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nycmb404

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Hi All,

I am looking for some feedback on a stone. It''s GIA Certified Round Brilliant, 6.95 x 6.99 x 4.29 mm

1.29 Carat
F Color
SI1 Clarity (small cloud and crystal toward one side of the table)
Excellent Cut, Polist, and Symmetry.
No Flourescence.

The table is 58%, and then it says medium and slightly thick (faceted).

Price quoted was $7100.

Any thoughts?

Thank you!
 
Date: 11/6/2009 4:32:41 PM
Author:nycmb404
Hi All,

I am looking for some feedback on a stone. It's GIA Certified Round Brilliant, 6.95 x 6.99 x 4.29 mm

1.29 Carat
F Color
SI1 Clarity (small cloud and crystal toward one side of the table)
Excellent Cut, Polist, and Symmetry.
No Flourescence.

The table is 58%, and then it says medium and slightly thick (faceted). This is the girdle thickness.

Price quoted was $7100.

Any thoughts?

Thank you!
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Hi nyc

Can you either post the report number so we can look up the info needed or the following info please?

depth%
crown and pavilion angles
star and lower girdle facet percentages

Is the diamond for sale online and do you know if it is eyeclean to your standards?
 
We need more information. Depth, crown angle, and pavillion angle are essential, star and lower half percentage would be useful, as well. If you are unsure as to which numbers are which, we can look it up if you post the GIA report number.
 
Sure! It''s GIA 2101972078

Thanks!
 
Date: 11/6/2009 4:38:09 PM
Author: nycmb404
Sure! It's GIA 2101972078

Thanks!
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Here we go

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2101972078&weight=1.29

Unfortunately this diamond is what we call a steep deep, it will very likely show light leakage which you don't want. You could request an Idealscope image for this diamond if it is for sale online but I would think the image would show leakage. Do you have any others in mind?
 
It's a slightly steep-deep stone - a very common set of proportions these days (see a recent thread which I started).
Many on here don't like them because of a slightly dark table when viewed from directly above, but they're not bad stones. Excellent polish and symmetry seems to help the steep deeps.

Your proportions:
Depth: 61.5
Table: 58
Crown: 35.5' (15.0%)
Star: 50%
Pavilion: 41.0' (43.0%)
Lower half: 80%
Girdle: Med-Sl.thk, facted 3.5%
Culet: none
Polish: ex
Symmetry: ex
 
Ditto Lorelei.
 
Thanks for the quick feedback so far. It''s for sale at a jeweler who was recommended to me in new york city. I checked out a few other stones, but I don''t have the GIA numbers. I''ll report back once I get them.
 
Any opinions On Gia number 6117001015? Price quoted was $6700 at same jeweler. If this has the same issue as the one
above, can you let me know what I should be looking for to avoid the deep/steep problem? Thank you again.
 
Date: 11/7/2009 1:55:17 PM
Author: nycmb404
Any opinions On Gia number 6117001015? Price quoted was $6700 at same jeweler. If this has the same issue as the one
above, can you let me know what I should be looking for to avoid the deep/steep problem? Thank you again.
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Can you let us know the carat weight please so we can look it up?
 
Sorry about that . It''s 1.25 carat.
 
I saw both, but that was before I learned about the issue here. I''ll go back to compare the two. Is one more preferable than
the other, and with those prices?
 
Date: 11/7/2009 3:40:31 PM
Author: nycmb404
I saw both, but that was before I learned about the issue here. I''ll go back to compare the two. Is one more preferable than
the other, and with those prices?
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No, they could both show light leakage and as to how much, no way to tell without images.
 
#2 has slightly better numbers, depending on the rounding/averaging down by GIA. But since you can see both, compare them side by side out of jewelry store lighting, and see which one you like better.
 
Ok if you can see both, here is what to look for. Take each diamond away from any bright store lighting, what you are looking for is a dark ring around the table " ring of death" which is light leakage, or any dull dark patches around the table of the diamond or on the top area. Try to look for this in as many different lighting conditions as possible. See which looks best but if you aren't happy keep looking.

You could also buy an Idealscope, that would instantly show you light leakage where present.
 
HI everyone!
nycmb404, I''m going to offer an alternative viewpoint here.
I have no doubt Lorelei and Jet are giving you what they consider to be valid advice.
But you are looking at the diamonds- and are in a far better position to tell US what looks good to you.
Although there are some people here who do not like the combination of angles on the diamonds ( known here as steep /deep) not everyone will dislike such stones. In fact, some may actually prefer them.
GIA''s cut grade is based, in part, on many thousands of human observations. If you''re looking at a stone graded EX cut grade by GIA, most knowledgeable dealers would consider it a very well cut diamond. My suggestion is to use your eyes before letting the opinions of others steer you.
What is termed "ring of death" here might be seen as an attractive contrast to others.
It''s possible you''ll share the opinion voiced in this thread, but maybe not.

Did you like the stones you saw?

Stones in the 1.25 range are also far more difficult to find compared to 1.00-1.10
 
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