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MissNat

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Hello everyone!

I am in the end of choosing a diamond for my e-ring but I am feeling so confused I don't even know what to do anymore.
At first I was so shure it was going to be a BGD Quadex since BDG is making the custom setting. Unfortunately they couldn't find anything in my price range of $3300.

I turned to GOG ang Charles told me the .70 in the video below is my best bet. I was a little worried about the ASET and all the greyish areas but told him to call it in for me. I made a topic here but was told it's an AGS 0 so light leakage should not be a problem. I don't know if it is just me but I don't think it sparkles that much in the video. I also got an advice to look at the .87 Jubilee so i choosed that one too. I'm sorry to say that i could see the inclusion right away when looking at the video. The last one is an AVC that looks very good but is a little over my budget and I am not in love with it.

GOG video- https://vimeo.com/46889276

POH - http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104059336004-PLDQRH.PDF
Jubilee - http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9436/
AVC - http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9344/


Unfortunately I am not in love with any of the stones in the video so now I'm turning to you guys. Please give me your opinion or maybe another option. I'm open for other shapes as long as it sparkles like nothing els.

I am exhausted and feeling ready to give up. Please help!
 
I think they all look good but will say that this particular video is not as good as other GOG videos, especially where they put it in the light that makes the diamond go dark and is supposed to bring out the fire, they don't move the diamond quickly enough.

From what I can see, the .7 POH is really pretty. To compare to my video, here's my diamond:
http://youtu.be/O74CmwVZfiA

The camera is farther away, so you don't get the head obstruction you get with the closer video you have - so you see more bright white light on my video. If the POH has AGS000 - it's going to be STUNNING. I've had my ring since early may and I still can't take my eyes off it, the stone is gorgeous. Trust me, that POH is gorgeous.

As well, the Jubilee is up close - in person you may not see the inclusion that much since the stone is smaller than on screen. imagine the head of a pen cap - it'll be about that size.

It's a bad video, not a bad stone. :)
 
BTW - did GOG say the .87 is eye clean? I can see the inclusion in my ring in the video but can't in normal light, FYI.
 
Ask GOG to reshoot the video - Their lighting setup seems all wrong this time around. I'm sure those stones look better than that in real life!

Is the princess of hearts this one? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9652/
Given your three choices I like the look of the POH the best, but it all depends on what looks good to your eye. The aset for this stone is typical of excellent light performance. The dark Greyish arrows in the diamxray should be black but just haven't photographed properly - not light leakage (light leakage would look white or just off white - here is an example of potential leakage issues http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9332/

The cloud in the Jubilee would drive me nuts! - it's like a little white kite. If you want a really square stone then the AVC just won't do (even though I love them).
 
I think the 0.7 POH looks great.
 
I'll agree...those are fantastic diamonds!!! :love: You can easily tell the video isn't so great. I could choose any of those just from the listing on the site without video. The bottom line is that you aren't going to find better cut diamonds than these. The hard part is choosing which one!
 
I agree this isn't the best video from GOG. The camera is too close and you are getting a lot of obstruction. Plus the images on the screen are greatly magnified - the stones are much smaller in person.

This is just my take.... I have an AVC and a RB. I have seen a Jubilee in person. The Jubilee looks almost round in person, so unless you make a setting that will enhance it's squareness I think you may as well go with an actual RB. I like the POH much more - I like the 12 o'clock orientation of the arrows (as opposed to the 10-2 in the Jubilee). If I could have a POH as my next stone I would!

That said, I love my AVC and my RB, but they are different creatures. The AVC definitely has an on / off flash pattern - when the large facets light up it is blindingly white but when they are "off" it can look dark. Not in a bad way, just that the contrast pattern is different. The facets of the RB (and POH) are much smaller, so it will have a more twinkly fast-flash pattern; and it looks more "on" all the time if that makes sense. I love the patterns of both my RB and AVC but in different ways.

You said BGD is making the setting - can you give us an idea of what it will look like?

I'd pick the POH - they are awesome stones!
 
First of all I just want to say thank you for your answers. I don't know what to do without all of you here at PS.

webdiva|1344027618|3245534 said:
I think they all look good but will say that this particular video is not as good as other GOG videos, especially where they put it in the light that makes the diamond go dark and is supposed to bring out the fire, they don't move the diamond quickly enough.

