Feather A Problem In This GIA SI2 Diamond Or Clouds...?

[ladyl]

Hi!

Should I stay away from this diamond...? It''s an SI2 in clarity even though it looks quite clean to me... I''ve attached a part of the GIA cert so that you guys will be able to see the inclusions. Another thing that I noticed is that under the comments in the cert, it states ''Clarity grade is based on clouds that are not shown'', what do they mean by this? Pls feel free to advice

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/3/2007 11:39:04 AM
Author:ladyl
Hi!

Should I stay away from this diamond...? It's an SI2 in clarity even though it looks quite clean to me... I've attached a part of the GIA cert so that you guys will be able to see the inclusions. Another thing that I noticed is that under the comments in the cert, it states 'Clarity grade is based on clouds that are not shown', what do they mean by this? Pls feel free to advice

I have read from an expert that if the clarity grade setter is or are clouds, then these might pose a problem with reducing performance, " clouds not shown" mean a non issue and are mentioned for the sake of completeness. You might want to check with the vendor if it is a case that the clouds in this clarity are the grade setter, if so it may be best to keep looking as clouds not being shown and an SI2 clarity grade being based on clouds as the grade maker are 2 different things.

 

[ladyl]

I'm still confused... Cos yes, the clarity grade is based on clouds, but these clouds are not shown

At least that's what I gather from the comment on the GIA Cert...
The vendor did ask if I would like them to bring it in for further IS, pics, sarin etc, the diamond's cut grade is stated as Excellent and seems to score quite well with the HCA...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/3/2007 12:17:19 PM
Author: ladyl

I'm still confused... Cos yes, the clarity grade is based on clouds, but these clouds are not shown

At least that's what I gather from the comment on the GIA Cert...
The vendor did ask if I would like them to bring it in for further IS, pics, sarin etc, the diamond's cut grade is stated as Excellent and seems to score quite well with the HCA...

Normally it says under the comments section " clouds not shown" which is different to clouds being the actual grade setter - that they are what makes the diamond an SI2.

Bascially - clouds not shown = non issue.

clouds which set the clarity grade = could be an issue.

As the clarity plot you have posted looks very clean for an SI2 from what I can see, then I would suspect that clouds are the grade maker and might possibly be an issue.

Ask the vendor if it is clouds which are the grade setter and are what make this diamond an SI2, or whether it is just a case of the often seen comment of " clouds not shown" in the comments section. Make sure you are clear whether the clouds are what has determined the clarity or not in this instance and take your vendor's advice as to whether they are an issue or not, as they will be able to tell you for sure.

 

[ladyl]

Thanks Lorelei! I will check with the vendor. Here''s the comments on the cert...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/3/2007 12:49:41 PM
Author: ladyl
Thanks Lorelei! I will check with the vendor. Here''s the comments on the cert...

Thanks for that! I have been looking in the archives for more info and it seems that a diamond such as this needs careful evaluation as the clouds may or may not reduce performance, so your vendor should be able to advise you as to whether this diamond is a yay or nay!

 

[ladyl]

Thanks! Actually when I 1st saw the cert I thought that the SI2 was due to the feather at the girdle... Now I know that I have one more thing to worry about - the cloud.

 

[diagem]

Date: 8/3/2007 12:34:14 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 8/3/2007 12:17:19 PM
Author: ladyl

I''m still confused... Cos yes, the clarity grade is based on clouds, but these clouds are not shown

At least that''s what I gather from the comment on the GIA Cert...
The vendor did ask if I would like them to bring it in for further IS, pics, sarin etc, the diamond''s cut grade is stated as Excellent and seems to score quite well with the HCA...

Normally it says under the comments section '' clouds not shown'' which is different to clouds being the actual grade setter - that they are what makes the diamond an SI2.

Bascially - clouds not shown = non issue.

clouds which set the clarity grade = could be an issue. Correct..., the whole Diamond could be cloudy.

As the clarity plot you have posted looks very clean for an SI2 from what I can see, then I would suspect that clouds are the grade maker and might possibly be an issue. Like my comment above..., the whole Diamond could be cloudy..., this is a classic example of a must see Diamond!!!

Ask the vendor if it is clouds which are the grade setter and are what make this diamond an SI2, or whether it is just a case of the often seen comment of '' clouds not shown'' in the comments section. Make sure you are clear whether the clouds are what has determined the clarity or not in this instance and take your vendor''s advice as to whether they are an issue or not, as they will be able to tell you for sure.

 

[belle]

sounds scary! do not think that you can judge a stone by how clean the plot is, ESPECIALLY if the clarity grade making clouds are not shown!

 

[diagem]

Date: 8/3/2007 2:18:34 PM
Author: belle
sounds scary! do not think that you can judge a stone by how clean the plot is, ESPECIALLY if the clarity grade making clouds are not shown!

If the plot is marked correctly..., then there is no way it would be graded SI2...
But unfortunately..., I dont think GIA gemologist do good jobs on marking plots! They usually mess up on choosing the right plot to the actual faceting of the Diamonds in subject (especialy fancy shapes).

But I have never seen a plot marked as a "cloudy" Diamond. and based on the information we are seeing... Lorelei is right on the point.
I just called it out loud!!! It seems to me the Diamond is an SI2 based on the cloud!!!