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To what extent did the topic of gun control influence your decision re: for whom you voted?
CJ2008|1478902943|4097221 said:I know several people who said that if HRC was elected, she'd take guns away.
And that was a HUGE factor in their decision to vote for Trump.
JoCoJenn|1478903589|4097228 said:"BIGLY!"
Sorry, couldn't help myself there. I actually hated hearing u-know-who say that all the time.
Off hand, I think my primary voting factors looked something like this:
- 40% Supreme Court
- 30% Constitutional Protections (incl 2nd Amendment)
- 30% Policy (Foreign, Domestic, Economic, etc.)
Given how I noted it, I'm obviously more of the mindset to preserve citizens gun rights as opposed to imposing more restrictions.
Loves Vintage|1478957095|4097397 said:I voted HRC. The topic of guns informed my decision not at all.
I was surprised that there was so little discussion about the gun issue, post election. I think that many people voted pro-gun, and therefore, for Trump, a morally bereft madman. I think that for many Americans, guns, even though their ability to possess them (and even shoot themselves in the head with one, as happens more often than many are willing to acknowledge) was never really at risk, were a very significant, if not most significant factor in their votes for Trump. I have no idea why there hasn't been more discussion about this, or even if there has been. There just hasn't been here.
In any event, it certainly provides me with an explanation here. I think most people voted Trump, not because they are racist misogynists, but because they love guns more than reason, more than their religion, more than their daughters and mothers, and more than themselves.
Cheers!
redwood66|1478960498|4097409 said:With all due respect, the people who believe in gun rights don't discuss it here because most of PS think like you do. Why would we bring it up? It has been debated before and always turns out badly. The discussion of the actual candidates was bad enough.
You started a thread and have created your own little PS "registry" so you could say this:
In any event, it certainly provides me with an explanation here. I think most people voted Trump, not because they are racist misogynists, but because they love guns more than reason, more than their religion, more than their daughters and mothers, and more than themselves.
Which I will now refer you to this thread to read if you have not already. Especially the part about arrogance.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/re-election-saw-this-on-fb-sums-it-up-well.226768/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/re-election-saw-this-on-fb-sums-it-up-well.226768/[/URL]
kylier|1478910758|4097268 said:I voted to say 'no' to a racist, misogynist fear monger who would hurt people less privileged than me. That was most important to me. Having decided that I did look carefully into HRC's policies and saw nothing that would stop my full enjoyment of my guns. I don't buy guns online or at gun shows and I'm okay with closing those loopholes. But even if my gun enjoyment should be slightly hampered (if they took my AR-15) I would consider it a small price to say 'no' to everything that man represented. I'm lucky to enjoy a lot of privilege and will not be hurt the way many others will, but I feel a deep sense of shame at what has happened around me and being able to buy a dozen more guns (and making A LOT more money under Trump's tax plan) can't change that.
Loves Vintage|1478965630|4097435 said:redwood66|1478960498|4097409 said:With all due respect, the people who believe in gun rights don't discuss it here because most of PS think like you do. Why would we bring it up? It has been debated before and always turns out badly. The discussion of the actual candidates was bad enough.
You started a thread and have created your own little PS "registry" so you could say this:
In any event, it certainly provides me with an explanation here. I think most people voted Trump, not because they are racist misogynists, but because they love guns more than reason, more than their religion, more than their daughters and mothers, and more than themselves.
Which I will now refer you to this thread to read if you have not already. Especially the part about arrogance.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/re-election-saw-this-on-fb-sums-it-up-well.226768/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/re-election-saw-this-on-fb-sums-it-up-well.226768/[/URL]
Registry? Lol. Nice! Just a topic on a diamond forum. Still searching for answers re: this mess. Will be sure to read up on the other link so I can discover what is apparently wrong with me.
redwood66|1478968962|4097464 said:Loves Vintage|1478965630|4097435 said:redwood66|1478960498|4097409 said:With all due respect, the people who believe in gun rights don't discuss it here because most of PS think like you do. Why would we bring it up? It has been debated before and always turns out badly. The discussion of the actual candidates was bad enough.
You started a thread and have created your own little PS "registry" so you could say this:
In any event, it certainly provides me with an explanation here. I think most people voted Trump, not because they are racist misogynists, but because they love guns more than reason, more than their religion, more than their daughters and mothers, and more than themselves.
Which I will now refer you to this thread to read if you have not already. Especially the part about arrogance.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/re-election-saw-this-on-fb-sums-it-up-well.226768/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/re-election-saw-this-on-fb-sums-it-up-well.226768/[/URL]
Registry? Lol. Nice! Just a topic on a diamond forum. Still searching for answers re: this mess. Will be sure to read up on the other link so I can discover what is apparently wrong with me.
It was tongue in cheek if you could not tell. And I have been told here what is wrong with me for months.
LLJsmom|1478966520|4097441 said:I very much admire your decision making process and your conscientious method of weighing the pros and cons. I don't own guns so it did not come into play. I did the same thing with taxes. I project that tax rates in general will go down and i do hope that the cost of health care will decrease. My health care costs increased by 3x. My deductibles increased by 5x. I work for a small business. With trump as president I project that those costs will decrease for me. However, to me, the benefit is not worth the price of everything else Trump represents.
Asscherhalo_lover|1478998046|4097633 said:I understand personal gun ownership for hunting purposes, my family has a long history of hunting (and eating what they kill) so I respect that this is a way of life for many. Beyond that, I just don't get it. NY, especially NYC, has very strict gun control laws. Many of our neighboring states do not which negates the laws in NYC. People just buy them elsewhere and drive them on over.
siamese3|1479078369|4097929 said:My whole family has had guns, but they were all hunters. I don't have a problem with that, although I really don't understand people's love for guns. I can't understand choosing guns over people. This is an interesting thread to me because it sheds light on the why's of the election.