H&A v GOG OMC

[Star101]

I have been lurking for a while and have literally just joined up now because I''m searching for my perfect e-ring. I can''t decide between a H&A or an OMC by GOG. I''ve seen AJ''s ''down grade'' which is too beautiful for words.

I really need some help and opinions pls!! Im looking to get around 1ct and have it in a plain Leon solitaire orrrr might go for Mark Morrell if I end up with H&A. Choosing the diamond is hard for me. I guess what I''m asking is what would you guys prefer? What looks better in your opinion? If it helps at all my ring size is abt 3.75.

I look forward to reading your replies,

Thanks

 

[Amethyste]

Welcome to the forum Star1! I hope you enjoy your journey here - there are so many knowledgable people on this site and so friendly as well.

In my opinion, its comparing an apple to an orange... They do not have the same cut pattern and they do not perform the same...
Different light situations call for different performance for each one of them.... It really depends if you like for aesthetics...

 

[Upgradable]

Totally agree with Ames! This is all about personal preference. I'd say you should try to take a look at them in person before trying to get specific in picking a stone. Once you're looking at both types on your hand, that should solve your problem.

If you're just asking what each of us personally would choose, I'm a vintage stone gal. But that's just me....

BTW~ a great ole Welcome to Pricesope!!

 

[bright&shiny]

I''d have to say the GOG OMC....but it''s not an easy choice. I''d ask Jon to pick a great performer in each category and shoot a video for you. They are such different cuts & the light performance is so different...it will all come down to your personal opinion, I''m afraid. Good luck!

 

[D&T]

personal perference, but I''d like one of each

sorry I am no help as I have an H&A and love it, but I also love for the signature OMC too

 

[Lexie]

I'm not sure whether you've already seen this video or not, but it's comparing a GOG Signature Cushion and a GOG Signature H&A. Hopefully it'll make your decision a little easier

If it were up to me, I'd take the cushion in a heartbeat; however, they're both beautiful in their own right

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/14/2009 2:57:17 PM
Author: Amethyste
Welcome to the forum Star1! I hope you enjoy your journey here - there are so many knowledgable people on this site and so friendly as well.

In my opinion, its comparing an apple to an orange... They do not have the same cut pattern and they do not perform the same...
Different light situations call for different performance for each one of them.... It really depends if you like for aesthetics...

Ditto, they are both beautiful and it is purely personal preference which to choose.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/14/2009 3:33:14 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 8/14/2009 2:57:17 PM
Author: Amethyste
Welcome to the forum Star1! I hope you enjoy your journey here - there are so many knowledgable people on this site and so friendly as well.

In my opinion, its comparing an apple to an orange... They do not have the same cut pattern and they do not perform the same...
Different light situations call for different performance for each one of them.... It really depends if you like for aesthetics...

Ditto, they are both beautiful and it is purely personal preference which to choose.

Thritto.

If you like "different"/aren''t set on a round, go for the OMC. I have one of GOG''s round H&A, and I actually entertained the thought of upgrading to one of these. Ultimately I decided I couldn''t part with my round, but if he had had these when I was looking, I absolutely would have gotten one. And if I ever inherit any money, or win the lottery, rest assured, I will have one of these in a RHR.

 

[tyty333]

Date: 8/14/2009 3:21:55 PM
Author: bright&shiny
I''d have to say the GOG OMC....but it''s not an easy choice. I''d ask Jon to pick a great performer in each category and shoot a video for you. They are such different cuts & the light performance is so different...it will all come down to your personal opinion, I''m afraid. Good luck!

Excellent idea...they are apples and oranges.

 

[ecf8503]

Jon has a great return policy - can you manage a way to have one of each sent to you (or an appraiser near you) so you can see them both at the same time? As good as the videos are, there is no substitute for seeing them IRL.

 

[Star101]

Thank you for the welcome and prompt replies. Yes, you're all right when you say they are 2 very different things like apples and oranges. My problem is I can't decide which I prefer.
Lexie thanks for the video link. I enjoyed watching it. Wish I could have one of each lol. I'm unable to visit GOG in person or have them sent out because I'm in Europe. I have to fully rely on Pricescope.

 

[WhisperShimmer]

Just received my OMC yesterday. It is gorgeous. I love it even more than I thought it would. My fiance keeps laughing at me because I am seemingly mesmerized by it. The "Wow" factor from people who see it is exciting too - people have never seen this cut, and they are intrigued by it.

Sorry the stone is a bit dirty in this pic.

