Hearts of fire''s claim

[bschai]

Hi,

I know that hearts of fire is a branded type of cut featuring hearts and arrow patterns and you don''t need to buy hearts of fire diamonds to have he hearts and arrows pattern. Nevertheless, I am sure their diamonds are nice. It''s subjective if it justifies the cost and I am not trying to start of debate about if one should buy hearts on fire.

What i am interested to know about is their claims in workmanship and techniques used compared to "industry''s standard".

I know that a number of PS vendors repesents high level of quality and workmanship in their dimonds too. I''d think that PS vendors also have superior quality over "industry''s standard" too.

So i want to know if the following techniques/claims made by Hearts on fire are also employed by other PS vendors.


Do PS vendors also do the following just like Hearts of fire?

(I extracted these claims for their brochure as well as from various advertising, but it''s not word by word copy, so there could be slight inaccuracy )
1. Hand cut (industry standard: machine cut)

2. Polished and analyzed under 100x magnification (Industry standard: 40x )

3. Vibration-free cutting wheel machinery (kind of contradicts #1, if it''s hand cut, why you need machine at all, but what do I know...)



Thanks.

bschai

 

[strmrdr]

1: they all are
2: 10x is the grading standard, anyone saying different is an idiot.
3: they all are

The best of the hof line is comparable too the ACA, GOG classic and Paul''s Infinity line but when I looked into them there was more variation stone too stone in the HOF line.
Id rate the average HOF below the average of the above stones.

 

[echelon6]

Date: 8/3/2007 6:47:45 AM
Author: strmrdr
1: they all are
2: 10x is the grading standard, anyone saying different is an idiot.
3: they all are

The best of the hof line is comparable too the ACA, GOG classic and Paul''s Infinity line but when I looked into them there was more variation stone too stone in the HOF line.
Id rate the average HOF below the average of the above stones.

Interesting

Which vendor sells HOF? just wondering where you got the data from so you can make that claim?

 

[oldminer]

It is my understanding that several of the top cut diamonds are managed in the cutting process by hand versus using an automated machine for all facets. Gemologists regularly use high power examination for flaw detection and and polish grading. The finest stones require the use of higher powers. I go up to about 90 on the best stones when grading them and I am sure cutters and expert dealers also use very much higher than 10X. 10X is an agreed convention in standardized "grading", but it is not an optimum or limited magnification situation forced on anyone.

The vibration free diamond cutting wheel is something I just have no knowledge about. There are motors which are smoo therthan others. High end audio turntables which rely on 60 cycle per second power pulses spin more uniformly and may be smoother than voltage regulated turntables. Possibly this is a part of the drease in vibration referred to. Touch a diamond onto a spinning metal wheel and there will be detectible vibration of some sort.

Very finely cut diamonds require extra time in the cutting process. Certain brands lay claim to the most time consuming process, others lay claim to the most careful cutting process, while others claim both. Does it matter? For a relatively small percentage of consumers it matters a whole lot and for the vast majority of consumers, it doesn''t make a difference.

I advocate for free choice to the consumer and for honesty in seller''s advertising. After that, it is caveat emptor. We''re here to help you when we can.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Many diamonds of al qualities are blocked (the 8 main pavilion and crown facets applied) with auto machines. this is usually not going to make a scrap of difference.

Standard cutters loupes are the fold out type with a single lens around 8X 9stamped 10x, but few lenses stamped 10 are more than 8.

10 years ago the % of stones that got better than good for sym and pol - was no where near the number now - todays standards of equipment are far superior. Many cutters get H&A''s patterns about 1/2 the time with no special effort.

 

[risingsun]

I own both HOF and ACA diamond jewelry and spend entirely too much time examining the HOF at my jeweler's. In my experience, the diamonds are outstanding. I've seen them in all types of lighting and gotten specs and run them through the HCA. If I want an IS, I can bring my own set up. My only complaint is the price!! If I want a HOF, however, I have to be prepared to pay for it--as with any high end, branded product.

 

[bschai]

Thanks alot for the expert opinion.

Overall, I am gaining more and more confidence with the PS vendors!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 8/3/2007 7:34:51 AM
Author: echelon6

Date: 8/3/2007 6:47:45 AM
Author: strmrdr
1: they all are
2: 10x is the grading standard, anyone saying different is an idiot.
3: they all are

The best of the hof line is comparable too the ACA, GOG classic and Paul''s Infinity line but when I looked into them there was more variation stone too stone in the HOF line.
Id rate the average HOF below the average of the above stones.

Interesting

Which vendor sells HOF? just wondering where you got the data from so you can make that claim?

Local b&m
Iv compared Wifey2b''s gog classic too them as well as viewed a few with the ideal-scope.