From what I can see, the .7 POH is really pretty. To compare to my video, here's my diamond:
http://youtu.be/O74CmwVZfiA

The camera is farther away, so you don't get the head obstruction you get with the closer video you have - so you see more bright white light on my video. If the POH has AGS000 - it's going to be STUNNING. I've had my ring since early may and I still can't take my eyes off it, the stone is gorgeous. Trust me, that POH is gorgeous.

As well, the Jubilee is up close - in person you may not see the inclusion that much since the stone is smaller than on screen. imagine the head of a pen cap - it'll be about that size.

It's a bad video, not a bad stone. :)
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I was so disapointed when I saw the video so it feels really good knowing it's the vid and not the stones.

I am definitely leaning towards the POH since I really loved the shape from the very beginning. I was worried about the darkness but it's probably as you said, the videos fault. Regarding the .87 they never said it was eye-clean but the told me the hade a hard time finding the inclusin even if they knew where it was. I was hoping for since it was a D and a little bit bigger but I think I will irritate my self to death. Even if it will be reaaaally small in real life.

Your ring is truly stunning and i've been looking at it many times. :appl:
 
HopeDream|1344033007|3245579 said:
Ask GOG to reshoot the video - Their lighting setup seems all wrong this time around. I'm sure those stones look better than that in real life!

Is the princess of hearts this one? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9652/
Given your three choices I like the look of the POH the best, but it all depends on what looks good to your eye. The aset for this stone is typical of excellent light performance. The dark Greyish arrows in the diamxray should be black but just haven't photographed properly - not light leakage (light leakage would look white or just off white - here is an example of potential leakage issues http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9332/

The cloud in the Jubilee would drive me nuts! - it's like a little white kite. If you want a really square stone then the AVC just won't do (even though I love them).
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Could I acually do that? Ask them to reshoot? I'm probably a real coward but I don't know if I dare to ask.
From the very beginning I've felt like I was just in the way more than a paying customer to them. I've heard/read so much good about them so I guess I just hade really high expectations.

I'm really glad to hear the the ASET shows excellent light performance. I'm glad to hear I was wrong :naughty:
Yes that is the POH. I only hade the certificate before and that ASET pic worried me.

Yeah the jubilee is not an option any more. And the AVC is beautiful but not square enough just as you said :)
 
UberClaire|1344033393|3245584 said:
I think the 0.7 POH looks great.
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Thank you, I am definitely leaning towards it now :)
 
diamondseeker2006|1344047282|3245706 said:
I'll agree...those are fantastic diamonds!!! :love: You can easily tell the video isn't so great. I could choose any of those just from the listing on the site without video. The bottom line is that you aren't going to find better cut diamonds than these. The hard part is choosing which one!
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Thank you! Well I guess we can all agreen on the the video isn't very well done :(
 
ecf8503|1344048643|3245715 said:
I agree this isn't the best video from GOG. The camera is too close and you are getting a lot of obstruction. Plus the images on the screen are greatly magnified - the stones are much smaller in person.

This is just my take.... I have an AVC and a RB. I have seen a Jubilee in person. The Jubilee looks almost round in person, so unless you make a setting that will enhance it's squareness I think you may as well go with an actual RB. I like the POH much more - I like the 12 o'clock orientation of the arrows (as opposed to the 10-2 in the Jubilee). If I could have a POH as my next stone I would!

That said, I love my AVC and my RB, but they are different creatures. The AVC definitely has an on / off flash pattern - when the large facets light up it is blindingly white but when they are "off" it can look dark. Not in a bad way, just that the contrast pattern is different. The facets of the RB (and POH) are much smaller, so it will have a more twinkly fast-flash pattern; and it looks more "on" all the time if that makes sense. I love the patterns of both my RB and AVC but in different ways.

You said BGD is making the setting - can you give us an idea of what it will look like?

I'd pick the POH - they are awesome stones!
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I don't know why GOG made a video that clearly isn't very good. well well..

Thank you so much for your opinion. I totally agree about the arrows in the POH. I absolutly understand what you mean about the on/off thing. I think I prefer the smaller facets now in a smaller diamond and who knows maybe there'll be an AVC upgrade later :naughty:
 
Jon and the GOG team are quite helpful - I'm sure they'd be happy to reshoot the video when you tell the about the lighting issue. Don't be shy, they won't mind!
 
