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My name is Brian. I have recently moved into diamonds to buy an engagement ring for my girlfriend. I have found a stone, but I am wondering what to offer for it.
Gia report from 2008 (seller has price listed for 10,000$, which doesn't help much) When I looked at rapaport from april 2014 it shows 7700/carat for VS2 H. This is a secondary market transaction. I bought a IF G 0.75 carat round brilliant a couple of months ago for 2500 (included 40$ scrap gold in the ring). It was 6800/carat rapaport( so x 0.75 is 5100) and it had good polish/good symmetry, no culet, and ideal girdle, ideal depth, excellent depth, pavilion, and crown angles (it would have come back as a low very good cut from gia). It was an old EGL cert from 1980 back when they still had 3 people evaluate the stone. PS I haven't had the IF stone reset (girl wants white gold instead of yellow gold, and it has to be resized for her) because she wants over 1 carat now after comparing 1 carat versus 0.75 at a local jeweler (I really shot myself in the foot there). How much should I offer for this 1.39 stone? Does anyone know the most current rapaport on a 1.39 H VS2. I am also wondering how much extra to factor in because it says on the rap sheet "stones 1.25-1.49 often trade at a 5-10% premium". Should I be looking to pay about 45-48% of rapaport for this stone. I offered the guy 4300 as a start (4281 was 40% of rapaport) and he is not a dealer, he is the owner of the stone. Anyways, here are the stones details.
I had 7700 rap/carat x 1.39 x 1.05 ==4495$, is that a fairer price, taking into account secondary market used diamond and in 1.25-1.49 range and cut grade, lack of fluorescence, proportions, less than ideal girdle. I really just don't know what range I should be looking to offer for this stone. Any help would be awesome!
P.S. a dealer is where I conduced buying the 0.75 IF stone from a 3rd party owner. That dealer told me he could offer 2800-3000 for that stone. So if I get the 1.39 carat I will sell the other one back to the dealer no problem.
DIAMOND GRADING REPORT
ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements 7.15 - 7.17 x 4.45 mm
Carat Weight 1.39 carat
Color Grade H
Clarity Grade VS2
Cut Grade Excellent
PROPORTIONS
Depth 62.2 %
Table 55 %
Crown Angle 36.0°
Crown Height 16.5%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 75%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted, 3.0%
Culet None
FINISH
Polish Very Good
Symmetry Excellent
FLUORESCENCE
Fluorescence None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS
Clarity Characteristics Crystal, Feather, Pinpoint
COMMENTS
Additional pinpoints are not shown.
Gia report from 2008 (seller has price listed for 10,000$, which doesn't help much) When I looked at rapaport from april 2014 it shows 7700/carat for VS2 H. This is a secondary market transaction. I bought a IF G 0.75 carat round brilliant a couple of months ago for 2500 (included 40$ scrap gold in the ring). It was 6800/carat rapaport( so x 0.75 is 5100) and it had good polish/good symmetry, no culet, and ideal girdle, ideal depth, excellent depth, pavilion, and crown angles (it would have come back as a low very good cut from gia). It was an old EGL cert from 1980 back when they still had 3 people evaluate the stone. PS I haven't had the IF stone reset (girl wants white gold instead of yellow gold, and it has to be resized for her) because she wants over 1 carat now after comparing 1 carat versus 0.75 at a local jeweler (I really shot myself in the foot there). How much should I offer for this 1.39 stone? Does anyone know the most current rapaport on a 1.39 H VS2. I am also wondering how much extra to factor in because it says on the rap sheet "stones 1.25-1.49 often trade at a 5-10% premium". Should I be looking to pay about 45-48% of rapaport for this stone. I offered the guy 4300 as a start (4281 was 40% of rapaport) and he is not a dealer, he is the owner of the stone. Anyways, here are the stones details.
I had 7700 rap/carat x 1.39 x 1.05 ==4495$, is that a fairer price, taking into account secondary market used diamond and in 1.25-1.49 range and cut grade, lack of fluorescence, proportions, less than ideal girdle. I really just don't know what range I should be looking to offer for this stone. Any help would be awesome!
P.S. a dealer is where I conduced buying the 0.75 IF stone from a 3rd party owner. That dealer told me he could offer 2800-3000 for that stone. So if I get the 1.39 carat I will sell the other one back to the dealer no problem.
DIAMOND GRADING REPORT
ROUND BRILLIANT
Measurements 7.15 - 7.17 x 4.45 mm
Carat Weight 1.39 carat
Color Grade H
Clarity Grade VS2
Cut Grade Excellent
PROPORTIONS
Depth 62.2 %
Table 55 %
Crown Angle 36.0°
Crown Height 16.5%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 75%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted, 3.0%
Culet None
FINISH
Polish Very Good
Symmetry Excellent
FLUORESCENCE
Fluorescence None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS
Clarity Characteristics Crystal, Feather, Pinpoint
COMMENTS
Additional pinpoints are not shown.
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