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Sorry, for what you would pay for this stone, I''d rather have a well cut round from one of the PS vendors. Too unusual. Selma''s story that kcoursolle linked to is really upsetting.

I''d get this stone for a wonderful pendant, and find out what her desires are for an ering by doing some window shopping. Better for her to have a bit of a clue that the ring is coming, than to surprise her with something she may not love.

After all, marriage is mutual. Make some aspects of the ering choice mutual as well, and it will bode you well.
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Date: 6/7/2007 3:28:07 PM
Author: The_Running_Realtor
Given the choice of a round 1 carat, H color, SI2 or Trillion 2 Carat, E color VS2... I would be very surprised if she chose the lesser stone.

you could do a poll here and get feedback from the women on this forum, but I'd take that 1 carat round over the 2 carat trillion no question.
 
I guess I''m the black sheep of the crowd...but I like the idea of a Trillion!

I think it''s unique, and in the right setting could be magnificent.
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Love the bezel idea....

If you are gettting a good deal on it, DEFINITELY buy it. Whether you give it to her as an e-ring or not you can do so much with it. Make it into a pendant....sell it and put the money towards a different diamond....have it re-cut. So many options!

But once again, I love the idea for a trillion as the center stone. I think that you should definitely go more modern with it. Maybe a bezel set solitaire? No side stones...no pave....just the trillion. Beautiful!
 
Here''s the thing about the ''lesser stone'' mindset. It''s your mindset. But to someone who doesn''t like Trillions, but does like rounds or squares a one carat (very respectable size) stone of the right shape... with an upgrade policy is going to be the ''better stone'' and the trilliant would be the lesser stone.

I would encourage you to poll about it.

Which would you prefer for your engagement ring:
1 carat stone of H, SI or VS2 of what ever shape you like best.
OR a 2 carat eyeclean E Trillion?

See what the majority on here say...
 
Here are some pictures to help you imagine it a little better....

This one has two trillions, but you get the basic idea of what it would look like bezel set.

double trillion.jpg
 
Here is one that isn''t a diamond....but again, you get the basic idea.

like this but with a diamond.jpg
 
hmmmmm?

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Etienne Perret is who I''d use for a modern, but feminine bezel for a trillion. I was trying to get on his catalog but I couldn''t pull up all the pics of his ''high halo" settings.

EtiennePerret_Mhighhalo.jpg
 
Maybe I should have spoken up earlier before the claws came out. I guess the majority of girls on here don't like it....but I would take it in a heartbeat.
 
Looks like costume jewelry or RHR, not an ering.
 
I would much perfer a smaller round than a bigger trillion. Honestly, that shape is so taste specific that it would be a huge risk to get it for her.
 
I think the channel set baguette shank setting is the most ''engagement ring'' like... pave would work too. But here are some other options:

This one with just the a single halo.

Trillion halo.jpg
 
I don''t think trillion/antique is a good combo... but here it is anyway. Knox could do this

trillion antique.gif
 
Does the trillion in question have bowed sides or straight? Looking at the pictures I could get behind a bowed sided E color, 2 ct trillion depending on the setting! With the straight sides...that'd have to be one creative setting in my book.
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That channeled bagg band Gypsy posted was pretty darn cool.

ETA: Here's one other thing to consider. Let's play devil's advocate. Good deal to be had on trillion. You want to go that route instead of a rb. Why spend a lot on a setting BEFORE you know she really wants it? Put it in a temp setting or propose with the stone and THEN ask her whether she loves the stone or would rather have a smaller rb. You'd have to be creative with this so as not to disclose the reason behind having this stone (let's face it, it's not romantic) but your problem would be solved, right? If she does want the trillion, perhaps she'd have some ideas on how SHE would want a stone with that unique of a shape set....
 
I would definitely prefer a 1 carat round or princess cut diamond over a 2 carat trillion. I think you should definitely heed the advice of a bunch of diamond-obsessed women on this one.

