Found same diamond on White Flash and James Allen

[bku82]

I first found the diamond on WF and they told me that they needed to get it sent in from their vendor since they didn''t have it in-house. They at least gave me the GIA report to look at before they got it in for their own inspection. While looking for diamonds on James Allen, I found the EXACT diamond listed (the GIA number was the same). Is this a common occurrence? If it is in fact the same diamond, who should I purchase this from? Here is the link to the diamond, let me know what you all think of the diamond.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1179595.asp

 

[bku82]

oh, and here''s the whiteflash listing

http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-1072800.htm

 

[pmpkn42]

Buy from the people who actually have the stone in their possession as they can look at it in person and give you more details, plus you''ll save money as it is their stone and is not on memo to other jewelers.

 

[swingirl]

It''s not uncommon for diamonds to be listed by more than one vendor. The vendor has many stones in house but also offers to call in ones they don''t have.

Location might make a difference. WF in in Texas, JA is in MD. Prices are the same. WF usually will take more photos of the stone but they both are reputable vendors. Choose the one who can help you most with your setting.

 

[Lorelei]

This isn''t unusual, this diamond is what is known as a virtual stone, and can appear with many vendors. Basically this diamond is owned by the cutting house/ suppliers and by listing it with many vendors also gives each vendor a shot at the sale, and access to many millions of dollars worth of diamonds they couldn''t afford to stock as inventory.

Ask the vendor you like best to call it in.

 

[Lord Summerisle]

yes it is common. the diamond is held by a seperate wholeseller - who provide lists of their diamonds to many different vendors.

if you looked, you''d probly find the diamond listed on Blue Nile as well, as well as a couple of UK vendors like Quality Diamonds. you''d also find that many bricks and motar shop have access to the same lists.

Its not necessarily bad. The best thing is a vendor who will call the stone in and have a look at it and answer any concerns you may have and check its alright. Other vendors would just place an order with the wholeseller, and they would send the stone direct to you without the person you bought it from ever seeing it. The other thing is that the stone may be sold by one of the vendors who lists the stone before you buy... but the wholesellers list is not updated immediatly.


regarding the stone in question - without passing comment on how well it performs, as it is difficult to comment, the proportions listed on the cert available on the James Allen page - it has the makings of a nice stone - 57% table, 60.9% depth, 34.5° crown, 40.8° Pavilion. My worry is the wisp that is plotted accross the centre of the stone. This i *personally* would like the opinion of the experts as to its visability to the naked eye, and if there are any durability issues with the inculsion. As to who to go with - if your happy with the service you''ve had from whiteflash so far, stick with them. If not consider James Allen. Both vendors have excellent reputations on here. Personally, having used Whiteflash - i cant recommend them high enough.
Price wise - the diamond is listed on both sites for the same amount - both have a similar discount for pricescope members

as a comparison: this is an inhouse stone - a Whiteflash ACA 1.02ct H SI1 [here] but the inculsion looks to be alot smaller. When set, i dont think you''d be able to see the difference in the colour between the 2 stones.

 

[bku82]

Thanks for the responses everyone, I think you have me convinced that this is ok

Summerisle: I was looking at that same diamond also. Is it worth the extra $300 for an ACA even though I''d be going from an F to an H?

 

[smithy617]

same diamond....then i think James Allen will be cheaper in price cuz you get the PS discount + additional bank wire discount
WF will only get you 5% off total

but personally...I like WF better as far as service goes...IMO

 

[kcoursolle]

Date: 7/11/2008 2:18:34 PM
Author: bku82
Thanks for the responses everyone, I think you have me convinced that this is ok

Summerisle: I was looking at that same diamond also. Is it worth the extra $300 for an ACA even though I''d be going from an F to an H?

Both stones are absolutely lovely, you really can''t go wrong here with this decision. The inclusions on the JA stone are twinning wisps which are very hard to see with the naked eye and with a microscope, so I think these inclusions are just fine compared to the other stone which has a black inclusion towards the middle of the stone.

Can you still get the 100% lifetime upgrade policy if you buy the JA stone from WF? Since WF''s upgrade policy is slightly better than JA, this might be the route I would go. ACA stones are of course amazing, but the other stone will be incredible too...and I don''t see the need to pay more for the ACA.

 

[Lord Summerisle]

Date: 7/11/2008 2:18:34 PM
Author: bku82
Thanks for the responses everyone, I think you have me convinced that this is ok

Summerisle: I was looking at that same diamond also. Is it worth the extra $300 for an ACA even though I''d be going from an F to an H?

its a known quanity - that its passed the criterior of Brian to be branded ACA - i think its worth a shout to Whiteflash, especially since you''ve already talked to them, to ask their view as to weither the stone is eye clean. They have a clear policy about what they consider eye clean. Personally i''d go with the ACA, as i perfer to go with a stone thats instock and can be pulled out of the safe and chat.. and see the info before hand. (thats not to say the virtual lists dont hold some good stones... but for diamonds held in stock by WF, JA, Good Old Gold, wink jones, NiceIce - they have done much of the hard work for you, selecting (or in the case of the ACA or Infinity diamonds sold by Wink - cutting) stone they think are the best.

 

[purrfectpear]

Date: 7/11/2008 2:56:37 AM
Author: pmpkn42
Buy from the people who actually have the stone in their possession as they can look at it in person and give you more details, plus you''ll save money as it is their stone and is not on memo to other jewelers.

Wrong answer.

The stone is probably not sitting in the vault of any of the vendors who are listing it in their virtual inventory. Buy from the vendor that 1. you trust or have the best references from, and 2. have the best upgrade policy.

I trust Whiteflash implicitly, but there are many great references for other Pricescope vendors as well.

 

[caligirl08]

Check out the upgrade policy from Whiteflash- I think it''s better than most out there!
For me (personally), that would be a major selling point.