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lidmndgrl

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Can someone please help us out?

My finace purchased 2 rings from Whitehall Jewelers in December 2006 and poposed on 06 Jan 2007. He gave me both rings to wear as an engagement set with a third to be purchased for our wedding in September 2007. The main ring consists of a 1ct princess/whitestar cut stone set in a .75 ct pave 18kt white gold band. The second band is .50 ct pave in 18kt white gold.

All was great until the morning after the engagement when I saw my rings in the daylight. The main ring''s center setting was clearly off-center and the prongs were uneven and mis-shapen. I reluctantly pointed this out to my fiance after a few days, having confirmed my thoughts with some of my friends. I also brought it to another jeweler without telling my fiancee and he bawked at the condition of the ring. I did not want to hurt his feelings as he was very proud of the ring, he insisted on picking it out himself and only took me to stores to get an idea of what i wanted, as I wanted the pave setting with a square/rectangular stone.

He brought the ring back to Whitehall and they reset it; the setting was setill not perfect but I could not bear to tell him again so I let it go. About 2 months later, I was taking off my rings to wash my hands when one of the pave diamonds fell out of the second ring. My fiancee brought the ring back and they reset it.

Last Friday I was in the Mall and went into Lundstroms jewelers (the sister company of Whitehall) and asked for my rings to be cleaned. The lady took both my rings to the steamer and gasped....the center stone had fallen out of the main ring. The steamer had not even turned on, she had simply turned the ring upside down and the stone fell out. She would not clean the second ring and graciously gave me the first ring and the main stone in 2 separate bags to bring back to my jeweler. She was in shock as was I and could not believe this happened to a five-month old ring.

Because this was now the third issue with these rings I was done and have lost any confidence in Whitehalls work.

So last night we brought the ring back to Whitehall and to cut a lon and extermely frustrating story short they refused to give us a refund. They offered to "reset or upgrade the stone/setting" When i asked who would be paying for the upgrade i found out it would be us!!! How nice!
They refuted any claims that this was their fault and claimed I caused the stone to become loose through wear & tear......for 5 months! The manager never once aplogized for my distress, nor was he in any way polite or concerned about the fact that I came close to losing my diamond. He brought over a nother salelady who claiming on eof her prongs broke once and she almost lost her diamond.....i was fuming! I aske dif her ring was 5 month sold when this happned, to which she asnswered no.

The manager then brought one of the jewelers out, who proceeded to accuse me of loosening the stone and began to ask me to be quiet when I told him I had never heard of a center stone falling out of an engagement ring, my mother''s ring is 33 years old and this never happened, how the hell did it happen to mine? He then began laughing at me because I was upset which was unbelievable. I repeated my stance that I did not want any more products fromt hem as i had no confidence in their products after all of the issues we had. I explained how I had a desk job, did not got to the gym, took my rings off every night and every time I wash my hands or bathe and could not understand how the setting became loose!

I told them this could have been resolved if they agrreed to give me refund in the firast place as this was a faulty product, not simply a case of me not liking the ring. They said they could not authorize a refund after 90 days as this would need to come from higher management. I then asked for the contact information for the corporate offices and voiced my disbelief at how I had been treated.

I called the Customer Service number which was an answering service and was told a Regioanl manager would be in touch with me within 24-48 hours.

I have not heard anything as of now. I am devastated about this.

Does anyone have any inout or advice for us on how to proceed?
 
1. I would send a certified letter to the regional manager describing your situation in detail and what it is you want from them.

2. I would call the regional manager''s office every day (or every other day) until I spoke to an actual person, or one called me back.

That''s where I''d start.
 
I''d get an independant appraiser''s written assessment of the setting. And if they continue to be difficult, I would ask any lawyer friends I have if I could give them a buck, and have them send an official sounding letter off, saying that you have retained their services (that''s what the buck is for). You will hear a response.

Also I would get hte CEO''s number and give his SECRETARY a call. These assistant''s jobs are to keep worry and stress from getting to their bosses... THEY will make the call to whoever needs to be called and they will see that the issue is resolved... to keep thier bosses from being involved. The Assistant of an Executive Officer at a company has a lot of clout.
 
I agree with BOTH firegoddess and gypsy. If those things don''t get you anywhere, call the Consumer Protection agency in your state. They will have lawyers there that can help you sort through the process and get what you need.
 