I''m truly not trying to be negative or nasty. Did you read the thread kcoursolle linked to about the woman who hated her engagement ring? It''s very likely that you''ll end up in the same upsetting situation if you propose with a trillion diamond ring she hates.
 
When I was furnishing my condo, I had the opportunity to buy Herman Miller furniture at a discount. This worked well for a lot of my furnishings, but in wanting to take advantage of a bargain, I bought a round cherry Eames table for my dining table. Is it a nice table? Yes. Did I get a great deal on it? Yes. Does it suit a design aesthetic that I am happy with? No.

I really think you are caught in a similar situation. You perceive a great deal, and want to shoe horn it into your engagement ring. But I think aesthetically it is a bad idea, especially given the prevailing wisdom of this crowd.

I just want to comment on your assumption that she would choose a larger atypical stone over a smaller round stone. Let''s be honest, this whole diamond ring thing is a result of socialization. In keeping with that, what other women think and say about the ring can color and change her opinion of the ring. And if most women are saying that they would never want a trillion, how long do you think it will be before she clues into that? My girlfriend thought she wanted a three stone ring until we went to look around at DeBeers and the sales lady said that in fact, no she didn''t want a three stone, because it generally is for older people. I was thinking, who are you to tell her what she wants and doesn''t want, but my girlfriend took to that advice and stopped considering them altogether.

Pray she never finds this forum if you do end up giving her that diamond!
 
I agree with most of the other posters. Trillions make for beautiful pendants and nice right hand rings, but I wouldn''t be happy with a trillion engagement ring. And I''m not a "traditional" type either. There''s a lot to be said for proposing with a fake and then designing the ring together. You can mention the trillion to her, and if she loves it, go for it!

Or, if you still want the whole thing to be a surprise, choose something classy and simple that 90% of women are guaranteed to like. Take a round brilliant, for example. A well-cut RB sparkles like nothing else, hides flaws, and makes a lower-colored stone appear whiter. I chose a princess, but I would have been happy with a round as well, because they''re just so pretty and classic. I''d recommend something like this stone:
http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-232073.htm#

...in this ring:
http://www.whiteflash.com/Engagement-Rings/Styles/Solitaire/-Legato--Sleek-Line_1118.htm

In white gold, it''s well within your price range. In platinum with the Pricescope and bank wire discounts, it may very well be close (I''m too lazy to do the math).
 
Date: 6/7/2007 2:50:17 PM
Author: FireGoddess

Date: 6/7/2007 2:46:55 PM
Author: kcoursolle
If the appraisal goes well for the trillion, I would buy it and give it to her for a one year marriage anniversary as a *PENDANT*. TRillions make great pendants.

Get her the ring that she wants rather than one with the stone that you made work because it was a great deal.
Great minds think alike. This is exactly what I was thinking (or give it to her as a wedding present instead of anniversary).
I''ll agree with this and all the other posts. NO way would I suggest a trillion for an e-ring. If the diamond is a good deal, then get it for a pendant. But PLEASE do not set it in an engagement ring!

(And by the way, most appraisals are very inflated. I wouldn''t even give him half of what an appraisal says because that would likely be the retail value. He will not have an easy time selling a trillion, so don''t make the mistake of offering too much.)
 
You know, I kinda like some of the settings luckystar posted. I''ve also been starting to think about how a trillion would look with a halo...something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Trillion-Aquamarine-Diamond-Ring-Size/dp/B000HJCV0G/ref=sr_1_10/104-4577681-2733553?ie=UTF8&s=jewelry&qid=1181271806&sr=1-10

I still maintain that it''s not a good idea for an engagement ring, especially if it''s going to be a surprise. But if you discuss it her and she loves the idea, there are some more interesting setting ideas here:
http://www.jewelryexpert.com/

I''ve never bought anything from this jeweler, and frankly some things there seem a little expensive, but their pieces never fail to wow me.
 
I think this may work as an e-ring pretty well.