 

[litebrite]

With your finger size, you can get either and it will look quite large. There is no right answer here, just which one you think you would prefer. If you have a setting in mind, that might help in deciding which one.

 

[arjunajane]

Hi Star,
welcome to PS, and I know it''s not much help to you but I do have to echo the others''
sentiment about the two being soo different.

As you may be aware from reading my thread (thankyou for the compliment btw!), I ended up loving the OMC even more than my H&A, and more than expected.
Is there anyway you can see H&A rounds where you live? I know there won''t be somewhere to see a signature OMC, but perhaps you can try on other cushions and square/rectangle diamonds to see which shape you prefer on your hand, and go from there?

Can you possibly tell us a bit more about your tastes in clothing, homes, jewellery etc? (ie. modern, romantic, vintage, boho) - this could help in suggesting which style cut may suit your tastes better..

I can''t remember which page, but in my thread I did a bit of a dissection on my views on both cuts if it helps.

 

[just_looking!]

For those that have the OMC's as rings, how do you find they perform when slightly dirty i.e. a day or so out of the ultrasonic cleaner?

I have a H&A for my engagement ring and although I'm compulsive about cleaning it in the ultrasonic cleaner when I'm at home, I found it still performs well even when I don't have access to my ultrasonic cleaner. Same holds true for my H&A studs.....

My asscher earrings on the other hand are another story!! I try to clean these more often as I find a bit of dirt really spoils the performance even though they are very nicely cut (daniel k).

So would you say the OMC's perform slightly better than a step cut when not pristinely clean?

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/15/2009 9:11:05 AM
Author: just_looking!
For those that have the OMC''s as rings, how do you find they perform when slightly dirty i.e. a day or so out of the ultrasonic cleaner?

I have a H&A for my engagement ring and although I''m compulsive about cleaning it in the ultrasonic cleaner when I''m at home, I found it still performs well even when I don''t have access to my ultrasonic cleaner. Same holds true for my H&A studs.....

My asscher earrings on the other hand are another story!! I try to clean these more often as I find a bit of dirt really spoils the performance even though they are very nicely cut (daniel k).

So would you say the OMC''s perform slightly better than a step cut when not pristinely clean?

Good question.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 8/15/2009 9:14:57 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 8/15/2009 9:11:05 AM

Author: just_looking!

For those that have the OMC''s as rings, how do you find they perform when slightly dirty i.e. a day or so out of the ultrasonic cleaner?


I have a H&A for my engagement ring and although I''m compulsive about cleaning it in the ultrasonic cleaner when I''m at home, I found it still performs well even when I don''t have access to my ultrasonic cleaner. Same holds true for my H&A studs.....


My asscher earrings on the other hand are another story!! I try to clean these more often as I find a bit of dirt really spoils the performance even though they are very nicely cut (daniel k).


So would you say the OMC''s perform slightly better than a step cut when not pristinely clean?

Good question.

I agree Just Looking, good question..
short answer, I need to clean mine more often than I did my RB. It does tend to show up
dirt/oil a bit quicker/easier than my H&A did.
But I still only clean every second day at the most.

I don''t know the technical reason why, but it would seem the larger, chunkier facets "show" the dirt easier than the skinnier ones of the RB. I''m sorry but I don''t have a step cut to compare it to - if I had to guess I would say the OMC would be between the two

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/15/2009 9:22:53 AM
Author: arjunajane


I agree Just Looking, good question..
short answer, I need to clean mine more often than I did my RB. It does tend to show up
dirt/oil a bit quicker/easier than my H&A did.
But I still only clean every second day at the most.

I don''t know the technical reason why, but it would seem the larger, chunkier facets ''show'' the dirt easier than the skinnier ones of the RB. I''m sorry but I don''t have a step cut to compare it to - if I had to guess I would say the OMC would be between the two

That would be my guess as well. While I don''t have an OMC *SNIFF*, I do have a round and an EC, and they''re like night and day staying/keeping clean.

 

[Star101]

Date: 8/15/2009 5:45:23 AM
Author: arjunajane
Hi Star,
welcome to PS, and I know it''s not much help to you but I do have to echo the others''
sentiment about the two being soo different.

As you may be aware from reading my thread (thankyou for the compliment btw!), I ended up loving the OMC even more than my H&A, and more than expected.
Is there anyway you can see H&A rounds where you live? I know there won''t be somewhere to see a signature OMC, but perhaps you can try on other cushions and square/rectangle diamonds to see which shape you prefer on your hand, and go from there?