Date: 6/12/2007 3:19:23 PM
Author: Gypsy
I''d get an independant appraiser''s written assessment of the setting. And if they continue to be difficult, I would ask any lawyer friends I have if I could give them a buck, and have them send an official sounding letter off, saying that you have retained their services (that''s what the buck is for). You will hear a response.
Whoops - meant to have this as #3 but got sidetracked and hit send...this will definitely help your case if the appraiser says the setting is poorly made.
 
So sorry to read this. I''m glad that the stone didn''t get lost. Hope that this works out for you. Keep us informed.
 
Yikes! so sorry this happened to your ring. Hope they make it right for you.
 
I am so sorry this is happening to you! The way you were treated is absolutely uncalled for, period! They seriously LAUGHED at your upset?! Unbelievable! Call the regional manager, daily as was already suggested. When you do finally get in touch with that person, if they still do not resolve this issue, move on up the chain of command. Good luck to you, I really hope this story has a happy ending for you.
 
Thank you all for your comments, they are greatly appreciated.

As of last night i still had not heard from the Regional Manager and i called the Corporate Customer Care again. The lady apologized (first one!) and was very sympathetic about what happened. She said i should call back again if i did not hear from the Regional manager by tonight.

I went on the NY state dept of consumer affairs and completed the complaint form. I am waiting to see if the Regional Manager has the decency to call me back today.
 
Any update? Has anyone called you yet? Remember we''re all behind you on this one.
 
Nope, no call from the Regional manager as yet.

I plan to call the Corporate HQ this afternoon when I get out of work.....I can''t believe no on e has got back to me....really bad Customer Service
 
I would make the call a daily part of my routine each morning till I got to speak to the regional manager, if they can''t be bothered to call back.
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So, I called the Corp HQ and got put throught to the same complaint line I was orginally on. I explained this was my third call and had still not been contacted by a reginal manager. The shift supervisor said she would flag it and have someone call me today.

At 12.15 i got a call from the "lovely" store manager I dealt with last Monday, I was in a meeting and saif i would call him ack. I really did not want to speakw this guy again, so my fiance called him.

Basically, my fiance told him he did not want to speak with him , he wanted to speak with is supervisor. He told my fiance they wanted us to come in and sit with the jeweler and watch him re-set the ring in front of us. My fiance told him he did not want to speak with im about this further, but wanted to hear directly from the regional manager. This was 10 minutes ago

These people have absolutely no customer awareness or focus whatsoever!! Imagine having the guy who I had to deal with last week call us, when we were told 3 times a regional manager would contact us.

How do they stay in business?
 
wow, what a terrible experience! i am so sorry for what you are going through. i''ll keep my fingers crossed for you!
 
Thank you all again for your support, I really can''t believe this is happening to us.
 
Hang in there. What a horrible experience and what terrible customer service. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you and hope you get a satisfactory ending to this unpleasant experience.
 
I don''t have any advice, but I just wanted to say sorry about what you are going through. Hopefully things will work out, I will cross my fingers for you guys.
 
I just got a call from the store AGAIN!!

This time an assistant wanted to know what the issue was....had I tried to make a return there? I explained the situation briefly, I had tried to make a return and was refused a refund. I saud i was waiting on a call from the Regional Manager & did not want to discuss it any further until then. She then excused herself and came back to say the store manager was on the ohone to the regional manager right now and the RM would be contacting me.....

We shall see.....
 
Date: 6/12/2007 2:40:07 PM
Author:lidmndgrl

The lady took both my rings to the steamer and gasped....the center stone had fallen out of the main ring. The steamer had not even turned on, she had simply turned the ring upside down and the stone fell out.
When I read this I gasped, too...almost hard enough to create a vacuum in the room. I cannot imagine such a thing happening and I am so shocked you didn''t lose your diamond. I don''t have any advice but I am so sorry about what you are going through. Best of luck!
 
How awful. I can''t believe they treated you that way. I am glad you didn''t loose your diamond. I don''t see how a store can stay in business if they treat customers like they treated you. Good luck and I hope you get your money back. They don''t deserve any of your business.
 
Date: 6/18/2007 12:57:25 PM
Author: lidmndgrl
So, I called the Corp HQ and got put throught to the same complaint line I was orginally on. I explained this was my third call and had still not been contacted by a reginal manager. The shift supervisor said she would flag it and have someone call me today.

