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flamingoezz

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Not completely happy with how clunky and not-delicate the basket looks from the side angle..

Also considering asking for the area that connects the basket to the ring to be the same height as the ring itself (on thru finger view) to close that gap a bit (since lowering the diamond will likely increase the basket angle). any thoughts on how that would look?

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CAD's will always show more metal then the end result. My guess is this will look different when done.

As far as the rings are they supposed to be at different heights? I can't tell if the CAD looks funny or if requested that. I would have the bands be the same size.

I would also change the prongs to claw prongs as I really dislike pegs.
 
thanks sarah..any reason for the prong preference? looks? security?

i got the basket idea from a JA setting and liked the prong look..but if the diamond might fall out, I'd reconsider
 
Are you planning on purchasing the wedding band or is it just there to model the gap?
I do like your plan of lifting the basket as a slightly higher basket makes the diamond appear larger, but I do think that the overall look seems not fluid, then again I think cathedrals lend to the fluidity and you mentioned not wanting the cathedral look. Maybe poke around a little on the BGD and James Allen sites to look at different baskets to gain inspiration from? Here were a couple I liked:
The first is from a JBEG ring
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The second one is similar, flower like design that someone else posted.
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The last one is a james allen one that reminded me of petals
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You're also going to get a lot of comments to consider claw prongs, but they tend to remind me of bird claws (which at least to me don't look right on jewelry). On the other hand they allow the diamond to be more visible.
 
Thanks for the advice.

The band is just for show...i have to get a simpler band (GF is jewish).

I agree, it doesn't look very fluid from some views. the ring it was modeled from looks much more so...i think it is the CAD is adding some bulk, but it also could be blended a bit better where the ring attaches to the basket.

The reason i did a custom ring was i didn't like how most pave/channel styles just look like an infinity ring with a setting placed on the top. i actually think how the basket integrates into the ring is better, when done right. hopefully we get it right =)
 
I like the idea of changing the height of the setting to the same height as the wedding band. This will create a smaller gap making the set look very beautiful.
 
should be getting my updated CAD today...I'm nervous and anxious.

I asked that the height of the part attaching the ring to the basket be higher, the basket itself be blended better with the ring itself. really hope it looks nice. GULP
 
EDIT -- IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE THIS PHOTO BIGGER?


Well, here it is..

the basket is a bit better..looks like the prongs were angled more which im not sure i like though...and the height of that piece attaching the ring to the basket wasn't raised.

looks like we'll be going to round 3.

any thoughts/observations on the ring or changes?

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trying to split the images so they are bigger

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Were you not going to change to claw prongs? The space/gap still looks the same and the basket hardly looks different? Did you want it sitting higher so your set would be flush?
 
I like the newer better but I think if the head itself is taller overall it still might do more for your look. Im not sure really what you're trying to accomplish but the more v-like head you have on round two is a lot more elegant and less clunky.
 
@04diamond
someone recommended claw prongs, but i prefer the style that is there.

the prongs were tapered a bit more to blend the basket in with the ring better. they assured me when polished, the edge won't be so sharp and it will blend even better. you're right..they did not make the height change as i mentioned in my post. im going to remind them about it.

any comment on the sharper angle of the prongs from the thru-finger view? I'm not sure if i like that or not..
is the diamond sitting at a good height?
 
ame|1358360603|3356998 said:
I like the newer better but I think if the head itself is taller overall it still might do more for your look. Im not sure really what you're trying to accomplish but the more v-like head you have on round two is a lot more elegant and less clunky.
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I didn't realize that changing the taper on the side view of the ring effect the other view, so the elegance was sort of accidental. I wasn't sure i like it when i first saw it, but its growing on me. do you think its proportional to the overall ring size?

what i was originally trying to accomplish was melding the body of this ring(http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/channel-bead-set-diamond-engagement-ring-714.htm) with the head of this one (http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-0.52ct-Three-Row-Pave-Set-Rounded-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-7726).

with the ring itself being thinner and this being my first ring venture, im finding there are many things i didn't consider ;)

@ame - you would recommend making the basket even higher?
 
Ok...about the prongs if that's what you want. But, any reason you didn't just remake, or buy the WF ring? Personally, if you have the V that's on there setting, it will allow for your band to sit flush. The basket head on the JA setting will always create a space. If you look at the lower part of the basket, it curves out, so unless they're able to make that non existent... then you'll always have that space. I would also suggest a spacer so your ering doesn't ruin you wedding band. which with the basket (i have a similar issue), it might.
 
The original WF basket looks like it was just stuck on top of the ring, whereas the basket on JA looks more integrated.

other PS users indicated that the JA ring with 3 row pave may not be an everyday ring, and might have issues with the wedding band -- I assumed because the diamonds are on the side and could scratch the metal.
 
flamingoezz|1358362215|3357027 said:
The original WF basket looks like it was just stuck on top of the ring, whereas the basket on JA looks more integrated.

other PS users indicated that the JA ring with 3 row pave may not be an everyday ring, and might have issues with the wedding band -- I assumed because the diamonds are on the side and could scratch the metal.
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I understand. I would ask them then how much higher than can make to as to eliminate the issue of the space at the bottom, but no so high that it'd become a problem for you (like knocking into everything and possibly damaging the head or loosing the stone). Just for security reasons OR you can leave it as is and get a spacer that will have an indentation in it to accommodate the basket at the bottom and will sit flush with your ering and wedding band! I'm sure you could have one made and maybe a thinner one...just thinking here, but I've seen it done on threads here, just forgot where they are...I'll look around.