My guess is that Jonathan is a pro at making the videos, and someone else probably shot that for you. Really, when you are comparing three well cut stones, they are all going to look good on the video. So I am not sure whether the video ultimately will help you decide since really, you just need to decide which type of diamond you want most.
 
I'd pick the POH, same as what Jonathan was recommending. I liked the chunky flashes and the radiant did not appeal to me at all.

HAve you spoken/emailed about a renewed video?
 
Both are amazing, but the GOG seems to appeal to me more. The JA is beautiful - for sure - but do you need the F VS1? Are there other POH options that bring if more inline financially with the GOG one?

I'm a GOG vote because you've seen it perform in the video, the AGS0, Ideal vs VG cut... and no idea of the JA cost, but that's a great price for the GOG one!

Good luck!
 
Enerchi|1344539283|3248659 said:
Both are amazing, but the GOG seems to appeal to me more. The JA is beautiful - for sure - but do you need the F VS1? Are there other POH options that bring if more inline financially with the GOG one?

I'm a GOG vote because you've seen it perform in the video, the AGS0, Ideal vs VG cut... and no idea of the JA cost, but that's a great price for the GOG one!

Good luck!
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Thank you for your opinion. Well I don't need it but I get it for the same price as H VS2. Unfortunately it seems to be the only option from GOG when it comes to a POH. They didn't seem to have anything els in my price range. I asked :/

But you would say the ASET looks good?

I'm really torn between these two. Both beautiful!
 
I would definitely say the ASET looks good in both diamonds! (sorry - that's no help!)

AGS - there have been a few people chatting about the colour situation - could it be lower than what they designate?? That seems to be the running discussion. However, it is the 'go to' lab for brilliance, fire and scintillation, and yours scored 000 on that!

GIA - could be the better colour grade??? F is pretty sweet and you don't run the risk of colour being noticeable in the corners - but then maybe the corners would be covered by prongs and any miniscule possibility of colour could be covered up...??

VS1 vs VS2 (<<<hahaha - that just looks funny!!) is also negligible - I'd be sure to ask, but I'd feel confident that they would both be eye clean (again, not a pro 1 vs the other.. )

What is the upgrade policy? perhaps that could be the swing vote??
 
Enerchi|1344541342|3248693 said:
I would definitely say the ASET looks good in both diamonds! (sorry - that's no help!)

AGS - there have been a few people chatting about the colour situation - could it be lower than what they designate?? That seems to be the running discussion. However, it is the 'go to' lab for brilliance, fire and scintillation, and yours scored 000 on that!

GIA - could be the better colour grade??? F is pretty sweet and you don't run the risk of colour being noticeable in the corners - but then maybe the corners would be covered by prongs and any miniscule possibility of colour could be covered up...??

VS1 vs VS2 (<<<hahaha - that just looks funny!!) is also negligible - I'd be sure to ask, but I'd feel confident that they would both be eye clean (again, not a pro 1 vs the other.. )

What is the upgrade policy? perhaps that could be the swing vote??
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Haha no help but still good to hear :)

The setting will look like this, almost.. Quite many changes but it'll be sidestones anyway.
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/4-prong-sleek-micro-pave-platinum-5472p

If choosing the F I will probably not see any differece between the diamond and the melee. I am afraid I might see it if I choose to go with the H. I also heard about that AGS might not be att "hard" on the color.

Both of the diamonds are suppose to be eye-clean and I'm not that sensitive so VS2 shouldn't be a problem.

We hopefully this dimond won't be upgraded :P I know it sounds weird but I'm designing the ring myself and I want this to be passed on to future family members. If i ever have the ability to upgrade it will be a whole new ring.
 
I like the .86 I SI2 jubilee the best out of the lineup. The shape is great. To me, the faceting structure looks similar but I like the squareness of the middle jubilee.
 
MissNat|1344538716|3248650 said:
Got the new video - http://vimeo.com/47188400

The POH feels like the only option even though it doesn't feel totally right either.. :confused:

POH - http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9652/

I decided to have a look at the James Allen stone and it was not that bad. Pleas have a look and tell me what you thing :)

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS1-Very-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1510064.asp

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Which would you choose? I have to make a decision within a couple of hours :o
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I like the .86 I Jubilee - not sure why you don't think it's an option. I feel the color stands up pretty nicely to the D right beside it and the H color. I vote for the .86 I.
 
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