At 12.15 i got a call from the ''lovely'' store manager I dealt with last Monday, I was in a meeting and saif i would call him ack. I really did not want to speakw this guy again, so my fiance called him.

Basically, my fiance told him he did not want to speak with him , he wanted to speak with is supervisor. He told my fiance they wanted us to come in and sit with the jeweler and watch him re-set the ring in front of us. My fiance told him he did not want to speak with im about this further, but wanted to hear directly from the regional manager. This was 10 minutes ago

These people have absolutely no customer awareness or focus whatsoever!! Imagine having the guy who I had to deal with last week call us, when we were told 3 times a regional manager would contact us.

How do they stay in business?
I don''t know, but I am ticked off for you! We had a Whitehall jewelers in 2 malls near where I live, both went out of business within a year and a half of opening. What a shame that you are having to deal with this mess...still waiting for that call???
 
Yes, I am still waiting......

Thank you all again for your support
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#1. Get it assessed and documented by an independent appraiser. Really. I know you hate the idea of throwing good money at this situation but it really will help because you then will know exactly what the problem is. Believe it or not, this might not be all that difficult to repair and you can solve it by simply hiring some other jeweler to fix it. Again, I know you don’t like the idea of spending money here but if it’s a $50 problem, it’s not worth stressing your life about when you can simply be done with it. The first thing is to figure out what your situation is. It’s almost certainly possible to fix it, it’s almost certainly possible to do a better job than the original and you should count it as good news that you didn’t lose your diamond in the process. This could have been much worse.

#2 If it’s severe, it’s probably a covered loss under your insurance. Many insurance policies don’t have a deductible and you can simply call your agent and tell them you would like to file a claim. They will walk you through the process. If it’s a manufacturers defect, the insurance company will have a department called ‘subrogation’ that will collect the money from the jeweler after they are finished taking care of your problem.

#3 Document your experience in a diary and be sure to keep a record of the names of the people you talk to, the dates and what you are being told as well as notes on what you have said. Keep copies of all communication both to and from you.

#4 Complain to the local better business bureau. They are part of a large chain and these folks really do try to be responsive to BBB claims, even if only to protect their own reputations.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver
 
I am so sorry to hear about your situation. Hope this can be resolved soon so you can enjoy your engagement. Denverappraiser summed it up very well. Good luck!
 
I can''t believe this is happening to you. I''m so sorry (and angry at them)! What a poorly run company. I hope that there is some sort of resolution soon.
 
That''s a terrible story...odds are, the store is probably using a setter who doesn''t have any idea what he''s doing. I imagine that they might be a little more inclined to make things right if you threaten to hurt their business. If I were you, I''d threaten to tell every single person you come in contact with about this terrible story, posting it online, and saying that you''ll post flyers around town warning about buying from them. Also tell them that you''ll contact the better business bureau.

As a side note, this is something that you can do to check if your stone is becoming loose in the future. place the ring on your middle finger, put it up to your ear, and tap the bottom of it with your thumb. if you hear little clicks, it likely means that the stone is moving around and needs to be tightened.
 
Thank you for your Advice Orangemen, I appreciate it. Actaully during our visit to the store last Monday, I did tell them i would blacklist their name to everyone know and told them i had a good mind to stand outside their store and let everyone know what happened to me. I was so updet at that point, that I''m sure passersby could hear me.

Update - as of last night we still had not heard from the Regional Manager, now 9 days since the visit to the store. The Customer Service lady I called last night was extermely nice and spoke again with a shift supervisor and recommended I call HQ and press 0 to speak with someone to make a complaint ab out a regional Manager. I asked her to please put in the comments on file that I will be filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau if we are not contacted with satisfactpory results today. My fiance is calling HQ as I type, hopefully I will have some news later.
 
I''m keeping my fingers crossed for you.
 
So, the Regional Manager called my fiance, but he was in a meeting and got a voicemail. The RM left no call back number but instructed us to call the store and they would contact him again......this is such a fiasco. Why can he not even leave a call back number??

My fiance called the HQ and was put through to Store operations where he had to leave a message.....there does not seem to be an ''live'' peoiple working for this company.
 
What a nightmare, are they for real???
 
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