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ssharma1121

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So my e-ring from union diamonds arrived today. I just pulled out the certificate so I could post info here. We have 30 days to send it back.

EGL 1.77 ct round brilliant H SI1
measurements- 7.80- 7.78 x 4.88 mm
proportions
total depth: 62.4%
table width: 57%
crown height: 13%
pavilion depth: 42%
girdle thickness: medium, faceted
finish
polish: excellent
symmetry: excellent
cutlet: none

no graining, no fluorescence

Jeff at union diamond said it was eyeclean at 10 inches. I can''t look at the ring until fiance proposes tonight. it''s hard to not open the box!

What do you think of the stone? I know EGL is weak (but a good value!), so we are getting it appraised sometime this week.

We bought the stone without seeing the certificate because Jeff said it was a good stone and my fiance got tired of looking at stones.
 
I checked HCA and it said this stone''s girdle was too thick or my info was incorrect. It''s supposed to be an ideal cut stone with 8 hearts and arrows. I checked the information I inputted against the HCA so I put all of the numbers in correctly...

Sorry for the bad grammar in the topic link!
 
Do you know the crown and pavilian angles?

As is, I assume the 13% is the crown angle in %, and that you means 42 degrees for the pavilian angle?

If so, it scored a 3.6 on the HCA.
 
Date: 9/2/2008 5:45:27 PM
Author: LaurenThePartier
Do you know the crown and pavilian angles?


As is, I assume the 13% is the crown angle in %, and that you means 42 degrees for the pavilian angle?


If so, it scored a 3.6 on the HCA.

If Lauren is right, you can do a lot better...
 
Date: 9/2/2008 2:30:29 PM
Author:ssharma1121
So my e-ring from union diamonds arrived today. I just pulled out the certificate so I could post info here. We have 30 days to send it back.

EGL 1.77 ct round brilliant H SI1
measurements- 7.80- 7.78 x 4.88 mm
proportions
total depth: 62.4%
table width: 57%
crown height: 13%
pavilion depth: 42%
girdle thickness: medium, faceted
finish
polish: excellent
symmetry: excellent
cutlet: none

no graining, no fluorescence

Jeff at union diamond said it was eyeclean at 10 inches. I can''t look at the ring until fiance proposes tonight. it''s hard to not open the box!

What do you think of the stone? I know EGL is weak (but a good value!), so we are getting it appraised sometime this week.

We bought the stone without seeing the certificate because Jeff said it was a good stone and my fiance got tired of looking at stones.
The HCA won''t even calculate because the girdle is so thick.

EGL is rarely a ''good value'' - prices often appear lower than comparable GIA or AGS stones because vendors price the stones more along correct grading. Which EGL lab did the report? (Look at the report # and post the first few numbers)

Also check the eyecleanliness in all lighting situations - indoor, outdoor, direct sunlight, etc.

You can do so much better!
 
I have to agree, can you return it and start again? You can get a much nicer stone.
 
Thanks for the input! I finally got to look at the ring. It looks pretty spectacular on my size 4 finger, so I am going to get it appraised before I make a decision to keep it or return it. It''s an EGL international certificate, T-28077512. The weird thing was that I could not find the certificate online! I checked EGL international''s website for online verification (so I could download a copy) and they couldn''t find it! Can you fake a certificate? The stone was graded on July 21st, so it might be too new to be in the database. All of the measurements are in % so it is not 42 degrees. Could the rounding in percent account for HCA stating that the girdle is too thick?

The stone is ridiculously eyeclean. I can only see the inclusions when I look through pavilion and they are all white feathers. I cannot see any inclusions through the table. It''s graded as an H, I think it is an I in the I-J range (not an I in the H-I range). It''s still face-up white. And since it has a few feathers, I think it is more an SI2. I can''t testify cut, but it sparkles like crazy in sunlight and indoor lighting. The certificate states the stone is ideal cut, but I don''t know how to figure out if it really is. I wish I had a H&A viewer to see the hearts and arrows really exist and if they are properly made.

I thought the stone was a good value because the equivalent GIA I SI2 1.77 ct RB was around $10K and we paid $8K for this stone. I''m just glad the inclusions are white!
 
8k sounds like a great price. If you love it I wouldn''t worry so much about the numbers. If you keep it be sure to post pictures. Enjoy
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At the top of the page you can Pricescope your Diamond by inputting the stats and get prices of comparable stones. I found EGL stones between $5980 and $8376.

I''d pick another stone myself.
 
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