couldn''t go over $4k and really should be around $3500. The only 1 carat stones that I could find simply were not acceptable. There''s a HUGE price jump as soon as that certificate says 1.0 carat. I ended up with a .91 G color SI2 (eye clean) excellent symetry and polish, excellent cut. I really wanted to stay with an ideal cut, but this stone looked great so I went for it!

Good luck!

 

[LoveMeDo]

Well, the stone looks great in person. There are absolutely no inclusions visible to the eye, and it''s even difficult to spot them with a loop. The color is great, and the stone sparkles like crazy. Our jeweler knows us and was giving us a good deal. My main curiosity was about the stats of the stone itself. I know that it LOOKS good, but I wanted to know how it measured up on paper. I don''t really care about having an ideal stone as long as it''s not yellow or sporting visible inclusions.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 4/21/2006 11:46:27 AM
Author: LoveMeDo
Well, the stone looks great in person. There are absolutely no inclusions visible to the eye, and it''s even difficult to spot them with a loop. The color is great, and the stone sparkles like crazy. Our jeweler knows us and was giving us a good deal. My main curiosity was about the stats of the stone itself. I know that it LOOKS good, but I wanted to know how it measured up on paper. I don''t really care about having an ideal stone as long as it''s not yellow or sporting visible inclusions.

the price is too low.

get this stone appraise by an independent appraiser.

 

[aljdewey]

Date: 4/21/2006 11:46:27 AM
Author: LoveMeDo
Well, the stone looks great in person. There are absolutely no inclusions visible to the eye, and it's even difficult to spot them with a loop. The color is great, and the stone sparkles like crazy. Our jeweler knows us and was giving us a good deal. My main curiosity was about the stats of the stone itself. I know that it LOOKS good, but I wanted to know how it measured up on paper. I don't really care about having an ideal stone as long as it's not yellow or sporting visible inclusions.

On paper, it's not great. For several reasons. But then again, if you don't care about having an ideal stone, the paper shouldn't matter.

You said it looks great to you, so I don't know what else you are looking for? People here aren't going to tell you this is a well-cut stone.....but they will tell you that if you like it with YOUR eyes, that's all that matters. We can't set your buying priorities for you; you know those best.

 

[Lynn B]

It has been said here before that sometimes diamonds will surprisingly defy the odds and come out gorgeous in person, even while the paper and numbers may imply otherwise. The bottom line is, we buy the diamond, not the paper. You have seen it and you love it. If you have looked around, compared it (in various lighting environments) and still adore it... then there you go! Enjoy!

 

[LoveMeDo]

Can someone tell me what exactly is wrong with the cut of this diamond? I compared the numbers to a chart that someone posted and it seemed to fall into a high category. Is it too shallow? Too deep? I''d really appreciate it if someone could explain. With all of these reactions, you''d think that this diamond could not possibly look good, but I don''t notice anything wrong with it. I really do want to know what is bad about the numbers though. Thanks!

 

[LoveMeDo]

This is the chart that I am referring to. Am I just reading this incorrectly? Please keep in mind that I do not know a TON about all of this.

 

[LoveMeDo]

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/round.asp

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 4/22/2006 3:41:02 AM
Author: LoveMeDo
Can someone tell me what exactly is wrong with the cut of this diamond? I compared the numbers to a chart that someone posted and it seemed to fall into a high category. Is it too shallow? Too deep? I''d really appreciate it if someone could explain. With all of these reactions, you''d think that this diamond could not possibly look good, but I don''t notice anything wrong with it. I really do want to know what is bad about the numbers though. Thanks!

6.43 x 6.34 mm looks out of round. a nice cut 1.01 ct should be more like 6.50 mm

62.7% looks a little deep

pavilion.. should be closer to 43%

girdle...thin to med would be better

$3900 is too cheap for a nicely cut 1.01ct G SI1.

any lab report on this stone?

 

[LoveMeDo]

Thank you, Dancing Fire! I really appreciate your explanation. It doesn''t seem like my numbers are too, too awful...I was worried that I had some kind of totally deformed stone.

I forgot to answer the question about certification. It has an EGL certificate (maybe that has something to do with the price?). I was also upgrading my stone from a princess cut (my jeweler offers trade-ins), and I was making a fuss about spending too much more money. I even asked him if he could do better than $3,900, but he said that he would usually sell the stone for around $4,300 or more and that he was cutting me a break since I was a repeat customer who clearly wasn''t happy with my original stone and that I was obviously on a strict budget.

My first stone was an H color, VS1 princess cut, but it was a bit rectangular and didn''t fit well in my ring, which was meant for round stones. When I saw the G color and the extra sparkle on my new stone, I definitely thought it was an upgrade.

 

[stermag]

Date: 4/21/2006 11:46:27 AM
Author: LoveMeDo
Well, the stone looks great in person. There are absolutely no inclusions visible to the eye, and it''s even difficult to spot them with a loop. The color is great, and the stone sparkles like crazy. Our jeweler knows us and was giving us a good deal. My main curiosity was about the stats of the stone itself. I know that it LOOKS good, but I wanted to know how it measured up on paper. I don''t really care about having an ideal stone as long as it''s not yellow or sporting visible inclusions.

Your jeweler may know you but he still has to put food on his table.

Having said that - you''re clearly in a predicament, and sounds like you need to work within his inventory to take advantage of the trade in. Knowing he''s not going to make too much money on you, he might be trying to sell you one of the lesser diamonds... just speculation, I realize, but I''d be cautious.

 

[mrssalvo]

the EGL cert could explain the lower price. Once again, if you love it and the price is right for you, that is all that matters. We just want to to know you usually get what you pay for and the stone isn't ideal, which is fine, we just don't want you to think you are purchasing something you are not. I personally would not buy a stone with and EGL cert. but stones from GIA and AGS do cost more.