Found one!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-victor-canera-emilya-2-7-ct-with-band-and-custom-spacer.177752/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-victor-canera-emilya-2-7-ct-with-band-and-custom-spacer.177752/[/URL]

the spacer allows for all the rings to sit flush! Just an idea ::)
 
[quote="04diamond
other PS users indicated that the JA ring with 3 row pave may not be an everyday ring, and might have issues with the wedding band -- I assumed because the diamonds are on the side and could scratch the metal.[/quote]

I understand. I would ask them then how much higher than can make to as to eliminate the issue of the space at the bottom, but no so high that it'd become a problem for you (like knocking into everything and possibly damaging the head or loosing the stone). Just for security reasons OR you can leave it as is and get a spacer that will have an indentation in it to accommodate the basket at the bottom and will sit flush with your ering and wedding band! I'm sure you could have one made and maybe a thinner one...just thinking here, but I've seen it done on threads here, just forgot where they are...I'll look around.

Found one!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-victor-canera-emilya-2-7-ct-with-band-and-custom-spacer.177752/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-victor-canera-emilya-2-7-ct-with-band-and-custom-spacer.177752/[/URL]

the spacer allows for all the rings to sit flush! Just an idea ::)[/quote]

OHHHH, that spacer is really cool. thanks for the idea!!

by 'how much higher they can go'...do you mean, raise the prongs up so a ring can sit under them? OR raise the diamond up and decrease the angle of the prongs so they sit more flush?

should I ask WF about it at this stage, or can any jeweler do it once she gets the ring and we find her a wedding band?
 
both...anything to make it more possible to have the bands sitting flush. If you like the spacer idea though, I would just get that and wouldn't worry about it anymore.

OH, and yes, if you're open to the spacer idea, I'd see if they can make you one to fit your ring...

Last edit, but see if they can make you one with a rectangular hole. The thread i attached had hers rounded because she had a doughnut hole, but yours isn't a hole. I'm sure they'll figure it out, jut thinking out loud here...
 
04diamond<3|1358364641|3357056 said:
both...anything to make it more possible to have the bands sitting flush. If you like the spacer idea though, I would just get that and wouldn't worry about it anymore.
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thanks for your input/insight

i'm drafting up an email for (hopeful) final edits - i mocked up how it would look with the height adjustment...which looks better?

do you think the height the diamond sits is ok?

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Just something to think about....while some people want a ring that will allow for a band to sit flush, other prefer a bit of a space as it clearly shows that the wearer is wearing two separate rings. A slight space has become popular lately, but not everyone loves it. You mentioned before that the CAD of the wedding band was just to give you an idea of what it would look like. Have you decided what type of band you/she will be wearing?

I also prefer the angle of the prongs in the second set of CADs.
 
flamingoezz|1358365095|3357066 said:
04diamond<3|1358364641|3357056 said:
both...anything to make it more possible to have the bands sitting flush. If you like the spacer idea though, I would just get that and wouldn't worry about it anymore.
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thanks for your input/insight

i'm drafting up an email for (hopeful) final edits - i mocked up how it would look with the height adjustment...which looks better?

do you think the height the diamond sits is ok?
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I think it's ok. The second one looks better to me. Is your g/f involved at all? If not, I imagine you want to keep it a surprise, but maybe you should get her input...If you haven't gotten the wedding band made too, that might actually be a good thing because you can give her the ering, but then decide together on whether or not to have a spacer made. She'll be the one wearing it so I think you should ask her.
 
Christina...|1358366529|3357096 said:
Just something to think about....while some people want a ring that will allow for a band to sit flush, other prefer a bit of a space as it clearly shows that the wearer is wearing two separate rings. A slight space has become popular lately, but not everyone loves it. You mentioned before that the CAD of the wedding band was just to give you an idea of what it would look like. Have you decided what type of band you/she will be wearing?

I also prefer the angle of the prongs in the second set of CADs.
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Religious traditions require her to wear a rather plain wedding band (uninterrupted and no stones), which is part of the reason i wanted to bling out her engagement ring -- she loves sparkles.

I'm keeping the whole thing a surprise...so I'll let her decide on the spacer and wedding band herself.

Thanks for replying...

The consensus seems to be that the more tapered design is more elegant so I guess that decides for me that the stone shouldn't be set higher, since that would reduce the taper. I guess I'll just make that one edit and get into production..

Thanks again for the assistance to all who replied.
hopefully she'll love it
 
I would ask for a more rounded prongs on the whole basket all around. That way it would look more like a custom wire basket rather than CAD/CAM. I'm not completely satisfied even with the new picture. Best of luck.
 
in roundness, do you mean where the prong bends?
 
i think we're on the right track now. im just about ready for the go-ahead. any thought on the height of the stone?..does that seem normal?

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Looks good. I personally like high set, so I'd even be ok a mm higher.
 
Better late than never. Received the ring on Friday and wanted to share. thanks so much for helping me with diamond suggestions, design feeback, ring sizing, and all the other dumb questions i came up with

For your viewing pleasure

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Oh that's stunning. Do you love it?
 
Gorgeous!!! :love: The real thing looks SO much better than the CADS! :appl:
 
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