Girdle and Girdle reflections should have MORE fire?

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

Hey, I have never thought to actually check this before.

But I open it up and the diamond is table down it lights up incredibly. We are talking about rays of fire all around the girdle, multiple colors lighting up simultaneously to encircle the whole diamond, the LGF''s lighting up and shining sometimes too (which worries me a little). Then when I put it in the stone holder and pick him up the top doesn''t have nearly as much fire as the girdle did upside down (probably being masked by white light?). Having worn it for the past 3 hours I can say it is def good in the face up position as well, though I haven''t had enough diamonds in my house lighting to say it is excellent and I am not 100% pleased with it (But I had some unrealistic dreams to begin with ). I do not have the best lighting, just the old 60W cheap Sylvan''s, and I only had one of them on tonight.

But still, When in my stone holder in the table up position the REFLECTION of the girdle as seen from the pavilion side is constantly flaring up with fire and bursting with little multi-color rays as well, even on the occasion that it is virtually void of dispersion from the table up view. Is this normal? because I swear in my house lighting it is almost more beautiful upside down.

But as I said I am not REAL impressed with it from the table up view under many indoor lighting conditions, though again that may just be due to my overly high expectations (I understand they can only work with the light I give them). Also an initial run of two candles in a semi dark room proved to be disappointing, but I have just started reading all the post on what to expect from firelight.

Any thoughts on whatever would be great! Mostly I just wanted to know if your girdles do that, as I have never thought to pay attention to it like that before in the stores, and my last diamond I had delivered was mounted and I spent most of my time either viewing it from top, or trying to decide to send it back or not from the side.

 

[ML2014]

Hi WHFSR...

I don''t have an answer for you on your girdle reflection question but one of the best lighting conditions for a diamond (at least mine) is in a Church. I had read this on PS but forgot about it, then last week, found myself in Church waiting for someone and looked down at my ring which was totally on fire. At every angle.

It is funny that just wjhen I begin to question my diamond''s performance (I''ve come to realize that I don''t neccearily have high expectaions as much as perhaps unrealistic ones), I look down at my ring and it''s all firey.

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

Let me get this straight?

Are you the kind of person, who buys a car, puts it wheels-up-roof-down, and then steps on the gas to see how fast it is?

Sorry for the sarcasm in this, but the approach seems similar to what you are talking about now, putting the stone table down, and then judging its light performance. In this position, you have light entering the stone through the pavilion and exiting again through the pavilion. This has no meaning after you set the stone into a jewel, because there will be no light entering through the pavilion anymore.

Once again, sorry for the sarcastic tone, but I could not resist it.

Live long,

 

[diamondseeker2006]

My ring also looks good in church, in stores with halogen lamps like Home Depot, etc. You see no fire in flourescent light, just whiteness. My ring looks least good in home lighting, so don''t sweat it. I sometimes think we overdo our descriptions of these stones and then people have unrealistic expectations about how they are really supposed to look! They do look great in certain lighting, but that lighting is not in all environments!

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

Date: 7/4/2007 11:29:38 AM
Author: Paul-Antwerp
Let me get this straight?


Are you the kind of person, who buys a car, puts it wheels-up-roof-down, and then steps on the gas to see how fast it is?


Sorry for the sarcasm in this, but the approach seems similar to what you are talking about now, putting the stone table down, and then judging its light performance. In this position, you have light entering the stone through the pavilion and exiting again through the pavilion. This has no meaning after you set the stone into a jewel, because there will be no light entering through the pavilion anymore.


Once again, sorry for the sarcastic tone, but I could not resist it.


Live long,

wheeeewww...you hit the boundry point there, I was ALMOST offended. and yes, I do test gas mileage with the car upside down as it gives a max mileage point to work off of--something to shoot for.


