ERD consultation fee??!
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CrookedRock
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I have been speaking with Mark for over a week now trying to find what seems to be a stone that doesn''t want to be found
and he has not mentioned a fee of any sort. I think that fee is if you would like to literally have your hand held and every little thing explained. He knows us Ps''ers come in knowing what we are wanting and looking for. Basically, he hasn''t brought it up and neither have we, so no fee...
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Yes...not quite "officially" searching...but doing the preliminary work. I am interested in a Brilliant Cushion- I love the chunky facets too!! Size will be somewhere in the 2-2.5 range...I am starting to lean a little more towards the more square cushion, I think...but I seem to literally change my mind everyday!
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I understand changing your mind. I srarted out wanting a radiant... go figure! Yup cushion Brilliant is what we are lusting after too, I happen to like them slightly more rectangular though. I seem to be getting the same response from most people, which is: they are hard to come by, but with some leg work it can be done. If you are in or close to NYC it should be a lot easier for you. He was able to find us one stone. Kinda crazy! Any Ideas on who will set it for you? My bf mentioned when he spoke with mark and mentioned that Leon would be doing the ring, it was then he took him serious. who knows... But i would not count out GOG either, they are great there as well! If you haven''t checked out their cushion videos you def should!
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Hey MrsS! here''s where you can find that. http://engagementringsdirect.com/consulting.php
B/c of you I keep going back to the Pearlmans site to see if there are any more cushions to be had... but there aren''t!
I just adore your ring! Congrats!
B/c of you I keep going back to the Pearlmans site to see if there are any more cushions to be had... but there aren''t!
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Date: 2/21/2008 8:17:39 AM
Author: CrookedRock
Hey MrsS! here''s where you can find that. http://engagementringsdirect.com/consulting.php
B/c of you I keep going back to the Pearlmans site to see if there are any more cushions to be had... but there aren''t!I just adore your ring! Congrats!
thanks crookedrock. I think the consult fee would be available to someone who wants the step by step tutorial, not someone who is just coming in already armed with knowledge and ready to go. that''s my interpretation anyway
thanks for the sweet remarks on my ring, i love it too and can''t wait for it to be back. I too am surprised that more cushions aren''t there, tons of choices for asscher lovers though. It was my understanding that a few of the split crown cushions were going to be coming so if you really are interested you might give them a call and at least ask??
CrookeRock- We are in Boston- so a quick train ride away from NYC...with this type of proximity, you have to check it out in person. As far as setting, I am definetly interested in having Leon Mege design a piece...likely a micro pave halo...we will see.
Good luck on your ring search!! Has Mark been sending you pics or anything? I was pretty impressed with GOG wesbite and tutorials- but it seems that Mark (based on what I have read here) may be able to swing a better deal due to his longstanding relationships...Not certain, but seems to be the word on the street...
Good luck on your ring search!! Has Mark been sending you pics or anything? I was pretty impressed with GOG wesbite and tutorials- but it seems that Mark (based on what I have read here) may be able to swing a better deal due to his longstanding relationships...Not certain, but seems to be the word on the street...
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MArk was able to only find us one stone. He did send a pic, and we requested a few more which we should be getting today. The price was good... I would just like more options espicially if I am flying all the way there. He really is great to talk to though, and we will be in NYC in about 2 weeks to make a decision, and his stone is def in the running. I''ll keep you guys posted on what we end up with. Hopefully your search will be more fruitful than ours, and I think it will be b/c that is a much easier size to find. I am sure it will be perfect in the end no matter if it comes from Mark or GOG.
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I think you are totally right, the fee is for people who are starting from scratch, certainly not us!Date: 2/21/2008 8:24:33 AM
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Date: 2/21/2008 8:17:39 AM
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Hey MrsS! here''s where you can find that. http://engagementringsdirect.com/consulting.php
B/c of you I keep going back to the Pearlmans site to see if there are any more cushions to be had... but there aren''t!I just adore your ring! Congrats!
thanks crookedrock. I think the consult fee would be available to someone who wants the step by step tutorial, not someone who is just coming in already armed with knowledge and ready to go. that''s my interpretation anyway
thanks for the sweet remarks on my ring, i love it too and can''t wait for it to be back. I too am surprised that more cushions aren''t there, tons of choices for asscher lovers though. It was my understanding that a few of the split crown cushions were going to be coming so if you really are interested you might give them a call and at least ask??
