shape
carat
color
clarity

Final advice!- about to pull trigger on this diamond!

Status
Not open for further replies. Please create a new topic or request for this thread to be opened.

nukezero

Rough_Rock
Joined
May 9, 2013
Messages
63
Hi Everyone

I placed a diamond on hold which matched my budget and specs. My budget and requirement was:

Approx. $9000+ loose stone
Round Brilliant
HCA score <2
Atleast 7.4mm+ diameter
H color or better
SI1 eye-clean or better (with no feathers!)
GIA Ex cut
Table no bigger than 57
And crown angle between 34-34.9


So I found a diamond with all that this week and it was the ONLY one that matched most if not all my requirements while maintaining my low, low budget. My girlfriend favors visual SIZE over SUPERB ideal cut... so I figured I get the basic excellent cut, H color, and dump the money on the biggest carat/dimension. Of course, I wanted to make sure that by going SI1, it is still eye-clean.

The vendor, Eternity by Yoni, has told me this diamond is eye-clean. We all know eye-clean is subjective from each vendor ranging from 12 inches to 18 inches or even as close at 6 inches of 20/20 vision.

Anyhow, the spec of the diamonds are:

GIA ex cut, vg polish, vg symmetry
H-color, SI1
1.55 Carat 7.53 x 7.56 x 4.53
Strong Blue fluorescence
$9,600
HCA score of 0.6 !!! ex ex ex ex


#1 First thing to notice is that, this is a FAIRLY large dimension of 7.50mm+ for under $10k and H color. It was darn near impossible to find a 7.50mm wide-diameter, H, color for $9600 that was excellent cut.
#2 It has proper table of 57% and 34'degrees crown angle.
#3 HCA is 0.6 as mentioned above
#4 It does florescence in strong blue, but I think I kind of like that! Makes it more white and a hint of blue is better than a hint of yellow.


I've attached pictures of aset, idealscope, H&A, and video as well. Please let me know what you guys think if this is justified for the money.

The only issues are that there are about 4 crystals near the edge/center of the table. One of then is noticeably large but it does seem to all reflect white or clear. You can see it close up in the video, is this a major deal breaker?

The vendor has confirmed however that this is still eye-clean.

I know I can probably get a 6.89mm x 6.89mm 1.20 carat H color SUPER IDEAL cut from GoG or WhiteFlash with Hearts and Arrow, but it would literally cost the same at $10 grand but it would be 20% smaller in face-up view.


I'm wondering if you guys think this level of cut and brilliance is already acceptable for the money paid. Let me know! I intend to purchase it for engagement proposal to my girlfriend!


Youtube video of diamond is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY1fgerEF1E&feature=youtu.be


Thank you everyone!!!

_418.png

_419.png

_420.png

_421.png
 
I can't really see the inclusions in the video, but I'd always have to see an SI stone in person to know whether the inclusions bothered me. But the stone looks good aside from that. I love fluorescence and think that is a bonus. I think you have met your criteria within your budget very well! (Just FYI, a .6 is not better than a 1.9 on the HCA score. All stones at 2 or under are worth considering and a lower score within that range is not more desirable than a higher one.)
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
I can't really see the inclusions in the video, but I'd always have to see an SI stone in person to know whether the inclusions bothered me. But the stone looks good aside from that. I love fluorescence and think that is a bonus. I think you have met your criteria within your budget very well! (Just FYI, a .6 is not better than a 1.9 on the HCA score. All stones at 2 or under are worth considering and a lower score within that range is not more desirable than a higher one.)

Thank you. Yes, I know a 0.6 is not better than a 1.9 per say. But it's quite odd that is so, because HCA grades ex,ex,ex,ex only for 0.6 and under, yet if you score a 1.9, you only get like 2 ex's, and rest are vg's. Wierd, huh?


The more I keep watching the video, the more I can see the strong blue florescence effect and this is making me all giddy. I was asking my girlfriend if she was okay that her rock could potentially "glow in the dark" in a bar or club. She was fine with it but asked why it would glow blue. I told her that it's harder and rarer to find very strong blue florescence :drool:


BTW, I just fixed the video. It was in portrait mode, should have been in landscape. It's got a better view now and the orientation matches the GIA certificate plot so the inclusions of crystal should be there. You can sort of see it, but it looks like un-focused water drops.
 
I can't tell if that stone is cut off center or if it's an imaging problem, but it's curious it's so consistently off-center.

By the way, just looking for a crown angle between x and y without considering pavilion angle, crown height, etc. is like saying, "I'm looking for a great sports car. It's hood better be at least four feet from front to back." There's a lot going on. If size matters more than cut, as you wrote, then it's something to consider during a return policy if you don't like it when you get it in hand.

Some people love fluorescence so it's cool that she will! I'd make sure to verify those inclusions aren't eye visible. :read:

Please remember that generally speaking, one HCA score against another, if both are under 2, doesn't mean too much. So if I see one that's 0.6 I don't get excited; it just means I set that link aside for further consideration, you see. :)

Let us know how the selection continues to go!
 
SirGuy said:
I can't tell if that stone is cut off center or if it's an imaging problem, but it's curious it's so consistently off-center.

By the way, just looking for a crown angle between x and y without considering pavilion angle, crown height, etc. is like saying, "I'm looking for a great sports car. It's hood better be at least four feet from front to back." There's a lot going on. If size matters more than cut, as you wrote, then it's something to consider during a return policy if you don't like it when you get it in hand.

Some people love fluorescence so it's cool that she will! I'd make sure to verify those inclusions aren't eye visible. :read:

Please remember that generally speaking, one HCA score against another, if both are under 2, doesn't mean too much. So if I see one that's 0.6 I don't get excited; it just means I set that link aside for further consideration, you see. :)

Let us know how the selection continues to go!

interesting you brought that up, i took a look at the video as he's tilting it and can see that the cutlet(if that's what you call it) does shift when he tilts the angle of the diamond in his tweezers. It appears that these aset, ideal scopes, were probably not taken in perfect alignment??? I thought there were threads on here that mention it was difficult for vendors to do aset images properly due to the amount of time needed to perform alignment and angles?
 
Status
Not open for further replies. Please create a new topic or request for this thread to be opened.
GET 3 FREE HCA RESULTS JOIN THE FORUM. ASK FOR HELP
Top