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Galron

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OK here is the deal I was at Blue Nile and found a good rock for an engagement ring I plan on doing very soon, but now after being here I am confused. The rock I been looking at is an H color a VVS2, Ideal cut and Ideal polish and everything. Now I see a lot of people picking up SI1 diamonds, is clarity not so important? I want a rock that sparkles, what should I look at first? Not regarding carat weight; how would you rate importance of a diamond from the 4 C’s
 
color and clarity do not make a diamond sparkle. diamond performance is dependent on the cut... the most important ''c'' by far!
you can learn more about ''cut'' in the knowledge section at the very top of this page.
 
It''s natural to be overwhelmed. I urge you to be patient and learn from this site and others before pulling the trigger, you may be glad you did.

The answer to your question about the 4c''s resides in the tutorial provided by PriceScope here as well as the very thorough tutorial created by Rhino at Good Old Gold here. Take your time, peruse these pages with a glass of wine, and learn about why Cut is by far and away the most important C; why VVS clarity is actually paying for more clarity than you or she can physically see with the naked eye, etc.

Good luck,
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Ditto! I just want to add that for ME, after cut, I try to get the highest color I can or stick with the color and get a larger size...and let clarity slide a bit...Don't get me wrong, if it is THE stone, I'll take the vvs quality and pay more for it, but I would ideally like to go down in clarity a bit so I can go up in color or in size or just save the money! :) But again, that's just me and what's important to me! I definitely think bluenile is way overpriced though!
 
Ya might feel confused now, but I SWEAR it will really clear up quickly and you''ll be SO happy you took a little more time to figure out your personal priorities. Most folks on here would stress CUT as the most important factor in picking a stone.
What SHAPE of stone are you considering?

The reason I ask is Round Brilliants or Princesses or Radiants are "busier" cuts, with more facets and intense pattern that generally and can hide more inclusions than "step cuts" like Emerald Cuts or Asscher cuts. It''s also easier to determine "super ideal cuts" in Round Brilliant stones & Princess stones because the AGS labs have a grade for those stones AGS OOO. It''s right on the grading certificate, and you can be assured the stone is in the top teeny percentages of stones in terms of cut.
 
I''m in a very similer situation, looking at BlueNile too, and was amazed at how much more there was to know about diamonds.

Definitley check out the links povided here, and you''ll see Cut is considered the most important. Not just Ideal (or BN Signature Ideal), but the angles on the facets of the rock.

Find a few you like, then enter them in to the Cut Advisor.

You''ll hear a lot of opinions about the 4Cs, so read several of the posts, and you''ll find a general concensus. The two phrases you''ll hear (read) are "eye clean" vs. "mind clean". Eye clean is looking good when you look at the stone; it''s sparkely and looks good. "Mind clean," as I understand it, is what''s perfect to you. For example, I''m only willing to go down to a VVS1 or VVS2 in Clarity. Others are thrilled with a clean SI1. Same with Color, Cut, etc.
 
I agree that other than cut, the other C''s are highly personal. I prefer the highest I can get on al the 4 C''s. I will go to G-H on color to be able to get the size I want, but VS1 is the lowest clarity I want for a ring. So if you have chosen an ideal cut VVS2, I think that is just fine. Get the highest of all the C''s you can afford in the diamond size you prefer, but stick with a stone that is AGS0 or GIA excellent (and meets the AGS0 standards) and you should do very well.
 
Welcome to PS
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The importance of clarity is up to the individual. Some only want a very high clarity with minuscule inclusions to match their comfort zones, others such as many here prefer a lower clarity such as an SI - providing it is eyeclean, to maximise size. As Belle says, cut is by far the most important of the C's, without a great cut even a D colour flawless diamond will look like a dull chunk of glass. So focus your search around cut and the rest will fall into place. Maybe a VS clarity might be a good middleground for you. So clarity is important in so far as a diamond is clean to the eye and doesn't have any durability issues, but cut is what makes the diamond beautiful.

As the others have said, take your time and read the tutorials to learn about cut and the tools available to you to judge cut, in a round diamond this is straightforward, in a fancy shape more difficult but still can be done. I promise you, you will be very glad you took the time to learn what to look for!
 
If you want more sparkle than you need a high clarity, color of the stone has notin to do with the sparkle. You`ll be fine as long as u`ll get up to VS2, some people would even say SI1 is stil good.
 
oh yeah, it should be an ideal cut!
 
Date: 8/15/2006 10:55:47 AM
Author: AnnieStar
If you want more sparkle than you need a high clarity,
Annie welcome to PS
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I don't know if I understand you correctly, but are you saying that clarity gives a diamond it's sparkle? It is cut quality actually that gives a diamond it's beauty, clarity doesn't affect sparkle unless we are talking about an I2 or i3 diamond which is badly and visibly included. However even a diamond with a visible inclusion can still be sparkly and beautiful as long as the cut is good. Also many here have extremely clean SI2 clarity diamonds which look incredible. Just wanted to clarify that
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Date: 8/14/2006 8:54:33 PM
Author:Galron
Not regarding carat weight; how would you rate importance of a diamond from the 4 C’s
This has been reviewed broadly, and repeatedly, but your question is laid out in the tutorial here.
 
Date: 8/15/2006 10:55:47 AM
Author: AnnieStar
If you want more sparkle than you need a high clarity, color of the stone has notin to do with the sparkle. You`ll be fine as long as u`ll get up to VS2, some people would even say SI1 is stil good.
This isn't correct......unless heavily included (I2, etc.), clarity has nothing to do with the sparkle of a diamond either.

Cut cut cut is what determines the sparkle of a diamond.
 
Date: 8/15/2006 11:06:48 AM
Author: aljdewey

Date: 8/15/2006 10:55:47 AM
Author: AnnieStar
If you want more sparkle than you need a high clarity, color of the stone has notin to do with the sparkle. You`ll be fine as long as u`ll get up to VS2, some people would even say SI1 is stil good.
This isn''t correct......unless heavily included (I2, etc.), clarity has nothing to do with the sparkle of a diamond either.

Cut cut cut is what determines the sparkle of a diamond.
No, a high clarity will not make your diamond sparkle.
 
Has anyone ever bought any stones from the website diamondsatcost?

I want to upgrade my current stone, which is a .91 ct round brillant clarity enhanced (I know, that''s a sticky subject) to a 1.13 - 1.25 round brillant natural clarity stone.

This site has very good prices, but I don''t know antying about them.

Thanks,

Dawn
 
I would start a new thread to discuss this instead of adding on to someone elses. Go to "new topic" at the top of this page.
 
Dawn, that is one I haven't heard of, but you can do a search on this site to see. Under the Resources tab is a list of diamond vendors that advertise here, and many of them have glowing testimontials over many years on this site.
 
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