Feather that maybe surface reaching

[gregchang35]

I am considering an FCD and it is Si2. It is eye clean and mind clean for me. I am having problems uploading photos for the past 3 days and dont know how to show the pics. You cant see it on the still photos, however, the video shows the inclusion. And that is when i started worrying as i have read many a time on here that surface reaching feathers are something to steer away from.

I enquired about the inclusion to see if the feather is surface reaching and the vendor does not state it. The GIA report (2010) does not mention the clarity or has any plots to reflect it any inclusions... maybe this report is pre clarity reporting on FCD's.

However, the vendor has stated the following....

"A reputable jeweler setting the diamonds should have no problem whatsoever during the setting process.
The SI2 does not affect the integrity of the diamond whatsoever"

What are ppls thoughts on this?

 

[Diamond_Hawk]

Without photos or more information we will have a hard time giving advice. Can you post the GIA report # - we can tell you a bit more after having a look at the grading report.

Edited to add: I see now that you stated the report does not give the information regarding the feather - can you post a link to the video?

Often times in cases like this, since you are going by the word of the expert who has seen the stone, you just need to make sure it is someone you trust.

 

[gregchang35]

i want to add the link but it will have the vendors name on it and i cant remove it.
I can take a screen shot but it will also mean that i have to upload the photo... but there is an issue with the uploading of photos that i have been having for the past 3 days on my work ocmputer as well as home computer.

OH great! the photo attachment thing is working now.... the feather is aroudn teh 5oclock position.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Hi Greg,
In terms of assessment, I have to agree with Brian. There is no way anyone can give you an accurate assessment of a clarity characteristic unless they are physically examining the diamond.
You did mention GIA reports "pre clarity grading"
GIA does issue a report for colored diamonds that omits clarity, and always have as far as I can remember. However, the standard color diamond report has always included clarity.
Best of luck in your search!

 

[gregchang35]

Thanx Brian and David. Appreciate the feedback thus far.

 

[Rockdiamond]

You're welcome Greg!
Just curious… What is the color grade of the Emerald cut in the picture?
The variation within each of the grades is pretty fascinating. It's understandable, trying to classify these colors is very difficult.

 

[gregchang35]

FIPUP=Fancy intense purplish pink.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I can post any pics that you want, Greg. But I can't see the feather in the pics I have seen. I think they need to see the video.

 

[chrono]

Your screen shot is so small I cannot find the feather. When you do the screen shot, delete all the white space and zoom in on the stone itself.

 

[gregchang35]

HOw is this?

I wish i could delete the logo from teh video. it woudl be easeir....

 

[chrono]

Greg,
Is the inclusions on the pavilion side?

 

[gregchang35]

another angle

 

[Texas Leaguer]

Greg, How do you know the clarity is Si2 if it is not on the GIA report?

 

[gregchang35]

Greg,
Is the inclusions on the pavilion side?

this is what has been said.

I studied the emerald cut now and as previously mentioned, it is eye clean.
Even under a diamond loupe the SI2 is hardly noticeable.
Just to point out technically where the SI2 is, there is a small SI2 inclusion on the side of the stone next to the girdle and another in the top part of the stone, ever so slightly visible through a loupe.[/b]

 

[gregchang35]

another shot

 

[gregchang35]

Greg, How do you know the clarity is Si2 if it is not on the GIA report?

good question... i can only say/guess that it is based on the in-house gemologist.

 

[Texas Leaguer]

Greg,
Is the inclusions on the pavilion side?

this is what has been said.

I studied the emerald cut now and as previously mentioned, it is eye clean.
Even under a diamond loupe the SI2 is hardly noticeable.
Just to point out technically where the SI2 is, there is a small SI2 inclusion on the side of the stone next to the girdle and another in the top part of the stone, ever so slightly visible through a loupe.[/b]

Greg, from the looks of it this is an expensive diamond. Have you asked the vendor if they would supply a full GIA report? That would enable you to make better judgments on the overall quality and value of the piece.

 

[gregchang35]

Greg,
Is the inclusions on the pavilion side?

this is what has been said.

I studied the emerald cut now and as previously mentioned, it is eye clean.
Even under a diamond loupe the SI2 is hardly noticeable.
Just to point out technically where the SI2 is, there is a small SI2 inclusion on the side of the stone next to the girdle and another in the top part of the stone, ever so slightly visible through a loupe.[/b]

Greg, from the looks of it this is an expensive diamond. Have you asked the vendor if they would supply a full GIA report? That would enable you to make better judgments on the overall quality and value of the piece.

I wonder what the full GIA report is going to say. I can only guess it will be similar to ones that i have seen for colourless diamonds where it will have the plot of the inclusions and it will list the more notable inclusions at the top of the list to the bottom of the list.

 

[Texas Leaguer]

Yes, it will be informative about the nature of the inclusions and it will confirm the vendors judgment on the actual clarity grade.

 

[gregchang35]

Yes, it will be informative about the nature of the inclusions and it will confirm the vendors judgment on the actual clarity grade.

thanx, i will ask for the full report.

gotta love PS!!!

 

[Rockdiamond]

I think Bryan brings up a great point.
I find a lot of cutters using "Color Origin" reports.
Call me a skeptic, but every time I see one of these half reports, my first thought is- What is the seller afraid of me seeing on a full report?

Having said that, I have indeed purchased many stones that did have the half report. But then again, I've been grading diamonds since 1976 and have the stone in front of me to assess.

Generally speaking, if I see a diamond with a reasonable level of imperfection, I assume that the stone will come back as an I1 if submitted for clarity