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They have clarity enhanced diamonds ready to go in 3.5 ct for 7 or 8k that seems like a damn good price. w hats the catch?

Also i found a clarity enhanced loose diamond at a pawn shop nearm e that is being displayed as si1 H 2.4 ct with 64% depth no EGL cert. It does look pretty qhite compared to the other stones asking price 4300.


Is it a bad idea to take that rick for 2.4 ct for 4300?

what about the freddydiamonds.com

This will be for an engagement ring.
 
Here's a red flag I spotted on his website.

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All diamonds guaranteed and include an independant gia appraisal (replacement value two - four times cost).
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GIA does not do appraisals and they don't even offer grading reports on CE diamonds.
And how can every diamond he carries be F or G?

I would not buy a CE diamond, but that's just me.
 
Do a search on Pricescope for "clarity enhanced" or "clarity-enhanced" and read the experiences others have had with these stones to educate yourself on the pros and cons of these stones.

Also, if this is for an engagement ring, does your fiance know that you are considering a CE stone? Some women may not mind; others would be offended to receive a CE diamond, no matter how large the stone is.
 
Mohs makes an excellent point- GIA does not issue appraisals.
I did not look at the site in question- but any seller makijng such a claim has shown they are not being forthright.

There are people who do love CE diamonds- although probably not many posting here.
There are potential problems with CE stones you should be aware of.

The treatment includes injecting silicon ( plastic) into a diamond.
If you buy a CE diamond loose, there may be problems setting it as some settings require a lot of heat to be used- which might melt the silicon.
 
I do not know enough about CEs to decide if 4K is a gd price to pay for a 2.5 ct but logic dictates that there''s no such thing as free lunch; it''s always a trade off. If it involves sacrificing durability, I wouldn''t touch CE diamonds with a 10 ft pole. If what RD pointed out is true, I would not pay for silicon filled diamonds for sure. But future reselling complications alone would kill the deal for me.
 
Congratulations on your upcoming engagement.

The recipe for the filling solution differs from one manufacturer to the next but the whole idea of clarity enhancement is to fill some of the surface reaching inclusions with material that helps make them less visible under a normal viewing environment. It doesn’t make them go away or somehow repair them. If it was an I2 before, it's still and I2, it's just been gussied up a bit. If there was a durability problem before the enhancement it will still be there, just harder to spot. It’s also correct that these things are sensitive to heat and chemical damage and it’s important that any jeweler who works on it be told that it’s there just in case they don’t notice it. There are several common tasks in a jewelry shop that will leave diamonds completely unaffected but will destroy the filling material. They are generally reasonably durable under normal wear type conditions but you do need to be aware of these special care requirements. Avoid ultrasonic cleaners for example.

Is $4k worth it for that particular stone? That’s up to you. It's a mistake to try and compare CE stones with untreated natural stones that have similar sounding grades. It's simply not the same product. Shopping CE stones for comparable sales is more difficult than with untreated natural stones and the first question is one of grading. CE stones are not graded using the standard GIA scales and it leads to a huge range of confusion about what exactly SI1-CE means. To some it might mean I-1 and that H may very well mean J. Use your own. Also be aware that there is an opportunity for a huge conflict of interest between the seller and the grader. Pay attention to WHO did the grading and what scale they are using. If you don’t have good reason to trust the grader, don’t. Hire your own. After you decide what it is, only then can you shop for alternatives at competitive vendors.

I think it may benefit you to make as one of the terms of sale that the stone be graded your own grader, at your expense, and that you have the right to return it for a 100% refund for ANY REASON if it comes up short of your expectations.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver
 
Date: 7/26/2009 9:55:47 AM
Author:getmoney
They have clarity enhanced diamonds ready to go in 3.5 ct for 7 or 8k that seems like a damn good price. w hats the catch?

Also i found a clarity enhanced loose diamond at a pawn shop nearm e that is being displayed as si1 H 2.4 ct with 64% depth no EGL cert. It does look pretty qhite compared to the other stones asking price 4300.


Is it a bad idea to take that rick for 2.4 ct for 4300?

what about the freddydiamonds.com

This will be for an engagement ring.
does he also own freddy''s used car lot??
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keep the $4300 bucks in your pocket.
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Remember, you get what you pay for...
 
Very very shady website...I wouldn''t touch it with a ten foot pole.
 
If you can''t afford a big real diamond, just go out and buy a smaller one. Don''t try to fool yourself thinking you''re getting something good by buying a clarity-enhanced diamond. It''s basically a broken diamond filled in with another substance. Is that what you want for your engagment ring?
 
I wouldn''t buy a CE diamond.. how about getting a great stone for what you can afford BUT buy it from a vendor with a great TRADE UP policy...then in the future you can upgrade
 
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