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MikeThisIs

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The ring is being custom made as I write this. Now I am just deciding between two diamonds that I can get through the same local jeweller. Both diamonds are the same price.

Option 1: 0.61 / E / SI1 / Excellent

GIA Report and Idealscope Attached
Measurement 5.56x5.57x3.27

Option 2: 0.62 / E / SI1 / Excellent

GIA Report and Idealscope attached
Measurement 5.45x5.48x3.41

My feeling is that Option 1 looks the better stone and certainly comes out with a better score on the HCA. But would appreciate opinions from the experts here on both! :) And please be honest if you don't feel either work, as I can get him to look into a few more options if necessary.

Thank you as usual for your amazing help! 8 days until I ask the question!! If you are interested in how I'm planning to do it, I've created a post in the Proposal Ideas section :)

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I think you should look at more choices. The crown angles for both don't look too good.
 
Neither...the first one is steep/deep and the second one big table with a flat crown... :knockout:
 
I personally would look for a better one, but of these two, the .61 has better light return and a larger diameter.
 
Hmmm this is disappointing!

Here is another one with a better crown angle. See attached GIA report.

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The Jogia one looks promising. I contacted them and they assure me that it is eye clean.
 
Not-insignificant painting - I don't know if GIA would demote cut grade but I'm guessing it'd be close.

I don't know what to make of that clarity comment either. Whether or not the stone is "eyeclean" isn't really the issue - a cloudy stone can be eyeclean, meaning that you can't see the inclusions that make up the clouds, but still be noticeably duller because the clouds are impeding light return. The comment "Clarity based on clouds not shown" is a red flag in an SI, but clarity partly based on clouds not shown is a new one on me...

All in all it's a painted shallower-pav stone (I'd prefer a steeper pavilion in a painted stone) with a mysterious clarity comment... I personally would strongly recommend seeing it in-person before committing to it, or skipping it if that's not possible given your timeline.

ETA:
http://diamondcut.gia.edu/pdf/estimating_painitng.pdf
http://www.diamondcut.gia.edu/pdf/6_05_RDR_pg239_243pdf.pdf
 
Yssie|1417996676|3797420 said:
Not-insignificant painting - I don't know if GIA would demote cut grade but I'm guessing it'd be close.

I don't know what to make of that clarity comment either. Whether or not the stone is "eyeclean" isn't really the issue - a cloudy stone can be eyeclean, meaning that you can't see the inclusions that make up the clouds, but still be noticeably duller because the clouds are impeding light return. The comment "Clarity based on clouds not shown" is a red flag in an SI, but clarity partly based on clouds not shown is a new one on me...

All in all it's a painted shallower-pav stone (I'd prefer a steeper pavilion in a painted stone) with a mysterious clarity comment... I personally would strongly recommend seeing it in-person before committing to it, or skipping it if that's not possible given your timeline.
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Thank you Yssie. I also have concerns as the AGS report and the cut report provided don't seem to match (the numbers are all slightly different).

I think it might be best to look at an alternative stone. I'm now very limited as I have obtain a stone by Thursday. So I think I have to buy to from an Australian Supplier / Wholesaler who has the stock on hand. If anyone knows of any or can recommend any stones it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Yes, I felt rather bad writing that up - it's never fun to rain on someone's parade, but IMO it'd be worse to knowingly not give you our opinions after you've solicited them!

I can't help you with jewellers in Australia but there are a number of Australian PSers. What state are you in? I suggest starting a new thread and titling it something like "Help finding 0.6ct in [State] Australia, Thursday deadline" to make sure to get their attention... in the meantime you might contact http://www.hollowaydiamonds.com.au/ Garry Holloway, the owner, is one of our board experts.
 
Yssie|1417998302|3797427 said:
Yes, I felt rather bad writing that up - it's never fun to rain on someone's parade, but IMO it'd be worse to knowingly not give you our opinions after you've solicited them!

I can't help you with jewellers in Australia but there are a number of Australian PSers. I suggest starting a new thread and titling it something like "Help finding 0.6ct in Australia, Thursday deadline"... in the meantime you might contact http://www.hollowaydiamonds.com.au/ Garry Holloway, the owner, is one of our board experts.
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I'd much prefer honesty and very much appreciate it from you :)

I did speak with Holloway a while back, unfortunately the diamonds were a little out of my budget. But I did meet with them and they were very helpful indeed.

I will take your advise and start a new thread!
 
I am now down to two stones! This is it, I have to decide today, within the next 3.5 hours basically! So would appreciate any feedback I can get from you lovely people. Both stones around the same cost. One is 0.60 / SI1 / E / Excellent, the other 0.64 carat. GIA report images attached.

Stone 1 - Available from the same people making the ring - Unfortunately no images, but I can view in person this afternoon unfortunately, pretty much need to make a decision before this though :(

Stone 2 - Available from Deliqa - http://www.deliqagems.com/products/0-64-ct-round-briliiant-diamond.html

Please lend me a hand if you can! I've shot myself in the foot a bit changing my proposal date and unfortunately have to rush a little.

Thank you!!!!!

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So I've now been to see each in person. Both are eye clean and visually very nice bright stones. Under the microscope, the smaller stone has a feather inclusion which is hardly noticeable and the bigger stone has 3 twinnig wisps which are towards the centre.

The 0.64 faces up a bit larger with a much bigger table SL I'm leaning towards that. However it has medium blue fluorescence. Should I be concerned about this?

If you has to choose, which would you pick and why?

Both are within $100 of each other (the smaller stone being slightly higher).
 
There's nothing in the reports to make us recommend one over the other - both sound promising. I personally would have leaned toward the second: pic on the site looks good, diameter is notably larger, and the shallower angle combined with shorter LGFs is always an interesting look - a bright stone throughout various lighting types and big, bold white flash from those chunky pavilion mains. The fluor is nothing to worry about, unless you have strong feelings on fluorescence in general - have the vendor verify that it's actually "medium" blue.

You've seen both in-person and it sounds like you preferred the second, so that's my pick ::)
 
Thanks Yssie. I have just purchased the second stone! Very excited to see the finished product on Friday. I will post up some pictures once it's all complete :)
 
Congrats! Looking forward to pics of the finished ring :appl:
 
Have just picked up the ring and have posted some photos here -https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/halo-total-1-09-carat-including-side-stones.208880/#post-3799921#p3799921
 
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