I think I might just call them up and see if they have any cushions hiding in the back or are expecting any. I will let you know what I come up with.
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Wait... You didn''t know that you get charged a consultation fee every time you post a question here on PS? Kidding. I''m kidding. But I think I just heard a loud thump, that was probably Andre hitting the floor
I have no idea what the consultation fee may be for, but it certainly is an interesting concept.
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Hi Cali,
I would just like to clarify the word on the street and some other questions I noted in other threads regarding our cushions (or any shape we feature for that matter).
I can get any diamond at the same price as any vendor can off of the "virtual list" and sell it at the same price that any vendor sells it for. We also have access to many diamonds that you do not see on the "virtual inventory" found on PS and other websites and broker the diamonds.
The cushions you see featured on our website are diamonds that are physically here in our inventory and are not diamonds you will find on a "virtual inventory". Most diamonds you see posted online are not owned by the company featuring them. They are at the various manufacturers or cutting houses around the country. The diamonds that are in my inventory I personally hand select and invest considerable capital & time callling in cushions and running optical examinations to ensure we are purchasing only those cushions that represent an extremely small fraction of cushions on the market which exhibit the finest optics you will find in a cushion. Our clients can attest to my selectivity and value we offer in relation to the services we perform for the value.
For clarification we can and do broker diamonds just like most vendors do on the Internet. Brokering a diamond involves very little service and expense which is relfected in the prices you will see and find on the Internet.
For example if the extent of our exam is faxing or emailing a lab report then the investment on our end is nil and you will get the absolute cheapest price you can find on the Internet for any given diamond.
If we are going to incur expense shipping it in, examining it, taking a photo and saying yep ... its a honey or a dud and I don't have to hire the employ of my staff to publish web pages, shoot video comparisons etc. this adds expense though not that much more beyond shipping.
Our full services is when I do employ the hire of my staff and run reports, scans, (we employ every technology under the sun plus include hard copies of it all in an Appraisal Report as well), this adds more expense and value becuase it provides what we consider the most important element to the internet purchase. Peace of mind. I will only do this with diamonds that we deem worthy of bearing my signature and will back with our lifetime policies.
Bottom line ... you get what you pay for.
There are however instances where you can have two diamonds that have similar stats yet be hundreds or thouands of dollars different in price. The only way to know if one is a true value or if its a pooper for reasons not known on the GIA Report is by a physical examination. A gemological evaluation by an experienced gemologist can usually demonstrate why the 2 diamonds are valued so differently. Again these are things that a broker simply can not do.
Hope that helps.
I would just like to clarify the word on the street and some other questions I noted in other threads regarding our cushions (or any shape we feature for that matter).
I can get any diamond at the same price as any vendor can off of the "virtual list" and sell it at the same price that any vendor sells it for. We also have access to many diamonds that you do not see on the "virtual inventory" found on PS and other websites and broker the diamonds.
The cushions you see featured on our website are diamonds that are physically here in our inventory and are not diamonds you will find on a "virtual inventory". Most diamonds you see posted online are not owned by the company featuring them. They are at the various manufacturers or cutting houses around the country. The diamonds that are in my inventory I personally hand select and invest considerable capital & time callling in cushions and running optical examinations to ensure we are purchasing only those cushions that represent an extremely small fraction of cushions on the market which exhibit the finest optics you will find in a cushion. Our clients can attest to my selectivity and value we offer in relation to the services we perform for the value.
For clarification we can and do broker diamonds just like most vendors do on the Internet. Brokering a diamond involves very little service and expense which is relfected in the prices you will see and find on the Internet.
For example if the extent of our exam is faxing or emailing a lab report then the investment on our end is nil and you will get the absolute cheapest price you can find on the Internet for any given diamond.
If we are going to incur expense shipping it in, examining it, taking a photo and saying yep ... its a honey or a dud and I don't have to hire the employ of my staff to publish web pages, shoot video comparisons etc. this adds expense though not that much more beyond shipping.