TrillionFor-Realtor.jpg
 
While I am all for getting the most for your money, and stumbled on (and became obsessed with) PS as a result, I think you need to step back and think about the meaning of this gift. This should be something you choose for her because you know she''ll love it and always love looking at it as a reminder of that moment you asked her to marry you.
 
I hope I don''t offend anyone here.... I love the idea of trillions for sidestones, pendants, and especially earrings
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, but these trillion engagement rings really remind me of Superman. Personally, I would be disappointed by this shape of stone. And I''m someone who loves non-traditional shapes (pears, marquises, hearts). Sorry-just being honest.
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Oh No. You are totally right about superman. I looks like it would be perfect for Lois ... yikes.
 
Hmm, wonder where the OP is. Did we scare the poor guy away?
 
Date: 6/8/2007 10:17:47 PM
Author: jstarfireb
Hmm, wonder where the OP is. Did we scare the poor guy away?

Hahaha-I think we did, jstar! Oh well...I just really hope he listens to the extremely vocal majority on this one, but it sure doesn''t seem like he''s going to if we go by his last (possibly final?) post.

P.S. The Superman comparison is perfect, Siamese Kitty!
 
Date: 6/8/2007 1:12:12 PM
Author: Pricescope
I think this may work as an e-ring pretty well.
Gorgeous! I would take that ring in a HEART BEAT
 
Date: 6/7/2007 1:42:29 PM
Author:The_Running_Realtor
I have a friend that is possibly going to sell me a diamond that is a trillion shape. It is currently in a pendant and is gorgeous. It is from a divorce and he absolutely wants to get rid of it, most likely for MUCH less than he paid. He gave me the stone and said to get it looked at to find out color, clarity, cut, etc. I am getting engaged soon and if it is a great deal then I will most likely have a platinum setting custom made for it. Should I get an apprasial, certification or both? Also, can I go to a random jewelry store and ask them to take a look at it or are there specialty places that just specialize in certifying diamonds? It looks very, very nice and most likely I can buy it for well below what it is worth. I was really looking for a round stone but if this is a great deal then I may go with this one. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Trillion Shape Diamonds..., have tons of different varieties... (as wild as Cushions)
Cuts could be based on brilliant/step/novilty type faceting structure....
" " " deep/shallow depth''s etc, etc...

They are extremely hard to use for single stone ring designs (although i have seen some unique designs...)

Its only worth what you are willing to pay it for!!!

You have priceless advice here above..., use it correctly!





 
Just a follow up:

Thank you for all the advice. It was well received. I did have a friend send me an email (fake email, btw) mentioning that he was thinking of getting married and wanted to know our opinion of his ring....I just picked out a setting with a trillion center stone and put it in the email. Her comments were "looks nice, but I would not want that stone".

Guess I am glad I asked.

However, because I know that the stone is worth more than it would cost me, my friend said I could buy it for $1000 and if I was able to get more for it on a trade or sale I was welcome to. I took it to a couple local jelwers that looked and told me that at first thought the trillion would be approx 2.0 carats, E -F color VS1. Certainly worth more that $1000 bucks. I have a setting that I am also trading with it towards a round stone. The jewler offered $1500 for the trillion on a trade so I have already made $500 on the stone in a short period of time. I am now trying to figure out if the stone I am considering is priced right. (That is another thread).

Thanks for all the feedback. I am glad I did not rush into giving her this stone just because it is relatively large and has a nice color...the shape is simply too different for her.

The Running Realtor
 
I hope you don''t trade the trillion without getting a real appraisal. It might be worth $10,000 and it would be very sad to let it go for $1500! It might make a great pendant, or as I said on your other thread, perhaps it could even be recut into a more pleasing shape. But you need to be sure what it is worth before you do anything. $500 extra toward a new diamond is not that much help to basically give away a more valuable stone. And I do question why the friend would sell it for only $1000. Lots of reasons to get a proper appraisal.
 
ok...I will definitely get it apprasied. Thank you for the advice...I agree with eberything you said...just trying to make a good decsion. I have never been married so this whole process is nerve racking to say the least..haha

TRR
 
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