But seriously, no it is not that I judge it upside down. It is because the diamond is wrapped in its little paper and everytime I unfold it the diamond is upside down. Then as soon as I see it their is this magnificent ring of fire with longer and shorter burst encircling the diamond. Everytime I see it I get real giddy and excited,then I turn it over and there are some pinpoint flahses a little burst then some period of inactivity with alot of sparkles which is generally the case indoors, though with less dispersed lighting there is of course a bit more fire, but nothing indoors that makes me GIDDY like it did when I first open up the diamond upside down.


Also, the girdle reflection fire is VERY apparent when it is in my ring type stone holder (equivalent to being mounted).
I have been using it while typing and watching tv on my computer and in 1 house light and the computer light the reflection located about halfway down the pavilion (you know where you can see the girdle reflected from the pavilion side?) is constantly firing and flaring, even when I don't see any activity from the table up (albeit it is hard to see both at the same time). Which I do not recall in my last diamond and I was wondering if this is the way it always is, as I had never thought to check the girdle reflection for fire before....but it is very present when say, sitting on a knee and I have a side view of the diamond.



NOTE: while I welcome any suggestions as to how to get the best light performance from my diamond, I am well aware that angles and different lighting will affect light performance, though I do still need to do more research...in particular observations...before REALLY understanding how it affects that performance. All though I am nervous and somewhat excited to find out how it performs at my girlfriends house. All of their lights are open fluo coils. I haven't seen anything like that here....

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 7/4/2007 11:29:38 AM
Author: Paul-Antwerp
Let me get this straight?

Are you the kind of person, who buys a car, puts it wheels-up-roof-down, and then steps on the gas to see how fast it is?

Sorry for the sarcasm in this, but the approach seems similar to what you are talking about now, putting the stone table down, and then judging its light performance. In this position, you have light entering the stone through the pavilion and exiting again through the pavilion. This has no meaning after you set the stone into a jewel, because there will be no light entering through the pavilion anymore.

Once again, sorry for the sarcastic tone, but I could not resist it.

Live long,

LOL Paul - you''re funny! With rounds I would agree.... they''re performance runners. But with other diamond shapes sometimes there is a sculptural quality that encourages viewing from more than one view (top up). I don''t think IRBs are sculptural in 3D though. Not like a nice big chunky deep cushion can be hehehe

 

[surfgirl]

Gee Sara, you sound like an anti-Roundite...

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

Let us look at your question logically.

You have purchased a stone with a good Idealscope-image, thus with very little light leakage. This means that light entering through the top (table plus crown) of the stone will mostly leave again through the top. Leakage would mean that light entering through the top leaves through the pavilion, or light entering through the pavilion leaves through the top.

Since your stone has little leakage, if you put it upside down, light entering through the pavilion will most likely leave again through the pavilion. Basically, you could say that you can judge the same brilliance upside down.

As for fire, with the higher angle of the pavilion, compared to the crown, and/or with the bigger surface of the pavilion, it is probably safe to assume that the rays of light exiting in this way through the pavilion will get more dispersed, and that fire is thus much more apparent when looking at the stone upside down.

So, I think that it is safe to assume that a better-cut stone will also look better if you look at it upside-down.

Live long,

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/4/2007 2:51:38 PM
Author: surfgirl
Gee Sara, you sound like an anti-Roundite...

She does, although secretly she covets an ACA.

lol


I''ve heard rounds called "boring" more than once on here, and all I can say is, I''ve had my stone 15 months, and I can go into new places and STILL get different visual effects. I wouldn''t call that boring.

There is beauty to be appreciated in all shapes, imo.

Personally, I''d love to own one of each.

 

[chrono]

Date: 7/5/2007 11:44:02 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/4/2007 2:51:38 PM
Author: surfgirl
Gee Sara, you sound like an anti-Roundite...

She does, although secretly she covets an ACA.

lol


I''ve heard rounds called ''boring'' more than once on here, and all I can say is, I''ve had my stone 15 months, and I can go into new places and STILL get different visual effects. I wouldn''t call that boring.

There is beauty to be appreciated in all shapes, imo.

Personally, I''d love to own one of each.

Don''t we all?