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micmac

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Last week I got some feedback on a stone I was considering https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/please-tell-me-what-you-think-of-these-is-and-aset-images.114180/

I had a diamond sent to an appraiser to make sure everything checked out. He gave it the thumbs up.

Here are SARIN numbers on the stone:
Depth:60.2
Table:59%
CrownAngle:33%
Pavilion:41
Star/Upper Ratio:49:51

original gia cert numbers
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Measurements: 6.52 - 6.56 x 3.94 mm
Carat Weight: 1.03 carat
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: SI1 (eye clean)
Cut Grade: Excellent
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Depth: 60.3%
Table: 58%
Crown Angle: 33.0°
Crown Height: 14.0%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted (3.5%)
Culet: None
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Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
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Shipping the stone has taken a bit of time and is currently on it''s way (from the appraiser) back to the wholesaler and then out to me. This extra time has me doubting my choice.

With a 33 degree crown I am sacrificing fire performance for brilliance - and I''m not sure how I feel about this. I guess I''m not sure what the visual difference would be and so I''m assuming bad performance - which is maybe not the case.

My other worry with the stone is that it has a table of 59% - which it seems is or isn''t ideal/excellent (I don''t want to open that can of worms because I have read numerous threads on the 59% table). I have 0 visual experience on diamonds so I don''t have a preference on smaller vs larger tables.

Lastly I had a picture take of the hearts and arrows and well they were alright - certainly not perfect or near perfect and they fail the checklists I''ve seen.

So I''ve been looking at other stones :) and it seems that going with a WF ACA diamond will guarantee me the well rounded performance I want. The problem is that an ACA 1ct is out of my budget. I have found this stone though: http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1982389.htm which is 0.9

All the girls I''ve talked to at work have said "well .. you have done a lot of research and the stone you have picked is going to be amazing compared to the majority of diamonds out there. Your girl will appreciate a 1ct over a ''superideal'' diamond"

I know I can''t really ask the board members to make a decision for me and that isn''t what I''m after. Maybe some questions or food for thought on this mater. I do have the option of returning the original stone once I get it, but if it is a bad stone what is the point. There is still an opportunity to not ship the stone out tomorrow and thus leave it with the original wholesaler. Computer generated ASET and IS images of the stone in question are here (https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/please-tell-me-what-you-think-of-these-is-and-aset-images.114180/)

As always, any and all comments are welcome and appreciated.
 
Well, it most assuredly is NOT a bad stone. Far from it. In your other thread you mentioned:

"My biggest hope is that this will blow away 9 out 10 diamonds in terms of overall light performance"

You will definitely achieve that if the diamond comes anywhere close to the computer images. It sounds like you are having a case of buyer''s remorse, which is normal for this size of a purchase.

Which is more important to you and your gf, being over 1ct in size or the possible difference in performance? Keep in mind that the difference in performance will be VERY slight and VERY subtle and both of these stones are better than 98% of the diamonds out there. Just to muddy the waters, the difference in size is about .3mm, which is also very small--you''d only see it if they were side by side. Some girls just like to be able to say they have a 1ct ring, is your gf one of those?

If you decide that size is important, then my advice would be to go ahead and get the diamond and take it for a "test drive" (I''m gonna get that term in here before Lorelei can
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) Take it out in different lighting conditions and see how it performs. If you don''t like it, send it back and get the WF stone. However, only you can decide which is more important.
 
Date: 5/7/2009 12:28:13 AM
Author: jet2ks
Well, it most assuredly is NOT a bad stone. Far from it. In your other thread you mentioned:

'My biggest hope is that this will blow away 9 out 10 diamonds in terms of overall light performance'

You will definitely achieve that if the diamond comes anywhere close to the computer images. It sounds like you are having a case of buyer's remorse, which is normal for this size of a purchase.

Which is more important to you and your gf, being over 1ct in size or the possible difference in performance? Keep in mind that the difference in performance will be VERY slight and VERY subtle and both of these stones are better than 98% of the diamonds out there. Just to muddy the waters, the difference in size is about .3mm, which is also very small--you'd only see it if they were side by side. Some girls just like to be able to say they have a 1ct ring, is your gf one of those?