Our full services is when I do employ the hire of my staff and run reports, scans, (we employ every technology under the sun plus include hard copies of it all in an Appraisal Report as well), this adds more expense and value becuase it provides what we consider the most important element to the internet purchase. Peace of mind. I will only do this with diamonds that we deem worthy of bearing my signature and will back with our lifetime policies.
Bottom line ... you get what you pay for.
There are however instances where you can have two diamonds that have similar stats yet be hundreds or thouands of dollars different in price. The only way to know if one is a true value or if its a pooper for reasons not known on the GIA Report is by a physical examination. A gemological evaluation by an experienced gemologist can usually demonstrate why the 2 diamonds are valued so differently. Again these are things that a broker simply can not do.
Hope that helps.
Hey Thanks for the clarification Rhino! Being somewhat of a newbie (longtime lurker) I appreciate the insight, and I am glad that you advised me- because I really like your upgrade policy! I always thought that the company name "affliated" with the diamond meant that it was sort of "theirs"...learn something new everyday...
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I have heard that some B&M''s have a consultation fee ... If they discuss with you what you are looking for and they source or find something for you that fits the specified specs and you decide not to go with it, they may charge you a consultation fee just due to the sheer time & expense involved with this effort. If you ultimately make your purchase with them, I don''t believe that they charge ... This may be the case with ERD ... not sure.
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Hi Cali, I just wanted to clarify the consultation fee with you. I happened to speak with Mark today and he told me that he has never actually charged it and that he should take it off his site, but he just hasn't as of yet. Like MrsS and I figured, it was originally meant for people with no knowledge about what they are looking for. But in no way shape or form will he charge you if you contact him. Just wanted to clear that up.
Rhino, I'm glad you stopped by to clarify where you stand, I think that is very helpful to many people here. Thank you! You offer an invaluable service with those videos, and we all appreciate it.
Cali as for my search... I am hoping to find something in the 3-4 ct range, and we will eventually. And I will def be seeing Leon while up there, hopefully with the stone in my posession. I contacted him a while back and tried to get him to design me something without even having the stone... Yah I tend to do things slightly backwards, but oh well...
Crooked- Thanks for the clarification...I have corresponded with Gary (mark''s colleague) and they were just so helpful that it was hard to imagine them charging a fee? 3-4 carats! Can''t wait to see what you end up with, and a Leon setting, girl...lol!
Sort of off topic now, what are you thinking that you want to do with your cushion (setting wise)...I have really been going back and forth on the halo thing...I imagine that if I were to go into the 3 carat range, I wouldn''t get a halo just in order showcase the diamond- but I change my mind every 5 minutes anyway...Good luck on your search!!
Sort of off topic now, what are you thinking that you want to do with your cushion (setting wise)...I have really been going back and forth on the halo thing...I imagine that if I were to go into the 3 carat range, I wouldn''t get a halo just in order showcase the diamond- but I change my mind every 5 minutes anyway...Good luck on your search!!
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Hi Calil,
Yes ... it is a common misperception on the net. Folks start figuring things out once they start seeing the same diamond show up at different sites. What is perhaps the most annoying are diamonds that receive in house grades from places that don''t even lay eyes on the stone. Ie. I see "ideal princess cuts" or "ideal fill in the blank" all over the place that have specs I generally wouldn''t touch with a 10 foot pole! Not everyone''s standards are the same. I am amazed at how some are marketed.
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HMMM... That''s the golden question! I love style r782 on Leon''s site, I take that back... I love all of them, but I always end up back at that particular one... I really want to pave the whole thing all the way around, so I am hoping that the insert he has in that ring for sizing purposes will be incorporated into whatever I end up with. AS for a halo, I tend to agree that these cushions have no problem standing alone, but then again I really love a tiny halo. HArd to explain, but I prefer when the diamond sits higher than the halo and the halo is just barely visible. Look at r319 and r949. On the other end of the spectrum his double claw prongs are to die for... Too many choices!
My thought at this moment is to take r782, make its "halo" slightly more visibe from the top the thicken the bottom band part by 50%. (leave the little arms/prongs the way they are) Does that make any sense??
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