Can you possibly tell us a bit more about your tastes in clothing, homes, jewellery etc? (ie. modern, romantic, vintage, boho) - this could help in suggesting which style cut may suit your tastes better..

I can''t remember which page, but in my thread I did a bit of a dissection on my views on both cuts if it helps.

Thanks for the welcome. Well my tastes in jewellery is quite simple to be honest. I''m all about the rock. I don''t like pave/halo or anything too fancy on me. I read through your whole thread and it was very helpful, thanks! I''m torn because I love the chunky facets of the OMC and beautiful colours it displays but I also love round diamonds. One thing I should say is that I''m not found of rectangular shaped stones. Is there such a thing as a round OMC?

 

[Star101]

Date: 8/14/2009 10:18:05 PM
Author: WhisperShimmer
Just received my OMC yesterday. It is gorgeous. I love it even more than I thought it would. My fiance keeps laughing at me because I am seemingly mesmerized by it. The ''Wow'' factor from people who see it is exciting too - people have never seen this cut, and they are intrigued by it.

Sorry the stone is a bit dirty in this pic.

I love those chunky facets, YUM!

 

[Star101]

Date: 8/14/2009 11:34:02 PM
Author: litebrite
With your finger size, you can get either and it will look quite large. There is no right answer here, just which one you think you would prefer. If you have a setting in mind, that might help in deciding which one.

Regarding the setting, if I went with H&A it will either be Mark Morrell or Leon Mege solitaire and if I go with OMC then definately Leon Mege double claw prongs. Would double claw prongs be too much for a diamond that is slightly under a carat for both OMC & H&A?

 

[Star101]

Oh and I wanted to say Rhino if you happen to read this thread I would love to know your thoughts and opinions.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Date: 8/15/2009 10:12:08 AM
Author: Star101

Thanks for the welcome. Well my tastes in jewellery is quite simple to be honest. I''m all about the rock. I don''t like pave/halo or anything too fancy on me. I read through your whole thread and it was very helpful, thanks! I''m torn because I love the chunky facets of the OMC and beautiful colours it displays but I also love round diamonds. One thing I should say is that I''m not found of rectangular shaped stones. Is there such a thing as a round OMC?

It sounds like an OEC is just might what you are looking for! Check out GOG''s latest prototype - http://www.vimeo.com/6108687

I also love round stones but do like the pillowy shape of the OMC and cushions.

 

[Rhino]

Hi Star,

Caught your post.

Charmypoo took the words right out of my mouth. If you like big flash but want round we''ve taken the OEC and have cut a number of prototypes experimenting how to get maximum blingage out of these.

In the clip that charmy posted the only slight change we''re making to the last diamond (an actual OEC with the performance we''re after) is the size of the pedals (reflections) under the table will be a little larger and more symmetrically cut.

 

[Star101]

OMG I''m in love

I didn''t realise such a diamond type even existed!! It was such a joy to watch that video. Are these GOG OEC still in development? When will they become available to the public?

 

[Rhino]

Unfortunately Antwerp is on vacation this month but some of the cutters are returning next week. Once they are back our first production will be commenced after one final confirmation. If this is of interest drop us an email letting us know your needs and you''ll be among the first to get one. I already have the rough ready to be cut but was just waiting till I finally nailed the optics.

 

[Star101]

Thanks for letting me know

Btw am I right in thinking that OMC will face up slightly smaller than a RB of equivalent size?

 

[arjunajane]

Of course, why didn''t I think of that! lol *slaps forehead*
I think one of GOG''s OEC''s will be perfect for you star.

On your last question, there has been some discussion on this and the answer is yes - but only slightly.
Basically the square corners of the OMC give the eye an illusion of larger size, which makes up for it abit though.
(Jon, pls correct if I''m off-track!).

And no, on your small finger I don''t think Leon''s double claws will be too much for a 1ct of any of these diamonds we''ve discussed - he is able to make them *very* delicate.
Can''t wait to see this ring complete!

 

[CharmyPoo]

I had the privilege of visiting with Jon today (he is absolutely wonderful and so knowledgeable). Best of all - I got to compare the OMC, square H&A, OEC, and round H&A.I have been dying to see them for a long time and it was worth the trip.Each one is very unique and has their own beauty. (Jon – sorry for all the drool I left on your counter).

I honestly don't think you can go wrong with a stone from Jon. He is a perfectionist and would only recommend the best performing stones. He is also very patient - I know I put him through hell and he still welcomed me with open arms!

 

[Star101]

Thanks arjunajane and CharmyPoo! Btw Charmy, just curious to know which was your favourite rock out of the ones you compared?