If you decide that size is important, then my advice would be to go ahead and get the diamond and take it for a 'test drive' (I'm gonna get that term in here before Lorelei can
11.gif
) Take it out in different lighting conditions and see how it performs. If you don't like it, send it back and get the WF stone. However, only you can decide which is more important.
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Ditto Jetskis advice above, also you could ask WF if they have any other diamonds with proportions closer to an ACA but are of Expert Selection range which might suit you ( these might be a bit cheaper). The diamond you have purchased is a good stone, not a bad one. I am really speculating by the numbers that the diamond could show more brilliance due to the slightly shallower crown angle and slightly larger table, but you could still see some fire and the diamond could still knock your socks off! Try the test drive as Jetskis suggested and see what you think, also if you have a Jareds closeby you could look at some of their AGS0 cut grade diamonds or some Hears on Fire if there is a dealer in the area, to see how this one compares.
 
Yap, give it a test drive.
 
I think you guys are right :) and I agree with your advice. I''ll stick with that stone for now, and if it doesn''t feel like "the one" I will promptly return it.

I''ll see if I can find some local hearts on fire to compare with.

Thanks guys!
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Mike
 
Date: 5/7/2009 6:25:40 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 5/7/2009 12:28:13 AM
Author: jet2ks
Well, it most assuredly is NOT a bad stone. Far from it. In your other thread you mentioned:

''My biggest hope is that this will blow away 9 out 10 diamonds in terms of overall light performance''

You will definitely achieve that if the diamond comes anywhere close to the computer images. It sounds like you are having a case of buyer''s remorse, which is normal for this size of a purchase.

Which is more important to you and your gf, being over 1ct in size or the possible difference in performance? Keep in mind that the difference in performance will be VERY slight and VERY subtle and both of these stones are better than 98% of the diamonds out there. Just to muddy the waters, the difference in size is about .3mm, which is also very small--you''d only see it if they were side by side. Some girls just like to be able to say they have a 1ct ring, is your gf one of those?

If you decide that size is important, then my advice would be to go ahead and get the diamond and take it for a ''test drive'' (I''m gonna get that term in here before Lorelei can
11.gif
) Take it out in different lighting conditions and see how it performs. If you don''t like it, send it back and get the WF stone. However, only you can decide which is more important.
1237384g1tewvbpaf.gif


Ditto Jetskis advice above, also you could ask WF if they have any other diamonds with proportions closer to an ACA but are of Expert Selection range which might suit you ( these might be a bit cheaper). The diamond you have purchased is a good stone, not a bad one. I am really speculating by the numbers that the diamond could show more brilliance due to the slightly shallower crown angle and slightly larger table, but you could still see some fire and the diamond could still knock your socks off! Try the test drive as Jetskis suggested and see what you think, also if you have a Jareds closeby you could look at some of their AGS0 cut grade diamonds or some Hears on Fire if there is a dealer in the area, to see how this one compares.
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Best of luck, Mike. Make sure to come back with pictures of the final product.
 
Good luck then. :)
 
Date: 5/7/2009 9:45:06 AM
Author: jet2ks

Date: 5/7/2009 6:25:40 AM
Author: Lorelei


Date: 5/7/2009 12:28:13 AM
Author: jet2ks
Well, it most assuredly is NOT a bad stone. Far from it. In your other thread you mentioned:

''My biggest hope is that this will blow away 9 out 10 diamonds in terms of overall light performance''

You will definitely achieve that if the diamond comes anywhere close to the computer images. It sounds like you are having a case of buyer''s remorse, which is normal for this size of a purchase.

Which is more important to you and your gf, being over 1ct in size or the possible difference in performance? Keep in mind that the difference in performance will be VERY slight and VERY subtle and both of these stones are better than 98% of the diamonds out there. Just to muddy the waters, the difference in size is about .3mm, which is also very small--you''d only see it if they were side by side. Some girls just like to be able to say they have a 1ct ring, is your gf one of those?

If you decide that size is important, then my advice would be to go ahead and get the diamond and take it for a ''test drive'' (I''m gonna get that term in here before Lorelei can
11.gif
) Take it out in different lighting conditions and see how it performs. If you don''t like it, send it back and get the WF stone. However, only you can decide which is more important.
1237384g1tewvbpaf.gif


Ditto Jetskis advice above, also you could ask WF if they have any other diamonds with proportions closer to an ACA but are of Expert Selection range which might suit you ( these might be a bit cheaper). The diamond you have purchased is a good stone, not a bad one. I am really speculating by the numbers that the diamond could show more brilliance due to the slightly shallower crown angle and slightly larger table, but you could still see some fire and the diamond could still knock your socks off! Try the test drive as Jetskis suggested and see what you think, also if you have a Jareds closeby you could look at some of their AGS0 cut grade diamonds or some Hears on Fire if there is a dealer in the area, to see how this one compares.
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Best of luck, Mike. Make sure to come back with pictures of the final product.
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